Maybe part of the reason.
The main reason is that they are American.
And America is an enemy state ...
World AffairsThe main reason is that they are American.
And America is an enemy state ...
Call them man.Look at the ISI handles over there telling the iranis daily to dump India for Pakistan/ China.....lol
Aur jhoott pe jhoott k how Indians have been caught in Iran spying for Mossad!......
As if Indians ko pagal kuttay ne kaatta hae for them to even bother getting involved.
jhoottay ilzaam left n right! Not a single indian has been arrested in Iran for spying.
How da fukk Iranis put up with nonsense over there beats me.
We should call them all here. There's gotta be a way.
Let the admins of both forums have an understanding.
Same crowd hi to hai.
Fkn most inbred community on earth. Desi defence forum crowd
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'War is done': Trump says US and Iranian officials will meet next week
US President Donald Trump has said that officials from the United States and Iran are expected to meet next week, in what could mark the resumption of diplomatic engagement following recent hostilities between Tehran and Israel, Al Jazeera reported. “I’ll tell you what, we’re goi
'War is done': Trump says US and Iranian officials will meet next week
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Jun 25, 2025 21:08
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Jun 25, 2025 21:08
Iran's and US' flags are seen printed on paper in this illustration taken January 27, 2022. Photo : REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration
US President Donald Trump has said that officials from the United States and Iran are expected to meet next week, in what could mark the resumption of diplomatic engagement following recent hostilities between Tehran and Israel, Al Jazeera reported.
“I’ll tell you what, we’re going to talk with them next week, with Iran. We may sign an agreement, I don’t know,” Trump was quoted as saying during a press conference at the NATO summit held in the Netherlands.
Trump reportedly suggested he was not particularly keen on restarting negotiations with Tehran, asserting that recent US strikes had destroyed Iran’s nuclear programme.
“The way I look at it—they fought, the war is done,” he was quoted as saying.
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Jun 25, 2025 21:08
Updated :
Jun 25, 2025 21:08
Iran's and US' flags are seen printed on paper in this illustration taken January 27, 2022. Photo : REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration
US President Donald Trump has said that officials from the United States and Iran are expected to meet next week, in what could mark the resumption of diplomatic engagement following recent hostilities between Tehran and Israel, Al Jazeera reported.
“I’ll tell you what, we’re going to talk with them next week, with Iran. We may sign an agreement, I don’t know,” Trump was quoted as saying during a press conference at the NATO summit held in the Netherlands.
Trump reportedly suggested he was not particularly keen on restarting negotiations with Tehran, asserting that recent US strikes had destroyed Iran’s nuclear programme.
“The way I look at it—they fought, the war is done,” he was quoted as saying.
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Iranian military chief Shadmani dies of wounds from Israeli strikes: State media
The head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards command centre, Ali Shadmani, died of wounds sustained during Israel's military strikes on the country, Iranian state media said on Wednesday. The gurads' command centre vowed "harsh revenge" for his killing, state media added. Israel's armed forces had sai
Iranian military chief Shadmani dies of wounds from Israeli strikes: State media
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Jun 25, 2025 23:39
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Jun 25, 2025 23:39
The head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards command centre, Ali Shadmani, died of wounds sustained during Israel's military strikes on the country, Iranian state media said on Wednesday.
The gurads' command centre vowed "harsh revenge" for his killing, state media added.
Israel's armed forces had said on Jun 17 that it killed Shadmani, who it identified as Iran’s wartime chief of staff and most senior military commander.
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Jun 25, 2025 23:39
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Jun 25, 2025 23:39
The head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards command centre, Ali Shadmani, died of wounds sustained during Israel's military strikes on the country, Iranian state media said on Wednesday.
The gurads' command centre vowed "harsh revenge" for his killing, state media added.
Israel's armed forces had said on Jun 17 that it killed Shadmani, who it identified as Iran’s wartime chief of staff and most senior military commander.
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Will Israel-Iran ceasefire sustain?
US President Donald Trump's involvement in the Israel-Iran war with the largest ever B-2 bomber fleet to bust Iranian nuclear facilities on June 21 and brokering of a ceasefire two days later could not be more contrasting. But this goes well with the capricious character of the incumbent US preside
Will Israel-Iran ceasefire sustain?
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Jun 25, 2025 23:51
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Jun 25, 2025 23:51
US President Donald Trump's involvement in the Israel-Iran war with the largest ever B-2 bomber fleet to bust Iranian nuclear facilities on June 21 and brokering of a ceasefire two days later could not be more contrasting. But this goes well with the capricious character of the incumbent US president. The swaggering president appears to consider himself the lord of all he surveys. This is exactly why he can deliver, as aptly expressed in a Bangla proverb, the deadly bite of a venomous snake and also aid the bitten victim with the antidote. However, the self-righteous president does all this to exhibit his supremacy to the world. Unsurprisingly, the ceasefire was dictated by him only before his arrival in the Netherlands for the annual North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) meeting so that he could brag over the 'war for peace' initiative and impress the European members. Thus he even assumed the big brotherly role of rebuking both Israel and Iran on arrival in the Netherlands for minor breach of truce he has brokered.
A fragile ceasefire agreement after 12 days of war is certainly welcome. But the question is if it will hold and bring the warring parties to the negotiating table. At times, warring parties/party agree/agrees to a ceasefire in order to buy time for rearming or further preparation. The Jewish state did it at the time of its conflict with the Hamas before launching more intensive attacks on Gaza. In the war with Iran, Israel made it clear that it had the dual objectives of bringing an end to Iran's nuclear arsenal capabilities and a regime change. Trump, however, declares he had no intention of changing the Iranian regime but was dead set to obliterate the nuclear facilities on the verge of producing weapons of mass destruction.
Although US intelligence report has so far held that Iranian nuclear facilities were not engaged in production of nuclear weapons, Trump refuted the claim only to side with Israel and made the bunker-buster attacks at three key Iranian facilities. Even then his claim of total obliteration of those nuclear facilities has been contradicted by independent sources. The stock of enriched uranium in Iran was transported elsewhere before the B-2 bomber attack. Will the US and Iran resume negotiation on the future of Iranian nuclear programmes? There is no answer. Even more important it is to bring about a permanent peace in Palestine where the Israeli genocide and occupation are the source of an unending regional turmoil.
There are other pressing issues concerning the Israeli aggression on Iran. Will the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) be assigned to carry out an investigation to determine whether Iran's nuclear programme was for peaceful purposes or not? If it is found that the programme was nowhere near achieving the military capability, will there be a trial of the crime of killing of a number of Iranian nuclear scientists and top brass military personnel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ)? No amount of reparation is enough for human lives let alone those of the nuclear scientists, highest ranking military officers and innocent civilians. Damage to property and infrastructure is also extensive. Meanwhile the killing in Gaza strip continues and it should stop. The international community should press for a permanent solution to the Palestinian issue by recognising the people's sovereign statehood in their own land including the Israeli occupied areas in West Bank and Gaza strip.
Published :
Jun 25, 2025 23:51
Updated :
Jun 25, 2025 23:51
US President Donald Trump's involvement in the Israel-Iran war with the largest ever B-2 bomber fleet to bust Iranian nuclear facilities on June 21 and brokering of a ceasefire two days later could not be more contrasting. But this goes well with the capricious character of the incumbent US president. The swaggering president appears to consider himself the lord of all he surveys. This is exactly why he can deliver, as aptly expressed in a Bangla proverb, the deadly bite of a venomous snake and also aid the bitten victim with the antidote. However, the self-righteous president does all this to exhibit his supremacy to the world. Unsurprisingly, the ceasefire was dictated by him only before his arrival in the Netherlands for the annual North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) meeting so that he could brag over the 'war for peace' initiative and impress the European members. Thus he even assumed the big brotherly role of rebuking both Israel and Iran on arrival in the Netherlands for minor breach of truce he has brokered.
A fragile ceasefire agreement after 12 days of war is certainly welcome. But the question is if it will hold and bring the warring parties to the negotiating table. At times, warring parties/party agree/agrees to a ceasefire in order to buy time for rearming or further preparation. The Jewish state did it at the time of its conflict with the Hamas before launching more intensive attacks on Gaza. In the war with Iran, Israel made it clear that it had the dual objectives of bringing an end to Iran's nuclear arsenal capabilities and a regime change. Trump, however, declares he had no intention of changing the Iranian regime but was dead set to obliterate the nuclear facilities on the verge of producing weapons of mass destruction.
Although US intelligence report has so far held that Iranian nuclear facilities were not engaged in production of nuclear weapons, Trump refuted the claim only to side with Israel and made the bunker-buster attacks at three key Iranian facilities. Even then his claim of total obliteration of those nuclear facilities has been contradicted by independent sources. The stock of enriched uranium in Iran was transported elsewhere before the B-2 bomber attack. Will the US and Iran resume negotiation on the future of Iranian nuclear programmes? There is no answer. Even more important it is to bring about a permanent peace in Palestine where the Israeli genocide and occupation are the source of an unending regional turmoil.
There are other pressing issues concerning the Israeli aggression on Iran. Will the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) be assigned to carry out an investigation to determine whether Iran's nuclear programme was for peaceful purposes or not? If it is found that the programme was nowhere near achieving the military capability, will there be a trial of the crime of killing of a number of Iranian nuclear scientists and top brass military personnel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ)? No amount of reparation is enough for human lives let alone those of the nuclear scientists, highest ranking military officers and innocent civilians. Damage to property and infrastructure is also extensive. Meanwhile the killing in Gaza strip continues and it should stop. The international community should press for a permanent solution to the Palestinian issue by recognising the people's sovereign statehood in their own land including the Israeli occupied areas in West Bank and Gaza strip.
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The lights must not go out in Tehran
In depressing clarity, the rules-based international order we have long known or spoken of has been crumbling around us. As the ferocity of the attacks on Iran by Israel and the United States (US) has so conclusively shown, the world is today a place imperilled, defined by danger it is not in our p
The lights must not go out in Tehran
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Jun 25, 2025 23:47
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A street view is pictured after a ceasefire between Iran and Israel took effect in Tehran, Iran, on June 24, 2025 —Xinhua Photo
In depressing clarity, the rules-based international order we have long known or spoken of has been crumbling around us. As the ferocity of the attacks on Iran by Israel and the United States (US) has so conclusively shown, the world is today a place imperilled, defined by danger it is not in our power to roll back.
The sovereignty of nations, an idea sacrosanct and therefore inviolable, has been given short shrift through the deadly strikes on places considered to be the centres of Iran's nuclear power. Iran is today a weakened nation. That it has yet refused to yield to the fury of Israeli-American power is much to be remarked on. Iran's has been a proud civilisation for centuries. It is now that pride which is in grave danger.
So there has been a tearing up of the rules-based international order. Who made the rules? And who violated them with impunity? Israel and its friends have been aghast at an Iranian strike on an Israeli hospital. Israeli politicians have loudly proclaimed that Iran's spiritual leader Ali Khameini has no right to exist. One would think Tehran has committed a grievous wrong by flying its missiles into that hospital, and one would be right to agree.
But then comes the moment when hypocrisy stares you in the face. In its barbaric assaults on Gaza, Israel has cheerfully bombed hospitals into rubble, homes into the stone age. Now when one Israeli hospital has been hit by an Iranian missile, Netanyahu and his friends are outraged. The world, now operating without rules, does not remind them of the crimes they have committed and still commit in Gaza.
That criminality has now expanded to an operation aimed at destroying Iran and bringing to fruition that abominable term, 'regime change'. Sit back and reflect somewhat on the sufferings of nations subjected to regime change in this first quarter of the 21st century. Afghanistan is a barren land today because of what the Soviet Union and then the Americans and their allies did to it.
Iraq passed into medieval darkness when George W. Bush and Tony Blair invented a lie and sent their forces into Baghdad to remove Saddam Hussein from power. NATO had no time to respect international law when it decided that Muammar Gaddafi had to go. Syria has borne the brunt of outsider intrigue, this abomination --- let's say it loud and clear --- called regime change.
Men itching to go to war against self-respecting nations are unstoppable. Note, if you are not too shocked, how they operate with impunity. In 2003, two hubristic men decided that Iraq must be subdued through an illegal invasion. They achieved their sinister objective and no one demanded that they be brought to trial, that they be charged with war crimes. But should one be surprised? In the aftermath of the Second World War, German and Japanese war criminals were brought to justice in Nuremberg and Tokyo. They were swiftly despatched to their graves.
And yet the criminality of Harry Truman and his administration --- they dropped the atomic bomb, two of them, over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember? --- has been pushed under the rug. And we now have before us again the unedifying spectacle of two men, Trump and Netanyahu, doing everything they can to reduce the planet to an inferno. Somehow images of the ancient Vikings wreaking havoc in the lives of those at peace rise out of the mist in your pained heart.
Do we sympathise with the ayatollahs in Tehran? The question is irrelevant, for the ayatollahs and indeed all Iranians have since the overthrow of the Shah upheld their self-esteem, the dignity of their nation before the world. At a time when governments in Muslim or Muslim-dominated countries have been careful not to be critical of Tel Aviv and Washington, Iranians have demonstrated their intrinsic ability to respect themselves, to speak up against leaders in alien lands unable to appreciate the power of assertive nations.
Iran is a civilisation which has remained unbowed before predatory global powers across the generations. And so it must be brought to heel. Its nuclear programme must be blown to pieces. Its beautiful towns and villages must be torched by stealth bombing in the night by the orders of provincial politicians in distant Washington and closer to home Tel Aviv.
Qasem Suleimani became a martyr not long ago. In recent weeks, other Iranian generals and the country's scientists have perished in the aggression perpetrated by the Trump-Netanyahu machine. Which raises the old spectre of how earlier American administrations appropriated the right to bomb, for years on end, the beautiful country of Vietnam. The Nixon-Kissinger team had no qualms about bombing Cambodia and clearing the path for the Khmer Rouge to take over.
America's wars have been self-defeating and yet America has found new pretexts for new wars every few years. And this time the world is confronted with the horror of the murder machine of Israel leading the Trump juggernaut into war against Iran. Together the Israelis and the Americans have been unloading their bombs on Iran. They are mighty happy, in the macabre manner of bullies pouncing on the innocent at the bend of the road.
Ah, the demise of the rules-based global order. Israel can have its atomic bomb, both India and Pakistan can have their own bombs, North Korea will not be disturbed over its ownership of its own nuclear bombs. But Iran? Because it speaks up for Palestinian rights, because it refuses to pay obeisance to the world's remaining superpower and its homicidal friend in the form of Israel, it must pay the price.
Iranians paid the price in the early 1950s when the CIA, with Britain's complicity, engineered the return of the deposed young Shah to the throne and used its money and its influence to show Mohammad Mosaddegh, the nationalist leader Iranians remember as a heroic figure, the door. The Shah, profligacy and brutality underpinning his character, kept Iran in his grip for years. Washington, with its CIA, kept him happy in his palace.
Until Iranians took to the streets in 1978, forcing the Shah to flee in early 1979. Have the ayatollahs governed well? They have presided over a theocratic political system; they have kept a leash on freedom of expression; they have subjected women to repression; they have curbed dissent. All of these are harsh truths.
The more consequential truth is that, till this point, the ayatollahs have kept Iran safe from the grasping hands of its enemies. Iran has repeatedly impressed the world with its ability to deflect the poisoned arrows hurled at it by those who would destroy it. Its leaders have preserved its heritage and its history. Its poetry and its spirituality have been its weapons in the defence of its territorial integrity and its claim on history.
Iran will survive. It must survive. If it falls, if that dark moment comes to pass, all the lights everywhere across the planet will go out. The lamp must remain aglow in Tehran.
Syed Badrul Ahsan
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Jun 25, 2025 23:47
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Jun 25, 2025 23:47
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A street view is pictured after a ceasefire between Iran and Israel took effect in Tehran, Iran, on June 24, 2025 —Xinhua Photo
In depressing clarity, the rules-based international order we have long known or spoken of has been crumbling around us. As the ferocity of the attacks on Iran by Israel and the United States (US) has so conclusively shown, the world is today a place imperilled, defined by danger it is not in our power to roll back.
The sovereignty of nations, an idea sacrosanct and therefore inviolable, has been given short shrift through the deadly strikes on places considered to be the centres of Iran's nuclear power. Iran is today a weakened nation. That it has yet refused to yield to the fury of Israeli-American power is much to be remarked on. Iran's has been a proud civilisation for centuries. It is now that pride which is in grave danger.
So there has been a tearing up of the rules-based international order. Who made the rules? And who violated them with impunity? Israel and its friends have been aghast at an Iranian strike on an Israeli hospital. Israeli politicians have loudly proclaimed that Iran's spiritual leader Ali Khameini has no right to exist. One would think Tehran has committed a grievous wrong by flying its missiles into that hospital, and one would be right to agree.
But then comes the moment when hypocrisy stares you in the face. In its barbaric assaults on Gaza, Israel has cheerfully bombed hospitals into rubble, homes into the stone age. Now when one Israeli hospital has been hit by an Iranian missile, Netanyahu and his friends are outraged. The world, now operating without rules, does not remind them of the crimes they have committed and still commit in Gaza.
That criminality has now expanded to an operation aimed at destroying Iran and bringing to fruition that abominable term, 'regime change'. Sit back and reflect somewhat on the sufferings of nations subjected to regime change in this first quarter of the 21st century. Afghanistan is a barren land today because of what the Soviet Union and then the Americans and their allies did to it.
Iraq passed into medieval darkness when George W. Bush and Tony Blair invented a lie and sent their forces into Baghdad to remove Saddam Hussein from power. NATO had no time to respect international law when it decided that Muammar Gaddafi had to go. Syria has borne the brunt of outsider intrigue, this abomination --- let's say it loud and clear --- called regime change.
Men itching to go to war against self-respecting nations are unstoppable. Note, if you are not too shocked, how they operate with impunity. In 2003, two hubristic men decided that Iraq must be subdued through an illegal invasion. They achieved their sinister objective and no one demanded that they be brought to trial, that they be charged with war crimes. But should one be surprised? In the aftermath of the Second World War, German and Japanese war criminals were brought to justice in Nuremberg and Tokyo. They were swiftly despatched to their graves.
And yet the criminality of Harry Truman and his administration --- they dropped the atomic bomb, two of them, over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember? --- has been pushed under the rug. And we now have before us again the unedifying spectacle of two men, Trump and Netanyahu, doing everything they can to reduce the planet to an inferno. Somehow images of the ancient Vikings wreaking havoc in the lives of those at peace rise out of the mist in your pained heart.
Do we sympathise with the ayatollahs in Tehran? The question is irrelevant, for the ayatollahs and indeed all Iranians have since the overthrow of the Shah upheld their self-esteem, the dignity of their nation before the world. At a time when governments in Muslim or Muslim-dominated countries have been careful not to be critical of Tel Aviv and Washington, Iranians have demonstrated their intrinsic ability to respect themselves, to speak up against leaders in alien lands unable to appreciate the power of assertive nations.
Iran is a civilisation which has remained unbowed before predatory global powers across the generations. And so it must be brought to heel. Its nuclear programme must be blown to pieces. Its beautiful towns and villages must be torched by stealth bombing in the night by the orders of provincial politicians in distant Washington and closer to home Tel Aviv.
Qasem Suleimani became a martyr not long ago. In recent weeks, other Iranian generals and the country's scientists have perished in the aggression perpetrated by the Trump-Netanyahu machine. Which raises the old spectre of how earlier American administrations appropriated the right to bomb, for years on end, the beautiful country of Vietnam. The Nixon-Kissinger team had no qualms about bombing Cambodia and clearing the path for the Khmer Rouge to take over.
America's wars have been self-defeating and yet America has found new pretexts for new wars every few years. And this time the world is confronted with the horror of the murder machine of Israel leading the Trump juggernaut into war against Iran. Together the Israelis and the Americans have been unloading their bombs on Iran. They are mighty happy, in the macabre manner of bullies pouncing on the innocent at the bend of the road.
Ah, the demise of the rules-based global order. Israel can have its atomic bomb, both India and Pakistan can have their own bombs, North Korea will not be disturbed over its ownership of its own nuclear bombs. But Iran? Because it speaks up for Palestinian rights, because it refuses to pay obeisance to the world's remaining superpower and its homicidal friend in the form of Israel, it must pay the price.
Iranians paid the price in the early 1950s when the CIA, with Britain's complicity, engineered the return of the deposed young Shah to the throne and used its money and its influence to show Mohammad Mosaddegh, the nationalist leader Iranians remember as a heroic figure, the door. The Shah, profligacy and brutality underpinning his character, kept Iran in his grip for years. Washington, with its CIA, kept him happy in his palace.
Until Iranians took to the streets in 1978, forcing the Shah to flee in early 1979. Have the ayatollahs governed well? They have presided over a theocratic political system; they have kept a leash on freedom of expression; they have subjected women to repression; they have curbed dissent. All of these are harsh truths.
The more consequential truth is that, till this point, the ayatollahs have kept Iran safe from the grasping hands of its enemies. Iran has repeatedly impressed the world with its ability to deflect the poisoned arrows hurled at it by those who would destroy it. Its leaders have preserved its heritage and its history. Its poetry and its spirituality have been its weapons in the defence of its territorial integrity and its claim on history.
Iran will survive. It must survive. If it falls, if that dark moment comes to pass, all the lights everywhere across the planet will go out. The lamp must remain aglow in Tehran.
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Russia says it is too early to assess US bomb damage to Iranian nuclear facilities
The Kremlin said on Wednesday that it thought it was too early for anyone to have an accurate picture of the extent of damage inflicted on Iran's nuclear facilities by US bombing last weekend. Asked if Russia had its own information on the degree of damage, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "N
Russia says it is too early to assess US bomb damage to Iranian nuclear facilities
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Jun 25, 2025 16:23
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Jun 25, 2025 16:23
A view shows the Kremlin in central Moscow, Russia, February 13, 2025. Photo : REUTERS/Maxim Shemetov/ Files
The Kremlin said on Wednesday that it thought it was too early for anyone to have an accurate picture of the extent of damage inflicted on Iran's nuclear facilities by US bombing last weekend.
Asked if Russia had its own information on the degree of damage, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "No. I don't think that anyone can have realistic data now. It's probably too early, we need to wait until such data appears."
US President Donald Trump said at the weekend that the strikes had "obliterated" Iran's nuclear facilities.
However, three sources with knowledge of the matter told Reuters that a preliminary US intelligence assessment had determined that the attacks had set back Tehran's programme by only a matter of months.
Russia has condemned the strikes on Iran, with which it signed a strategic cooperation agreement in January, as illegal, unjustified and unprovoked.
Peskov said Russia had indications that there were open communications channels between Washington and Tehran, adding that Moscow was closely monitoring developments and still talking to Iran itself.
REUTERS
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Jun 25, 2025 16:23
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Jun 25, 2025 16:23
A view shows the Kremlin in central Moscow, Russia, February 13, 2025. Photo : REUTERS/Maxim Shemetov/ Files
The Kremlin said on Wednesday that it thought it was too early for anyone to have an accurate picture of the extent of damage inflicted on Iran's nuclear facilities by US bombing last weekend.
Asked if Russia had its own information on the degree of damage, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "No. I don't think that anyone can have realistic data now. It's probably too early, we need to wait until such data appears."
US President Donald Trump said at the weekend that the strikes had "obliterated" Iran's nuclear facilities.
However, three sources with knowledge of the matter told Reuters that a preliminary US intelligence assessment had determined that the attacks had set back Tehran's programme by only a matter of months.
Russia has condemned the strikes on Iran, with which it signed a strategic cooperation agreement in January, as illegal, unjustified and unprovoked.
Peskov said Russia had indications that there were open communications channels between Washington and Tehran, adding that Moscow was closely monitoring developments and still talking to Iran itself.
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