[🇵🇰] RigVedic Period of Pakistan

[Sharma Ji]

Oh bhai I’m on de border of KP and extreme west north Punjab. That’s exactly where Haripur is. Yes lots of people here pashto and Punjabi also. It’s in the Potohar plateau. Ancient area since Taxila time.

Saeraki speaking ?

 

[Lulldapull]

Saeraki speaking ?

Oh no seraiki is south punjab/ north sindh. Here in Haripur about 500 miles north of Multan people speak either hindko or Pashto generally and few speak Punjabi.

This area is the home of Ashok. He lived here and then later chandragupta. Lot of invasions over the last 2700 years. The Achaemenids were here and then the Greeks came and then again the Parthians after the Greeks then the Scythians……then the central asian guppu came and destroyed Taxila. Destroyed all the monasteries and Stupas and the oldest university of the world. Now just ancient ruins of Dharmarajika, Jaulian and Sirkap remain.

Just like Moenjodaro bhai…..a very haunting and ancient city.

 

[ThunderCat]

NW India is very close to us in Punjab/ Sindh......its the same culture same language......

Likewise Pashto/ Balochi are much closer to the Iranis culturally/ linguistically. Hell Afghanistan's national language is Persian, who are we kidding man?

Its true bhai.....thank god they're not shia or else we wouldn't even exist as a country.......do mintt main they'd have gone there and joined the Iranis.

NW Indians that you write of are only a tiny percent of the Bharati population. Plus much of their commonality is purely linguistic.

Seen plenty of Northern Bhratis in Canada, they don't look like Eastern Pakistanis too much.
Traveled to rural Sindh last year, didn't find any rural Sindhis that look Pajeet.

It got me thinking how many exaggerated lies we've been fed.

 

[Mainerik]

Traveled to rural Sindh last year, didn't find any rural Sindhis that look Pajeet.

It got me thinking how many exaggerated lies we've been fed.

All those videos show them looking Indic. Altough different than Indians.

 

[Lulldapull]

NW Indians that you write of are only a tiny percent of the Bharati population. Plus much of their commonality is purely linguistic.

Seen plenty of Northern Bhratis in Canada, they don't look like Eastern Pakistanis too much.
Traveled to rural Sindh last year, didn't find any rural Sindhis that look Pajeet.

It got me thinking how many exaggerated lies we've been fed.

We only care about NW Indians (10% at most) because they are like us. Anybody else in India is not our lineage nor our culture they are aboriginal people of original India like traditional land owners.

I've sat down with Indians all da time and only their NW area is close to us culturally until Delhi/ Agra at the most (maybe 1% to 2% of their awaam if you include Brahmunndzz/ khatri).......after that bhai its just dalit aboriginal people.

Best of luck to them and the same going south of Delhi, the dalit country starts very quickly.

Wes da invaders from Ukraine/ Caucasus/ Iran/ Afghanistan over the last 5k years or so........this India is really their dalit country.

99.99999999% dalit hain bhai, ab kya bolain no?

 

[ThunderCat]

We only care about NW Indians (10% at most) because they are like us. Anybody else in India is not our lineage nor our culture they are aboriginal people of original India like traditional land owners.

I've sat down with Indians all da time and only their NW area is close to us culturally until Delhi/ Agra at the most (maybe 1% to 2% of their awaam if you include Brahmunndzz/ khatri).......after that bhai its just dalit aboriginal people.

Best of luck to them and the same going south of Delhi, the dalit country starts very quickly.

Wes da invaders from Ukraine/ Caucasus/ Iran/ Afghanistan over the last 5k years or so........this India is really their dalit country.

99.99999999% dalit hain bhai, ab kya bolain no?

I have too. Plenty of them simply don't look like us. Our "commonalities" are mainly common lingua franca from the Ghaznavids & Ghoris. There's also been a population exchange.

But on averages Northern Bharatis also look quite different from Native Punjabis & Sindhis.

 

[Sharma Ji]

But on averages Northern Bharatis also look quite different from Native Punjabis & Sindhis.

Do they ?

You'd be hard pressed to tell many north western Bhartis apart from your proper Pk momins if you take away the tika, stacheless beard, sikhan di turbin and other decorations on the insaand in question.

wduthink @Lulldapull ?

 

[Lulldapull]

Do they ?

You'd be hard pressed to tell many north western Bhartis apart from your proper Pk momins if you take away the tika, stacheless beard, sikhan di turbin and other decorations on the insaand in question.

wduthink @Lulldapull ?

Haan east punjab hurryaanrra/ himachulld sure…..others may be rajasthan western…..buss…Kashmiri people.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Haan east punjab hurryaanrra/ himachulld sure…..others may be rajasthan western…..buss…Kashmiri people.

ya, baadr regions basically.. deep into India they keep getting smaller and blacker.

malnourished 4 footer dalits ka mulk hai

 

[Lulldapull]

ya, baadr regions basically.. deep into India they keep getting smaller and blacker.

malnourished 4 footer dalits ka mulk hai

Bhai subcontinent 90% dalit hae…..there is no mistaking this.

We Hindi/ Urdu/ Punjabi/ Kashmiri/ Sindhi speakers are the outsiders.

West of Indus Persia begins.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Bhai subcontinent 90% dalit hae…..there is no mistaking this.

We Hindi/ Urdu/ Punjabi/ Kashmiri/ Sindhi speakers are the outsiders.

West of Indus Persia begins.

there's gora Tam Brams too, they hardcore about varna and caste.. Iyer, Iyengaar bammans etc.. as well as nimboodhri and others from maharastra.. goras with sometimes blue/green/hazel eyes waali genes..


Ajit Agarkar, Aishwarya Rai.. many

 

[Sharma Ji]

wait, I got that wrong.. nimboodhri are Kerala bammans, but there's many ethno fascist bamman groups here

 

[Sharma Ji]

ok, googles, apparently Aishwarya is not bamman at all !

 

[Sharma Ji]

I meant chitpavan, saraswat .. and others

 

[Sharma Ji]

Sharmas are common folk lower level ones.. garden variety paan chabau on the streets on Varanasi types

 

[ThunderCat]

Do they ?

You'd be hard pressed to tell many north western Bhartis apart from your proper Pk momins if you take away the tika, stacheless beard, sikhan di turbin and other decorations on the insaand in question.

wduthink @Lulldapull ?

Living in Canada and encountering many NW Bharatis and visiting Pakistan, I began to realize this even more than I already have.

No other reason. Common linguistics does not equal common genetics. Not to mention there has been a population exchange between the two countries.

There is a desire on the Bharati side to seek 'commonality' with the Pakistani side, but the feeling is not mutual, unless you count Muhajirs & liberal class Sindhis.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Living in Canada and encountering many NW Bharatis and visiting Pakistan, I began to realize this even more than I already have.

No other reason. Common linguistics does not equal common genetics. Not to mention there has been a population exchange between the two countries.

There is a desire on the Bharati side to seek 'commonality' with the Pakistani side, but the feeling is not mutual, unless you count Muhajirs & liberal class Sindhis.

It may well be the case, then. I live here and therefore don't get to meet many (any) Pakistanis. Years ago I'd met some Pakistanis who were here for a wedding and that's all I've even known.. Lahoris, very nice cultured folk and looked just like everyone else mostly apart from the accent which I found quite different.

Apart from that all I have is news, TV, interweb video bits. Bhot different to nahi lagtey, imo

Haan, but, these chhotu 4 footer scrawny malnourished ugly black Bihari, UP bhaiyya types.. those are an Indian special, dalits, chamaars etc

 

[Sharma Ji]

@Lulldapull

 

[Dogun18]

It may well be the case, then. I live here and therefore don't get to meet many (any) Pakistanis. Years ago I'd met some Pakistanis who were here for a wedding and that's all I've even known.. Lahoris, very nice cultured folk and looked just like everyone else mostly apart from the accent which I found quite different.

Apart from that all I have is news, TV, interweb video bits. Bhot different to nahi lagtey, imo

Haan, but, these chhotu 4 footer scrawny malnourished ugly black Bihari, UP bhaiyya types.. those are an Indian special, dalits, chamaars etc

Pakistanis in India for a wedding?

 

[Sharma Ji]

@Lulldapull

Pakistanis in India for a wedding?

Yes, my cousin married a musalman who had family and ancestral ties to Pakistanis so about a dozen or so contingent came down for it.