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I have many Nepalis working here with me in my office. India, Nepal has visa less commutation. Only, both government has some issues. Basically, Nepalis and Indias are brothers with same culture. We love one other. I do not remember any conflict between Nepalis and Hindus ever like what I have seen between Hindus and Muslims and Among Differant groups of Muslims Themselves. Lucknow has a long history of Riots between Shias and Sunnis. In Kashmir, Wahabis did not spare any Sufi Shrine. Forget about Hindu temples. Security gus in our flat is a Nepali guy. The guy who cleans my car is a Nepali. They are very happy to work with Hindus in India. We have over 5 million Nepalis working in India. Infact, they are given preferential treatment over other locals.
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It proves nothing, This sort of Small issues keep happening and gets resolved. Haven't Muslims in BD have killed fellow Muslims of same country? Hindus and Nepalis have far better relations than what Sia -Sunnis have amongst themselves. Nepalis and Hindus have far superior relations than any Muslim groups have amongst themselves.
 
It proves nothing, This sort of Small issues keep happening and gets resolved. Haven't Muslims in BD have killed fellow Muslims of same country? Hindus and Nepalis have far better relations than what Sia -Sunnis have amongst themselves. Nepalis and Hindus have far superior relations than any Muslim groups have amongst themselves.
Small issue? You think territorial dispute is a small issue. Territorial dispute challenges your sovereignty.
 

1,552 killed by Israeli fire in Lebanon since Sept 23
Agence France-Presse . Beirut, Lebanon 23 October, 2024, 01:39

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More than 1,550 people have been killed in bombardment by Israel since it intensified its air campaign on Lebanon last month, according to an AFP tally updated with new figures released on Tuesday.

Lebanon’s health ministry reported 63 killed in ‘Israeli enemy strikes on Lebanon’ Monday, raising the death toll from an strike near a south Beirut hospital to 18. The real toll is likely to be higher due to data gaps.

US secretary of state Antony Blinken was in Israel Tuesday to push for a ceasefire in Gaza after his administration called for an end to the war in Lebanon ‘as soon as possible’.

It is his 11th trip to the Middle East since Hamas’s attack on Israel more than a year ago triggered the Gaza war, and his first since Israel’s conflict with Hezbollah escalated late last month.

He is due to meet prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other top officials, as Israel weighs its response to Iran’s October 1 missile attack.

In Lebanon, Israel hit an area of south Beirut housing the country’s largest public health facility, killing 13 people, according to the health ministry.

The Rafic Hariri Hospital, located outside Hezbollah’s traditional strongholds, sustained minor damage in the strike which flattened four buildings in its vicinity, said an AFP correspondent in the area.

Previous US efforts to end the Gaza war and contain the regional fallout have failed, as did a bid spearheaded by president Joe Biden and his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron to secure a temporary ceasefire in Lebanon.

After Israel, Blinken will visit Jordan on Wednesday and discuss humanitarian aid for the Gaza Strip, an official on the plane with him said.

Blinken also plans to speak to Israeli leaders about the expected strike on Iran and discourage any move that could massively escalate regional conflict, the official said.

On Monday, US envoy to Lebanon Amos Hochstein said his administration was seeking an end to the war ‘as soon as possible’ as he pushed for a ceasefire based on a UN resolution that had ended an earlier Israel-Hezbollah war.

Under resolution 1701, Hezbollah should have withdrawn from areas in south Lebanon near the Israeli border, leaving only the country’s weak military and UN peacekeepers deployed there.

But Hezbollah remained south of Lebanon’s Litani River, and in October last year began launching low-intensity cross-border strikes into Israel, in support of its Palestinian ally Hamas.

After nearly a year of war in Gaza, Israel shifted its focus to Lebanon, vowing to secure its northern border to allow tens of thousands of Israelis displaced by the cross-border fire to return to their homes.

The strike on Monday night came as Israel targeted Beirut’s southern suburbs with heavy fire following evacuation warnings.

The densely populated Ouzai neighbourhood a few kilometres from the city centre was hit for the first time in the conflict, sparking an exodus of residents.

The Israeli military said it was targeting Hezbollah’s naval unit, and that it had issued an evacuation warning.

A Lebanese security official said that the country’s national airline had to switch landing strips after Israeli strikes near Beirut’s only international airport hit close to the main runway.

Hezbollah on Tuesday said it launched rockets targeting two positions in the suburbs of Israel’s commercial hub Tel Aviv, including an intelligence base.

It also said it targeted Israel’s ‘Stella Maris naval base’ near the northern city of Haifa, and that its militants had clashed with Israeli troops near a village at the border.

In a war-hit area along the Lebanese border, AFP footage showed huge clouds of smoke rising following Israeli strikes on the village of Khiam, as trails of smoke from Hezbollah rockets fired towards Israel could also be seen.

The wars in Gaza and Lebanon have also drawn in other Iran-aligned armed groups, including in Yemen, Syria and Iraq.

Iran on Tuesday said it had received assurances from its neighbours that they would not allow the use of their airspace for any attack against it, after Israel pledged to hit back against its October 1 missile attack.

In the Gaza Strip, Israel launched a major air and ground assault in northern Gaza earlier this month, vowing to stop Hamas militants from regrouping in the area.

Gaza’s civil defence agency said four Palestinians were killed in strikes on Monday, while several homes were blown up in the northern area of Jabalia, a focal point of the recent fighting.

A displaced resident said Jabalia ‘is being wiped out’.

‘If we don’t die from the bombing and gunfire, we will die of hunger,’ said 42-year-old Umm Firas Shamiyah, demanding aid be sent to the north.

Tens of thousands of people are estimated to have fled the assault on northern Gaza, and according to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees around 4,00,000 people were trapped in the area last week.

The UN has warned of the risk of famine in Gaza, its figures showing that 396 aid trucks have entered the territory so far this month — far below the 3,003 seen in September.

The war was sparked by Hamas’s unprecedented attack on Israel on October 7 last year, which resulted in the deaths of 1,206 people, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally of official Israeli figures.

Israel’s offensive in Gaza has killed 42,718 people, a majority civilians, according to data from the health ministry in the Hamas-run territory, figures the UN considers reliable.​
 
Small issue for big and powerful country. May be big issue for small and weak country.
I thought big and powerful countries were more serious about their territorial integrity and sovereignty. But as per your argument, India is the only big and powerful country which has no regards for its territorial integrity and sovereignty.
 
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I thought big and powerful countries were more serious about their territorial integrity and sovereignty. But as per your argument, India is the only big and powerful country which has no regards for its territorial integrity and sovereignty.

We regard our as well as our neighbour's territorial integrity. Have we ever tried to take away BD land since 1971? Have we tried to grab the land of Bhutan? Did we try to capture Maldives? You are saying this because you don't have the experience of a neighbour like China. We always respected our neighbour's territorial integrity and sovereignty.
 
We regard our as well as our neighbour's territorial integrity. Have we ever tried to take away BD land since 1971? Have we tried to grab the land of Bhutan? Did we try to capture Maldives? You are saying this because you don't have the experience of a neighbour like China. We always respected our neighbour's territorial integrity and sovereignty.
If India didn't want to take its neighbors land, then why did India sponsor insurgency in Chittagong Hill Tracts of Bangladesh and in North Eastern part of Sri Lanka to create Tamil Elam by providing arms and training to Tamil Tigers?
 
If India didn't want to take its neighbors land, then why did India sponsor insurgency in Chittagong Hill Tracts of Bangladesh and in North Eastern part of Sri Lanka to create Tamil Elam by providing arms and training to Tamil Tigers?

There is no remedy to false belief. We do not want to push any insurgency. Had we had any such design, we would have done it in 1971 or in few years post that.

So far as Tamil Elam is concern, it was India which helped SL to fight with Talim Elam. We send their peace keeping force because of which our PM assassinated. SL would have never defeated Talim Elam without the help of India. We sacrificed over 800 soldiers defending SL from Tamil Elam. Your country would not have got Independent without the Indian help and sacrifice of 4500 Indian soldier. Inspite of all these helps, our small neighbors have remained thankless. Not only they have remained thankless, but they have tried to act against Indian interest.
 

Israel & the violation of states' sovereignty
Syed Badrul Ahsan
Published :
Oct 23, 2024 22:01
Updated :
Oct 23, 2024 22:01

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Smoke billows following Israeli airstrikes in the southern suburb of Beirut, Lebanon on October 19, 2024 Photo : Xinhua

Israel's relentless pounding of Beirut raises the critical question of how powerful states in our times as also earlier have with impunity violated the sovereignty of weaker nations. The tragedy at this point is that Benjamin Netanyahu and his extremist-dominated government in Tel Aviv are not being forcefully persuaded by the world's influential powers into calling a halt to their aggressive acts. The genocide in Gaza goes on; influential leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah have systematically been targeted and killed by Israeli forces; not even senior Iranian military figures have been spared.

And now it is Lebanon whose territorial integrity and sovereignty are under assault by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF). Israel's friends in the West have done little to convince Tel Aviv that its actions have now reached a point where a wider conflagration could be staring the world in the face. Israel now plans an assault on Iran in light of the latter's missile attack on the former earlier this month. Israel goes on bombing busy neighbourhoods in Beirut in search of Hezbollah, who along with Hamas have vowed to carry on with their military campaign against the Netanyahu government. The recent drone attack on Netanyahu's home is a reflection of how conditions are spiralling out of control of all the elements involved in the current crisis.

The brazenness of Israeli actions in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon are once again a reminder of how nations have historically suffered through the aggressive designs of states that have had no qualms in violating the independence of other states. It is such actions which have belied the pious calls for peace to descend on the world. In real terms, peace has never been part of the global landscape for as long as one can remember. In our times, the invasion of Afghanistan by Soviet forces in December 1979 was an early indication of the chaos that would descend on Kabul and keep it in its grip for decades. The Soviets were compelled to beat a retreat from Afghanistan in Gorbachev times, but that was no hint that the country, by then a state ravaged by war and internecine tribal conflict, would get back to being a normal state.

The entry of the United States (US), Britain and other western powers into Afghanistan in the wake of the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks in New York pushed Kabul into a new phase of instability and chaos that would last twenty years before President Biden announced a precipitate departure from the country in August 2021. Afghanistan simply fell like a ripe fruit back into the hands of the Taliban. The ramifications are today only too obvious: the Soviet and US-led invasions of Afghanistan have left the country a wasteland over which medieval barbarism rules in the shape of the Taliban. Kabul's sovereignty was crushed in those two invasions. And when one observes Iraq, whose sovereignty was brutally undercut by the US and Britain in 2003 on the basis of a lie about Saddam Hussein's possession of weapons of mass destruction, it is a broken country riven by sectarian conflict which has not been able to reclaim its self-esteem.

In the course of the Second World War (WW2), Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler together engineered the destruction of the independent state of Poland, an act which reflected the impunity with which leaders of dominant states went into ruining lives in countries they intended to claim for themselves or destroy. Add to that the Nazi invasions of France and other countries in Europe, militarism which would eventually leave a world in ruins. When nations violate the sovereignty of other nations, it is the floodgates to larger disasters that are thrown open. One could speak here of the brutality with which the Soviet Union, in 1956, crushed Imre Nagy's rebellion in Hungary.

Budapest clearly wanted out of the communist system imposed on eastern Europe in the aftermath of the Second World War, but Stalin's successors would have none of it. The Soviet action only added to a deepening of the Cold War. In conditions similar to 1956, the Soviet Union and other Warsaw Pact powers sent in tanks and armoured vehicles into Prague to demolish Alexander Dubcek's Prague Spring in 1968. Gustav Husak, installed in office by Leonid Brezhnev, would be condemned to presiding over a Soviet vassal state until a movement more successful than Dubcek's, that led by Vaclav Havel, would send communism packing in Czechoslovakia.

There have been invasions that have aroused ridicule among observers of global politics around the world. Ronald Reagan's invasion of Granada, in alliance with six Caribbean countries, in 1983 did little to enhance respect for Washington, which had already paid a price for its policy in Vietnam and its invasion of Cambodia in the Nixon-Kissinger years. Any invasion of a sovereign country often leaves reputations in tatters. Henry Kissinger was never able to outlive the opprobrium associated with the Cambodia invasion in 1970.

The military in Indonesia, led by General Suharto, invaded East Timor in late 1975 and kept the country under brutal occupation till Jakarta was forced to relinquish its hold and have East Timor, today's Timor Leste, emerge once again as an independent state. The occupation of East Timor will be remembered as a dark moment in the history of the Indonesian military, which also must grapple with the record of the serious human rights violations it engaged in following the fall of President Ahmed Sukarno from power.

Turkey's invasion of Cyprus in 1974 effectively destroyed any chance of a resolution of the conflict on the island between Greek-Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. The island remains divided, with two administrations operating in their separate patches of territory. Closer to our times, the invasion of Ukraine by Russia has caused a crisis which has affected almost the entire globe. While Moscow and Kyiv fight it out, it is the economies of nations dependent on oil and food imports and exports which take the brunt of the crisis. Vladimir Putin, for all his worries about Nato getting closer to his country's borders, clearly made a mistake when he decided to launch an assault on Ukraine. The crisis is now one where Putin cannot win and a situation where the West will not have Volodymyr Zelenskyy lose.

Israel's battering of Lebanon raises the uncomfortable question: Are invasions and bombardments of sovereign nations by aggressor-states now fast acquiring legitimacy? The next question follows: Is a rules-based international order now obsolete, with entities like the United Nations (UN) as helpless as was the League of Nations prior to 1939?​
 

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