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Dogun18 said:
This is 2024. Get rid of the caste mindset.
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im just taking the piss, yaar.

I thought this forum allowed non politically correct thought to be aired freely, without fear of mod chewtiapa and reprisal.

is forum pe 'behind closed doors' waali baatein hoti hain.

high level skorti cabinet meeting type.
 
Sharma Ji said:
im just taking the piss, yaar.

I thought this forum allowed non politically correct thought to be aired freely, without fear of mod chewtiapa and reprisal.

is forum pe 'behind closed doors' waali baatein hoti hain.

high level skorti cabinet meeting type.
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Free speech isn't the issue here, this forum allows it.

I asked you, in particular, to get over the caste system and move into the 21st century.
 
Dogun18 said:
Free speech isn't the issue here, this forum allows it.

I asked you, in particular, to get over the caste system and move into the 21st century.
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The Caste and Varna system is a key plinth of Hinduism dogun bhai.

Why should any Hindu "get over it"?

You (Muslims) have your faith and beliefs and rules.

Hindus have theirs.
 
Vsdoc said:
The Caste and Varna system is a key plinth of Hinduism dogun bhai.

Why should any Hindu "get over it"?

You (Muslims) have your faith and beliefs and rules.

Hindus have theirs.
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But seeing others as a 'lower form'... are you fine with that? That's all I question.
 
Dogun18 said:
Free speech isn't the issue here, this forum allows it.

I asked you, in particular, to get over the caste system and move into the 21st century.
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I AM over it

never been a consideration for me, ever, so never been under the influence of it either

sadly, but, it remains a consideration for politicians.. and its almost always the LEFT who are trying to cash in on it, that's how they operate, globally.

caste, varna etc max aapko shaadion ki ceremonies, new baby ka 'naamkaran' (naming) etc me nazar aayega.

as a Cypriot in Algeria (wtf?) .. we don't expect you to have a grasp on the whole scene here.

India is NOT EASY to understand.
 
Dogun18 said:
But seeing others as a 'lower form'... are you fine with that? That's all I question.
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Well I am a Zoroastrian. From an ancient Aryan faith. We have (had) a very similar structure in Persian society.

The Athoran (Athrvan) were the hereditary line of priesthood (the Dasturs and Mobeds, descendants of the ancient Magii).

The other classes were similar and in fact even more specialized than the Hindus. Artisans, traders, farmers, etc.

Unlike Hindus, there was no specialist warrior caste/class, as Persian Zoroastrian society in size was a lot smaller, a ways more militaristic and expeditionary, cross continent, and everyone fought. Even our women. Including our monarchy and nobility and (especially) the priests.

When we came to India, over the next 500-600 years (22-28 generations) the other classes, for ease and the simple fact that there were too few of us remaining for so many classes, were all coalesced into a single class of Behdin (the Faithful). These are the commoners.

The Athrvan class with its very strict bloodline rules, and hereditary training of priests by word of mouth from father to son, was left untouched.

There was an additional class that came about, that of the pall bearers. The Khandias. Who carry the dead body into the Dakhmas (Towers of Silence). No one else is allowed beyond its gates. They are the untouchables, so to speak. They marry within themselves. And a whole lot of other rules.

These are the descendants of the children of Persian men and Indian women unions when we first landed here. Absorbed by a one-time decree and Navjote (investiture) ceremony into the faith.

Centuries later in Bombay in the early 19th century a similar ceremony was done to mass formalize children of Parsi seths and their non Parsi concubines.

Cheers, Doc
 
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ek religious discussions wala thread bana skte hai idhar ?

just a handful of folk here, all decent, as far as I can tell.. no budhau type madarcxods.

full tameej and tehjeeb wala thread..

wt say you @Vsdoc

inspired by our chit chat on LP group
 
Guru ko bulao, yaar.. if you're serious about this place.

he also gets treated horribly unfairly at that place by those two Indian chamaars
 
Bro I am serious about this place.

But a certain level of responsibility lies on y-our shoulders too.

Can't be brandishing the same fare everywhere.

See the type of members and their posts and engage.

Aggro for aggro. Respect for respect. Jingoism where necessary for the jingoists.

Cant be a one track pony. Don't be.

As far as I can see, our western bros are a revelation here. We should do our bit too.
 
Vsdoc said:
Bro I am serious about this place.

But a certain level of responsibility lies on y-our shoulders too.

Can't be brandishing the same fare everywhere.

See the type of members and their posts and engage.

Aggro for aggro. Respect for respect. Jingoism where necessary for the jingoists.

Cant be a one track pony. Don't be.

As far as I can see, our western bros are a revelation here. We should do our bit too.
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I never been a nasty troll, man. Mera fav poster is hatehs/hiptullah, and Areesh, vintage Zarvan .. :ROFLMAO:

usi me aatey hain mazey.. ki, bring it, bc !

yahan koi Modi sarkar ki taraf se diplomatic communiques to type karni nahi.. apna budhau pata ni konsi dunia me gayab rehta hai, cxutia.

stay mast, bro
 
Sharma Ji said:
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Yaar sharma saaray Central Asia main Iran aaj nunga ghuns sakta hae and reclaim the long lost Achaemenid empire in two days!

Mager bhai aaj dekho Central Asia main kon reh ra hae!!!!!

Iran chutiya nahi hae. They don’t want the massive headache governing huge territories and worse of all turkish logon ka kya karay Iran bhai?

Aik museebat hae there is no heads nor tails of reclaiming your long lost territory bhai.

Population hae nahi Iran key and already they are bigger in size than turkey and Pakistan put together and if you include the Sy-Raaq and Lebanon and Yemen……they exceeding your India in land mass.
 
Lulldapull said:
Yaar sharma saaray Central Asia main Iran aaj nunga ghuns sakta hae and reclaim the long lost Achaemenid empire in two days!

Mager bhai aaj dekho Central Asia main kon reh ra hae!!!!!

Iran chutiya nahi hae. They don’t want the massive headache governing huge territories and worse of all turkish logon ka kya karay Iran bhai?

Aik museebat hae there is no heads nor tails of reclaiming your long lost territory bhai.

Population hae nahi Iran key and already they are bigger in size than turkey and Pakistan put together and if you include the Sy-Raaq and Lebanon and Yemen……they exceeding your India in land mass.
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"Civilizational state" hai Iran.

Currently ruled by a chewtiya turbin'd crew bhi hai Iran.

They should just make good with the west, pretty sure it can be done.. baaki saari regional monarchies are full in bed with uncle Sam, begum Iran bhi ghus sakti hain, if she wants 🤣

Pride bhot hai but.. which is fair.

Biggest reason, however, ye hai k.. Ijraelion ka le k.. a lot of the Muslim world has sorta made peace with the entity, Iran, and a couple of south African commie type nobodies (oil waaley) .. unko problem hai but abhi bhi.

Such bullheadedness is not going to help their cause. If they actually so damn concerned about the Palestinians, why don't they just resettle the whole lot somewhere in Iran ? For a trillion $ payout, or something insane like that, and a lifting of all sanctions.. sweet sweet deal.

I'd take the monies and get the whole world's best infra firms to come in and khata khat ek shining new country khadi karni, and plenty of change to spare left for every single Palestinian family, Ayatullah and gang also walk home with big yuge bags of gold. 💡🤔

Tremendous deal, Trump style.
 
Sharma Ji said:
"Civilizational state" hai Iran.

Currently ruled by a chewtiya turbin'd crew bhi hai Iran.

They should just make good with the west, pretty sure it can be done.. baaki saari regional monarchies are full in bed with uncle Sam, begum Iran bhi ghus sakti hain, if she wants 🤣

Pride bhot hai but.. which is fair.

Biggest reason, however, ye hai k.. Ijraelion ka le k.. a lot of the Muslim world has sorta made peace with the entity, Iran, and a couple of south African commie type nobodies (oil waaley) .. unko problem hai but abhi bhi.

Such bullheadedness is not going to help their cause. If they actually so damn concerned about the Palestinians, why don't they just resettle the whole lot somewhere in Iran ? For a trillion $ payout, or something insane like that, and a lifting of all sanctions.. sweet sweet deal.

I'd take the monies and get the whole world's best infra firms to come in and khata khat ek shining new country khadi karni, and plenty of change to spare left for every single Palestinian family, Ayatullah and gang also walk home with big yuge bags of gold. 💡🤔

Tremendous deal, Trump style.
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Do you think Iran's lacking in money, with the world's largest oil reserves? Lol

Shiny new country? Have you seen videos of Iran and compared theur cities and people and way of dressing to our south asian countries?

Bro you are talking as if Iran is Somalia.

They have a better quality of life than us Indians. Cleaner and better infrastructure.
 
Sharma Ji said:
"Civilizational state" hai Iran.

Currently ruled by a chewtiya turbin'd crew bhi hai Iran.

They should just make good with the west, pretty sure it can be done.. baaki saari regional monarchies are full in bed with uncle Sam, begum Iran bhi ghus sakti hain, if she wants 🤣

Pride bhot hai but.. which is fair.

Biggest reason, however, ye hai k.. Ijraelion ka le k.. a lot of the Muslim world has sorta made peace with the entity, Iran, and a couple of south African commie type nobodies (oil waaley) .. unko problem hai but abhi bhi.

Such bullheadedness is not going to help their cause. If they actually so damn concerned about the Palestinians, why don't they just resettle the whole lot somewhere in Iran ? For a trillion $ payout, or something insane like that, and a lifting of all sanctions.. sweet sweet deal.

I'd take the monies and get the whole world's best infra firms to come in and khata khat ek shining new country khadi karni, and plenty of change to spare left for every single Palestinian family, Ayatullah and gang also walk home with big yuge bags of gold. 💡🤔

Tremendous deal, Trump style.
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Arbion ko boht bura samajhtay hain iranis. Toba toba…….iran kabhi nahi lay ga arbi refugees.
 
Vsdoc said:
Do you think Iran's lacking in money, with the world's largest oil reserves? Lol

Shiny new country? Have you seen videos of Iran and compared theur cities and people and way of dressing to our south asian countries?

Bro you are talking as if Iran is Somalia.

They have a better quality of life than us Indians. Cleaner and better infrastructure.
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No arguing they're cleaner than us Indians, but then that's also not a very high bar, is it ? :P

Shiny new country of Palestine, carved into current day Iran, they got a lot of space.

Sure, world's largest oil supplies and also sanctioned to the high heavens but, aren't they ? They making barely but a pittance now even with China and India and some others maintaining oil trade despite western pressure.

I'm talking about unshackling them, from all type of sanctions, not just embargoes on their oil, lift all tech transfer sanctions, like khulli choot de do.. they gonna rise like a rocket.

That Lion is caged, coz he crazy.. let go his Israel obsession and watch them kick srs butt.. limitless potential, but no possible with them being way they are today.

Life isn't fair, the world isn't fair.. kahin toh compromije karna hi hoga... we all do it in our personal lives, politicians do it for sake of their party, entire countries also do it..

Trump aa raha hai, it'll be their best chance to make a deal, a tremendous one even.
 
Sharma Ji said:
No arguing they're cleaner than us Indians, but then that's also not a very high bar, is it ? :P

Shiny new country of Palestine, carved into current day Iran, they got a lot of space.

Sure, world's largest oil supplies and also sanctioned to the high heavens but, aren't they ? They making barely but a pittance now even with China and India and some others maintaining oil trade despite western pressure.

I'm talking about unshackling them, from all type of sanctions, not just embargoes on their oil, lift all tech transfer sanctions, like khulli choot de do.. they gonna rise like a rocket.

That Lion is caged, coz he crazy.. let go his Israel obsession and watch them kick srs butt.. limitless potential, but no possible with them being way they are today.

Life isn't fair, the world isn't fair.. kahin toh compromije karna hi hoga... we all do it in our personal lives, politicians do it for sake of their party, entire countries also do it..

Trump aa raha hai, it'll be their best chance to make a deal, a tremendous one even.
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It’s an ego thing bhai. Kahan Iran kahan arbi guddhay ya turkish guppu log…come on now.

Saaray arbi west k bhattay per zinda. Aur Israel can’t survive a week without western life support.

Iran standing alone and sovereign no? Not dependent on nobody!

They’ve been there done it under the shah and realized that there ain’t no equal than being sovereign.
 
Lulldapull said:
It’s an ego thing bhai. Kahan Iran kahan arbi guddhay ya turkish guppu log…come on now.

Saaray arbi west k bhattay per zinda. Aur Israel can’t survive a week without western life support.

Iran standing alone and sovereign no? Not dependent on nobody!

They’ve been there done it under the shah and realized that there ain’t no equal than being sovereign.
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West free me nahi de ra, oil trade hai.

Iran got limitless reserves almost, inki market me entry ban hai but ji.

Mera point ye hai ki, we gotta stop this nonsense. Just forget about the Israel Palestine thing, kuch nahi rakha, they will NEVER win against the combined might of the west, not conventionally, not in a nuclear exchange.. they been check mated.. make a deal and get out already ffs..

Make a deal and prosper, or, keep fighting a losing battle till they're actually proper finito khallas'd.

Win loss da mamla chalda rehnda.. this stubbornness will be the end of them.
 
Sharma Ji said:
West free me nahi de ra, oil trade hai.

Iran got limitless reserves almost, inki market me entry ban hai but ji.

Mera point ye hai ki, we gotta stop this nonsense. Just forget about the Israel Palestine thing, kuch nahi rakha, they will NEVER win against the combined might of the west, not conventionally, not in a nuclear exchange.. they been check mated.. make a deal and get out already ffs..

Make a deal and prosper, or, keep fighting a losing battle till they're actually proper finito khallas'd.

Win loss da mamla chalda rehnda.. this stubbornness will be the end of them.
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Do you realise that Iran has a population equal to West Bengal?

Look at the real estate and resources and global realpolitik they actually control in the world's most volatile and energy key region.

They are actually punching way way way above their actual organic weight.
 
Vsdoc said:
Do you realise that Iran has a population equal to West Bengal?

Look at the real estate and resources and global realpolitik they actually control in the world's most volatile and energy key region.

They are actually punching way way way above their actual organic weight.
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Sure, all I was suggesting was that they needn't even be in a fight.

Why fight when you can prosper ?

Kya ye Palestine Palestine lagai rakhe ho ? Why ? .. let it go, get on with it.. why does it have to be the hill they want to die on ?

xutias, man.
 
Sharma Ji said:
Sure, all I was suggesting was that they needn't even be in a fight.

Why fight when you can prosper ?

Kya ye Palestine Palestine lagai rakhe ho ? Why ? .. let it go, get on with it.. why does it have to be the hill they want to die on ?

xutias, man.
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They are not hardwired to being anyone's poodles.

That's why.
 
Vsdoc said:
They are not hardwired to being anyone's poodles.

That's why.
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Pragmatism bhi ek cheez hoti hai.

They been dealt a bad hand, they should fold.

Not suggesting a regime change or a restructuring of their very austere and conservative Shi'ite Islamic society, here.

Palestine ko le ke kya pride pride lagai rakhe hain ye log ?

They have ZERO scope of winning, take a deal, make a deal.. going down fighting karlo warna...

honi 'going down' hi hai, fir achar daaltay rehna "jannat" me apni pride and ego ka.
 
Sharma Ji said:
@Vsdoc .. your motivations here are a bit suspect

you want full tabahi of Iran, we know why :D

galt gal, but.. meri maano, bygones kar do 🤝
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I've no such motivation. And I believe the west would have done it if they could. Long ago. Now it is too late. Iran is a threshold nuclear state with demonstrated delivery capability. A capability that if it reaches Israel, also brings a number of European nations within the arc.

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Vsdoc said:
I've no such motivation. And I believe the west would have done it if they could. Long ago. Now it is too late. Iran is a threshold nuclear state with demonstrated delivery capability. A capability that if it reaches Israel, also brings a number of European nations within the arc.

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Haanso what ? Even in case they've crossed the threshold as many suspect they might have.. unki belligerence is limited to a proxy game. Ek nuke fenko ge Israel or other US allies in the region pe, bc 50 aap pe aa ke girne hai.

The time for a proper reveal was yesterday, koi baat nahi, today, or max tomorrow... kar hi do reveal, ab kya fayda hiding ka ?

Gather the world's media, CNN SOOENEN and Fox and BBC types big westy ones.. and sabke samne ek underground explozion kar do, aatmi waala. What stops them ?

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Sharma Ji said:
Haanso what ? Even in case they've crossed the threshold as many suspect they might have.. unki belligerence is limited to a proxy game. Ek nuke fenko ge Israel or other US allies in the region pe, bc 50 aap pe aa ke girne hai.

The time for a proper reveal was yesterday, koi baat nahi, today, or max tomorrow... kar hi do reveal, ab kya fayda hiding ka ?

Gather the world's media, CNN SOOENEN and Fox and BBC types big westy ones.. and sabke samne ek underground explozion kar do, aatmi waala. What stops them ?

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Who said anything about Iran lobbing the first nuke?

And open demonstration why?

Fear of the unknown.

Ye darr accha hai. Is darr pe mullon ki dukaan kayam hai.
 
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