🇮🇷 Iran & the USA Relationship

[Saif]

Trump discusses US wiping Iran off face of earth
Agence France-Presse . Washington 26 July, 2024, 23:23

Donald Trump

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Thursday invoked the annihilation of US adversary Iran in a social media post reminiscent of his most incendiary outbursts while in the White House.

'If they do 'assassinate president Trump,' which is always a possibility, I hope that America obliterates Iran, wipes it off the face of the Earth — If that does not happen, American Leaders will be considered gutless cowards!' he wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social.

Trump made the remarks alongside a brief video of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bringing up alleged Iranian plots against Trump in his address to the US Congress on Wednesday.

US media reported last week that the US Secret Service had increased security for Trump weeks ago after authorities learned of an Iranian plot to kill him, although it was not linked to the recent attempt on his life in which a 20-year-old American fired shots during a campaign rally.

CNN reported that US authorities received intelligence from a human source on a plan by Tehran targeting the former president, causing protection to be boosted for Trump. Other US outlets also reported the plot.

But it was not connected to the campaign shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, in which gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks opened fire, lightly wounding Trump and killing a rally attendee, they said.

Relations between Washington and Iran have long been strained and reached a breaking point as Tehran sought revenge for the 2020 killing of Revolutionary Guards commander Qasem Soleimani, ordered by Trump when he was president.

The US National Security Council said it had been 'tracking Iranian threats against former Trump administration officials for years.'

Trump's post recalled a controversial episode in 2019 when, as president, he threatened the 'obliteration' of Iran if the country carried out an attack on 'anything American.'

That confrontation came after Iranian officials said the path to diplomacy between the two nations was permanently closed after Trump's new round of sanctions Monday.

As president, he also threatened North Korea with 'fire and fury like the world has never seen,' although he later became friends with the isolated country's dictator, Kim Jong Un, and often referred to their 'love'.​

 

[Saif]

US announces new Mideast military deployments in warning to Iran

"Should Iran, its partners, or its proxies use this moment to target American personnel or interests in the region, the United States will take every measure necessary to defend our people," Pentagon spokesman Major General Pat Ryder said in a statement

www.thedailystar.net

US announces new Mideast military deployments in warning to Iran

A B-52 Stratofortress prepares for refuelling over Afghanistan in this undated handout photo. File photo: Reuters

The United States announced Friday the deployment of additional military assets to the Middle East, including ballistic missile defense destroyers and long-range B-52 bomber aircraft, serving as a warning to Iran as it and Israel trade tit-for-tat strikes.

"Should Iran, its partners, or its proxies use this moment to target American personnel or interests in the region, the United States will take every measure necessary to defend our people," Pentagon spokesman Major General Pat Ryder said in a statement.

The additional resources build on previous US defense deployments to the Middle East in support of Israel, including a THAAD missile defense system deployed to the country late last month, operated by American troops on the ground.

The new forces "will begin to arrive in coming months," Ryder said.

Israel launched significant strikes against Iran on October 26, devastating military infrastructure to the Islamic republic while steering clear of critical nuclear and oil sites.

Iran has carried out two major attacks against Israel in 2024 -- one in April after a strike on its consulate in Damascus that was blamed on Israel, and another in October that Tehran said was in response to the assassination of leaders of armed groups it backs in the Middle East.

Observers warn the continued military operations between the regional rivals could escalate further.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran already has ICBMs and the nukes are a twist or a few turns of the screws away.

Iran also has the most reliable/ proven and battle tested missiles and drones on this planet and possesses them in astounding varieties and numbers.

I would place Iran right after the US in military capability. Anybody not understanding the gravity of this statement needs to come to grips with this reality.

Evidently…….UK, France, Russia and even China are chutiya militaries in front of Iran. They got nothing!

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran already has ICBMs and the nukes are a twist or a few turns of the screws away.

Iran also has the most reliable/ proven and battle tested missiles and drones on this planet and possesses them in astounding varieties and numbers.

I would place Iran right after the US in military capability. Anybody not understanding the gravity of this statement needs to come to grips with this reality.

Evidently…….UK, France, Russia and even China are chutiya militaries in front of Iran. They got nothing!

............

 

[Sharma Ji]

you setting yourself up for major disappointment and dhoka, proper KLPD, bhai

should xhit ever hit the fan

still few days till US elections

I think its very likely to be a Trump presidency again, fir dekho kya hota hai.. banda unpredictable hai

 

[Lulldapull]

you setting yourself up for major disappointment and dhoka, proper KLPD, bhai

should xhit ever hit the fan

still few days till US elections

I think its very likely to be a Trump presidency again, fir dekho kya hota hai.. banda unpredictable hai

He got pounded at Al-Assad base after he killed Soleimani. Didn’t even have the guts to retaliate.

Iran fukked that whole base up with a huge missile attack and live filmed the entire scene from beginning to end via its drone.

 

[Sharma Ji]

He got pounded at Al-Assad base after he killed Soleimani. Didn’t even have the guts to retaliate.

Iran fukked that whole base up with a huge missile attack and live filmed the entire scene from beginning to end via its drone.

all resulted in minor injuries and hearing concussions etc for the troops there, how many died ?
besides, that was in Iraq.. Iranian proxies engaged the US military on a daily basis there all through the war too, and firefights in Syria.. and they took some sailors hostage during Obama's time too.

none of these instances were big victories.

do din wait kar, dekho Trump kya karta hai.. he's not been mentioning much foreign policy stuff apart from he'll stop the war. He live now:

 

[Lulldapull]

all resulted in minor injuries and hearing concussions etc for the troops there, how many died ?
besides, that was in Iraq.. Iranian proxies engaged the US military on a daily basis there all through the war too, and firefights in Syria.. and they took some sailors hostage during Obama's time too.

none of these instances were big victories.

do din wait kar, dekho Trump kya karta hai.. he's not been mentioning much foreign policy stuff apart from he'll stop the war. He live now:

US can’t do anything because they don’t wanna get involved at all.

It was the same isstory in Afghanistan bhai…..tang aaa kar bhaag gya US.

US interest is waning and we all can see it. The regular hillbilla wouldn’t give two fukks about Al-Yahuda without the trillion dollar campaigns by the Jewish lobbies.

Who will win here?

A nation standing on its own? For 3000 years?

Or a lower caste chutiya clinging onto mama US’s skirt for survival?

I believe you know the answer.

PS. The UK fukked off too after getting tired of it all. Patience has a limit bhai.

 

[Sharma Ji]

US can’t do anything because they don’t wanna get involved at all.

It was the same isstory in Afghanistan bhai…..tang aaa kar bhaag gya US.

US interest is waning and we all can see it. The regular hillbilla wouldn’t give two fukks about Al-Yahuda without the trillion dollar campaigns by the Jewish lobbies.

Who will win here?

A nation standing on its own? For 3000 years?

Or a lower caste chutiya clinging onto mama US’s skirt for survival?

I believe you know the answer.

PS. The UK fukked off too after getting tired of it all. Patience has a limit bhai.

Afghanistan they should have left after taking out Bin Laden, and what a shameful sloppy withdrawal.

Bhot flavours k anti-Yahuda camps hain in the US:

pro musalmand far left commie democracts

real far right, Adolf bhakts

then there's also evangelical Christies, pro Ijrael.. they waiting on the rapture and second coming of their Yeshu

and neo-con war hawks, who view Israel as their outpost in a very important region.. because oil, this lot is eyeing Iran's massive rejervs.

and a small Iranian diaspora, well integrated into the murrican' western life there but hate the Ayatullah run place it is now.

there's all sorts, really.

Jo bhi hai, they're NOT going to abandon the Jew, this is up until either of the dominant far left/right guys take over, but their respective parties, or the uniparty deep state will not let that come to be.

Basically, Israel will continue to be phull sapported by them, inko nahi abandon karega JewAssAay.

and bhai, Iran have not been in a proper hot war with the west ever, or so far at least.

I hope it doesn't ever happen.. if they got a small Shia cresent and some allies/proxies, the Gulfie Sunni A-rabs DWARF them with west supplied latest ek se ek, ekdum tanatan full of the latest miltri gadgets, planes.. massive USN, USAF presence in the region too.

Tabhi to keh ra hu, khuda na khasta.. koi big time combined powers vs Iran and proxies jung na chhid jaye wahan.

They're not gonna make it, bro.. I'm sorry.

ash to ash, dust to dust
if radiation doesn't get us
inflation must

apun ko peace, shanti, aman mangta, boss..

 

[Lulldapull]

Afghanistan they should have left after taking out Bin Laden, and what a shameful sloppy withdrawal.

Bhot flavours k anti-Yahuda camps hain in the US:

pro musalmand far left commie democracts

real far right, Adolf bhakts

then there's also evangelical Christies, pro Ijrael.. they waiting on the rapture and second coming of their Yeshu

and neo-con war hawks, who view Israel as their outpost in a very important region.. because oil, this lot is eyeing Iran's massive rejervs.

and a small Iranian diaspora, well integrated into the murrican' western life there but hate the Ayatullah run place it is now.

there's all sorts, really.

Jo bhi hai, they're NOT going to abandon the Jew, this is up until either of the dominant far left/right guys take over, but their respective parties, or the uniparty deep state will not let that come to be.

Basically, Israel will continue to be phull sapported by them, inko nahi abandon karega JewAssAay.

and bhai, Iran have not been in a proper hot war with the west ever, or so far at least.

I hope it doesn't ever happen.. if they got a small Shia cresent and some allies/proxies, the Gulfie Sunni A-rabs DWARF them with west supplied latest ek se ek, ekdum tanatan full of the latest miltri gadgets, planes.. massive USN, USAF presence in the region too.

Tabhi to keh ra hu, khuda na khasta.. koi big time combined powers vs Iran and proxies jung na chhid jaye wahan.

They're not gonna make it, bro.. I'm sorry.

ash to ash, dust to dust
if radiation doesn't get us
inflation must

apun ko peace, shanti, aman mangta, boss..

Bhai to be frank……there is nobody the west can prop up in the region to fight Iran anymore.

There is nobody left.

Sawdi Judea totally humbled. GCC know their place, Iran can demolish them all within hours. We saw it during the coordinated attack on Khurais/ Abqaiq. All western defenses were beaten by the iranis.

Araam say lay lee thee Iran nay US aur Sawdi key…..

Pakistan has been watching this gradual erosion of US power in the region.

 

[Vsdoc]

Pakistan has been watching this gradual erosion of US power in the region. You can see it on our other forum now just how quiet/ powerless everyone is watching Iran dismantle the whole region

Thats because they hate Iran more and genuinely than the quasi detached academic lip service they pay to the Israel hatred.

The bruder king tut, his rescue attack dog, and the scattered European and Aussie henchmen ...

 

[Sharma Ji]

Bhai to be frank……there is nobody the west can prop up in the region to fight Iran anymore.

There is nobody left.

Sawdi Judea totally humbled. GCC know their place, Iran can demolish them all within hours. We saw it during the coordinated attack on Khurais/ Abqaiq. All western defenses were beaten by the iranis.

Araam say lay lee thee Iran nay US aur Sawdi key…..

Pakistan has been watching this gradual erosion of US power in the region.

2 din aur ki baat hai, we will all (hopefully) get klartee on US chunaavs

Trump vs Chudail .. we'll all have to re-calibrate our projections once we get that out the way.

cliffhanger sa chal raha, nice 1

 

[Krishna with Flute]

US election is round the corner. If Trump wins, Russia Ukraine war will stop. There will be more sanction/ duty on Chinese goods. US Russia relations will Improve so as India US relations. However, Iran US relation will further degrade and there will be a possibility in which Israel may attack Iranian Nuke Installation.

 

[Vsdoc]

US election is round the corner. If Trump wins, Russia Ukraine war will stop. There will be more sanction/ duty on Chinese goods. US Russia relations will Improve so as India US relations. However, Iran US relation will further degrade and there will be a possibility in which Israel may attack Iranian Nuke Installation.

Then there will be all out war between Iran and Israel.

And that war will have the West facing off versus Russia, and a much more open China, just as in Ukraine.

No good deed is left unrewarded .

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Then there will be all out war between Iran and Israel.

And that war will have the West facing off versus Russia, and a much more open China, just as in Ukraine.

No good deed is left unrewarded .

All-out war like Russia and Ukraine is not possible as both the countries are geographically separated by a big distance. Iran fired about 300 missiles on Israel causing almost no damage. Once missile stock is exhausted Iran will have no mean to attack Israel. Russia is short of weapons and tries to import them from other country so Russia will not be able to help Iran. Israeli planes can reach Iran like we saw in recent attack. However, no Iranian plane reach Israel as it lacks the capability, and it has to cross hostile Arab countries to reach Israel. So, there is a little possibility that Iran can effectively attack Israel. Moreover, Israel shall be protected by US AC battle group and BMD like THAAD. So if war happens, Israel will be left with little support. It cannot survive with its limited capability against Israel.

However, what will prevent Israel to go all out is that actual Irani People are not as anti-Israel as its government is. Probably, Israel may assassinate Ayatollah and may try to establish a democratic government.

 

[Vsdoc]

All-out war like Russia and Ukraine is not possible as both the countries are geographically separated by a big distance. Iran fired about 300 missiles on Israel causing almost no damage. Once missile stock is exhausted Iran will have no mean to attack Israel. Russia is short of weapons and tries to import them from other country so Russia will not be able to help Iran. Israeli planes can reach Iran like we saw in recent attack. However, no Iranian plane reach Israel as it lacks the capability, and it has to cross hostile Arab countries to reach Israel. So, there is a little possibility that Iran can effectively attack Israel. Moreover, Israel shall be protected by US AC battle group and BMD like THAAD. So if war happens, Israel will be left with little support. It cannot survive with its limited capability against Israel.

However, what will prevent Israel to go all out is that actual Irani People are not as anti-Israel as its government is. Probably, Israel may assassinate Ayatollah and may try to establish a democratic government.

Iranians see the Jews as a junior, inferior race.

As they see all Semites, notably the Arabs.

That is the brutal unvarnished politically incorrect truth.

Nothing will unite disgruntled Iranians quicker and more effectively than an attack on their land.

The Ayatollahs would pray to all that is holy to them that Israel actually crosses that line.

Iran literally controls all militia groups surrounding Israel, which in reality is an embattled tiny sliver of land with fewer people than lesser metropolitan proper Mumbai or New Delhi to defend it. 4.5 million males. All ages. Not just military age.

That is it!

Distance between Israel and Iran works in Iran's favour. With their asymmetric force projection. Not Israel's.

Russia is chomping at the bit to pay the US back for Ukraine. Most of the now direct Russia state controlled Wagner group is now deployed in Africa and the Middle East.

China has a direct interest in ensuring their oil spigots do not run dry.

Their non US controlled oil spigots.

An attack on Iran will very quickly snowball into an all out war.

 

[Vsdoc]

Iranians see the Jews as a junior, inferior race.

With a giant unpaid debt.

 

[Lulldapull]

Iranians see the Jews as a junior, inferior race.

As they see all Semites, notably the Arabs.

That is the brutal unvarnished politically incorrect truth.

Nothing will unite disgruntled Iranians quicker and more effectively than an attack on their land.

The Ayatollahs would pray to all that is holy to them that Israel actually crosses that line.

Iran literally controls all militia groups surrounding Israel, which in reality is an embattled tiny sliver of land with fewer people than lesser metropolitan proper Mumbai or New Delhi to defend it. 4.5 million males. All ages. Not just military age.

That is it!

Distance between Israel and Iran works in Iran's favour. With their asymmetric force projection. Not Israel's.

Russia is chomping at the bit to pay the US back for Ukraine. Most of the now direct Russia state controlled Wagner group is now deployed in Africa and the Middle East.

China has a direct interest in ensuring their oil spigots do not run dry.

Their non US controlled oil spigots.

An attack on Iran will very quickly snowball into an all out war.

Only he believes that Irans shower of hypersonic missiles and drones are all duds and that daily Irani pitthu are not killing IDF soldiers and civies left n right. My estimate is that Irans pitthu kill 10 IDF soldiers daily and injure an equal number.

 

[Vsdoc]

Only he believes that Irans shower of hypersonic missiles and drones are all duds and that daily Irani pitthu are not killing IDF soldiers and civies left n right. My estimate is that Irans pitthu kill 10 IDF soldiers daily and injure an equal number.

To further put things into perspective.

In an all out war.

A meatgrinder proper.

Ukraine is nearing 1 million dead already.

And Ukraine is a huge country.

Between ONLY the military fighting grade numbers of the Hezbollah, the Hamas and the Houthis, the Israelis are facing an army upwards of 300,000 ... in actuality, closer to half a million pairs of boots ....

 

[Lulldapull]

To further put things into perspective.

In an all out war.

A meatgrinder proper.

Ukraine is nearing 1 million dead already.

And Ukraine is a huge country.

Between ONLY the military fighting grade numbers of the Hezbollah, the Hamas and the Houthis, the Israelis are facing an army upwards of 300,000 ... in actuality, closer to half a million pairs of boots ....

It’s so easy for Iran to churn this meat grinder doc……Iran just throws people in it. They’ve got IRGC specialists sitting in the Donbas/ Lughansk now directing the entire drone and ballistic/ cruise missile onslaught on NATO.

Israel is a small potato for Iran and it’s totally dependent upon the US for its existence, just like the whole Muslim world.

 

[Lulldapull]

Khamenei is casting TP-3 into shape like a wizard.

Word is it will be a massive attack on a scale never before seen with thousands of drones and missiles.

Israel key phatt jaey gee! The US is warning Iran to stop, but Iran does not fear the US at all. Irans already defeated the best the US got today in defenses.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Khamenei is casting TP-3 into shape like a wizard.

Word is it will be a massive attack on a scale never before seen with thousands of drones and missiles.

Israel key phatt jaey gee! The US is warning Iran to stop, but Iran does not fear the US at all. Irans already defeated the best the US got today in defenses.

Inki guftagoo suno, gaur kro



you too @Vsdoc

 

[Lulldapull]

Inki guftagoo suno, gaur kro



you too @Vsdoc

Brah……this bacha shah has zero support unfortunately. He represents his father’s poisoned legacy of handing over several trillion dollars of Iranian wealth to the west in exchange for junk weaponry.

Ye chutiappa Irani log ab bardasht ne karsaktay. Iran will not accept junk colonial politics like India or Pakistan or Al-Turkiya or Sawdi Judea.

This got sweet fukk all to do with Islam or anything religious.

Iran kay trillions loot ker junk weapons ya hollow chaudhraahatt baichna is unacceptable.

You can fool the other coludzz bhai. Irani’s are a hard nut to crack because of their 3000 year old legacy and history.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Brah……this bacha shah has zero support unfortunately. He represents his father’s poisoned legacy of handing over several trillion dollars of Iranian wealth to the west in exchange for junk weaponry.

Ye chutiappa Irani log ab bardasht ne karsaktay. Iran will not accept junk colonial politics like India or Pakistan or Al-Turkiya or Sawdi Judea.

This got sweet fukk all to do with Islam or anything religious.

Iran kay trillions loot ker junk weapons ya hollow chaudhraahatt baichna is unacceptable.

You can fool the other coludzz bhai. Irani’s are a hard nut to crack because of their 3000 year old legacy and history.

I know he's a nobody but he does have a story to tell, there was a time when they ruled Iran, it wasn't a theocracy then.

Wasn't exactly junk, the umriki goodies.. they still flying the F 14 (I love it, my fav fighter ever)

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Only he believes that Irans shower of hypersonic missiles and drones are all duds and that daily Irani pitthu are not killing IDF soldiers and civies left n right. My estimate is that Irans pitthu kill 10 IDF soldiers daily and injure an equal number.

This is not an age of believing or not believing. Everything is verifiable through satellite pictures.

 

[Lulldapull]

This is not an age of believing or not believing. Everything is verifiable through satellite pictures.

Iran can publish the damage on Tel Nov and Nevatim too. They have access to post strike damage assessment from space.

For some reason they’re not publishing it.

CNN/ BBC published doctored pics of attacks on Iranian sites. However we know for sure a 200kg warhead ain’t gonna do any damage to buried thick reinforced concrete bunkers protecting $5000 concrete mixers churning rocket fuel at low RPM.

Israel’s a nobody in front of Iran. I believe we can safely make this assessment.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran can publish the damage on Tel Nov and Nevatim too. They have access to post strike damage assessment from space.

For some reason they’re not publishing it.

CNN/ BBC published doctored pics of attacks on Iranian sites. However we know for sure a 200kg warhead ain’t gonna do any damage to buried thick reinforced concrete bunkers protecting $5000 concrete mixers churning rocket fuel at low RPM.

Israel’s a nobody in front of Iran. I believe we can safely make this assessment.

o mere baap

tu do din ruk ni sagda ?

sab chuppi saadh ke bethey hain, Irani, Ijraeli, Arbi, Europi, Rusi.. sab dekh re, wait kar re toss ka

batting pehle, bowling pehle.. ruk ja

sabr kar

 

[Sharma Ji]

team slection

 

[Sharma Ji]

o bhai. rally vekkho !

Arab Muslim American leader in Michigan takes the stage at zero hour, final campaign rally.

Sahi hai.. he knows only Trump can fix the Gaja mess !