[🇵🇰] 1988 - When Pakistan and Russia came face-to-face in Afghanistan - The Battle for Hill 3234

[TheNewb77]

The Battle for Hill 3234 (Russian: Бой у высоты 3234, romanized: Boy u vysoty 3234) was a successful defensive battle fought by the 9th Company of the 345th Independent Guards Airborne Regiment, Soviet Airborne Troops, in Afghanistan against a force of some 250 Mujahideen rebels who were supported by several Pakistani mercenaries in early January 1988. Two of the soldiers killed, Vyacheslav Aleksandrov and Andrey Melnikov, were posthumously awarded the Gold Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union. All of the paratroopers in this battle were given the Order of the Red Banner and Order of the Red Star.




Or go to 16:30 to get to the point:

 

[PakistanProud]

https://archive.claws.in/images/journals_doc/2131815590_AnuraagChhibber.pdf

The Battle of The Hill should not be confused for "The Battle of Hilli" which was inarguably the most savagely fought battle of the Indo-Pak War of 1971. As observed by the then Army Commander, Eastern Command, Lt Gen JS Arora, PVSM, “Hilli was the bloodiest battle in the then East Pakistan”.

 

[Dogun18]

https://archive.claws.in/images/journals_doc/2131815590_AnuraagChhibber.pdf

The Battle of The Hill should not be confused for "The Battle of Hilli" which was inarguably the most savagely fought battle of the Indo-Pak War of 1971. As observed by the then Army Commander, Eastern Command, Lt Gen JS Arora, PVSM, “Hilli was the bloodiest battle in the then East Pakistan”.

Interesting. The two names are almost similar and both bloody battles. I'm sure @Vsdoc @Saif @Bilal9 @Sharma Ji @Lulldapull @Old School @ThunderCat @TheNewb77 @Mb444 @Vikings @LeonBlack08 @VCheng Would have some input.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I'll have to do some research, at least provided links to dekh k will comment.

Panjshir, but.. are these the fires that forged the man who was to become the Lion of there ?

I'm not super well read on all the history but operation 'Enduring Freedom' and later ka I'm reasonably well versed, spl in SF ops.. qila e jhangi, Karzai rescue.. ODAs 595/574, Takur Garh etc .. and some, the odd SEAL mission ka reading kara hai.

by far my favorite conflict.. Vietnam ka baad isi me hua scene, old school wars wala... Iraq was too much street fighting/urban combat type

 

[Lulldapull]

I'll have to do some research, at least provided links to dekh k will comment.

Panjshir, but.. are these the fires that forged the man who was to become the Lion of there ?

I'm not super well read on all the history but operation 'Enduring Freedom' and later ka I'm reasonably well versed, spl in SF ops.. qila e jhangi, Karzai rescue.. ODAs 595/574, Takur Garh etc .. and some, the odd SEAL mission ka reading kara hai.

by far my favorite conflict.. Vietnam ka baad isi me hua scene, old school wars wala... Iraq was too much street fighting/urban combat type

The US sold Iraq to Iran a long time ago. They’re about to sell Israel to Iran now.

Kya aur bolain bhai? It’s inevitable.

Trumps main deal goin be to pull Iran onto his side……and Irans interested in a grand bargain.

The Iranian offer is long in da table…..see if trump realizes the obvious and sells Israel as a theme park mazhabi franchise to Iran.

Fingers crossed

 

[Dogun18]

https://archive.claws.in/images/journals_doc/2131815590_AnuraagChhibber.pdf

The Battle of The Hill should not be confused for "The Battle of Hilli" which was inarguably the most savagely fought battle of the Indo-Pak War of 1971. As observed by the then Army Commander, Eastern Command, Lt Gen JS Arora, PVSM, “Hilli was the bloodiest battle in the then East Pakistan”.

@Vortex

What do you think?

 

[Dogun18]

Interesting. The two names are almost similar and both bloody battles. I'm sure @Vsdoc @Saif @Bilal9 @Sharma Ji @Lulldapull @Old School @ThunderCat @TheNewb77 @Mb444 @Vikings @LeonBlack08 @VCheng Would have some input.

@Vsdoc ?

 

[Lulldapull]

We defeated Russia in Afghanistan with the full support of the west. 10,000 Russias died and the nature of guerilla warfare in very difficult mountainous terrain in Afghanistan tanked the Russian will to fight it out.

The USSR never lost a single battle in Afghanistan, but they lost the war!

As a side note, this is exactly what Irans tryin do to Israel. We all know how that will end too…….just a matter of time as the Iranians are very pig headed. They won’t budge and Israel’s an itty bitty two bit country. Virtually indefensible.

 

[Sharma Ji]

The US sold Iraq to Iran a long time ago. They’re about to sell Israel to Iran now.

Kya aur bolain bhai? It’s inevitable.

Trumps main deal goin be to pull Iran onto his side……and Irans interested in a grand bargain.

The Iranian offer is long in da table…..see if trump realizes the obvious and sells Israel as a theme park mazhabi franchise to Iran.

Fingers crossed

Na ji, Jewish bankers own Trump, sabko pta hai.

He has, however, on many many occasions made statements saying he's down with making a deal, sit down with the Iranians and hash out a solution.

Trade deals and sanctions relief will be his tools, throwing Israel under the bus is not happening, zero chance.

Be interesting to see kya karta hai.

neocons are full sapport to neolib kumla devi, woh saali aa gai toh war hi war, 100% .. I hope she loses in a landslide, the witch.

 

[Vsdoc]

@Vsdoc ?

Putin is a hardcore old school cold war KGB man.

He is never going to forgive Pakistan.

 

[Dogun18]

https://archive.claws.in/images/journals_doc/2131815590_AnuraagChhibber.pdf

The Battle of The Hill should not be confused for "The Battle of Hilli" which was inarguably the most savagely fought battle of the Indo-Pak War of 1971. As observed by the then Army Commander, Eastern Command, Lt Gen JS Arora, PVSM, “Hilli was the bloodiest battle in the then East Pakistan”.

Putin is a hardcore old school cold war KGB man.

He is never going to forgive Pakistan.

I mean the quote above

 

[Vsdoc]

I mean the quote above

Sorry. No idea about the specifics of the above. I was a few months old infant then.

 

[Bilal9]

Interesting. The two names are almost similar and both bloody battles. I'm sure @Vsdoc @Saif @Bilal9 @Sharma Ji @Lulldapull @Old School @ThunderCat @TheNewb77 @Mb444 @Vikings @LeonBlack08 @VCheng Would have some input.

Battle of Hilli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Although the bloody battle could not be won without the bloodletting and sacrifice by the Mukti Bahini, an overwhelmingly large part of whom went unrecognized in the annals and records of the Indian Army, the Mukti Bahini commander rejected his award.

This undermining of Bangladeshi freedom fighters is typical of Indian Army historical records of that whole war, who falsely claimed it as their "victory" against Pakistan, undermining the contribution of Mukti Bahini Militias and various former EPR units and various East Bengal Regimental units. 1st East Bengal Regiment - Wikipedia.

Major Quazi Nuruzzaman was awarded Bir Uttom, the second-highest award for individual gallantry in Bangladesh, but he rejected it as thousands of Mukti Bahini volunteers, though achieving shaheed status - did not receive any recognition by either Mujib's govt. or the Indians.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Random, don't hold me to it lol

but I think I knew a lady who was house hunting for him in Dilli, this is way back in the day.. Ghar mil bhi gaya, was in a reasonably "posh" area.. very cluttered area despite the posh status... skorti was insane

in Dilli, quote some years ago now.. he musta moved to the US or something now.

 

[Dogun18]

https://archive.claws.in/images/journals_doc/2131815590_AnuraagChhibber.pdf

The Battle of The Hill should not be confused for "The Battle of Hilli" which was inarguably the most savagely fought battle of the Indo-Pak War of 1971. As observed by the then Army Commander, Eastern Command, Lt Gen JS Arora, PVSM, “Hilli was the bloodiest battle in the then East Pakistan”.

Interesting