[🇮🇷] Iran's "Operation Truthful Promise - وعده صادق" on Israel : Live Coverage

[4MikeEcho]

I would like to believe this but none of us can be sure the actual extent of the damage. The Israelis for sure will never admit as it would give validity to which of the projectiles got through.

And the Iranians for their part of have a carefully calibrated response for which they sent ample warning 48 hours before and then launch motorcycle drones that almost guaranteed the coordinated arrival time of the ballistic missiles, will not want to advertise so as not to let the situation escalate. This is an unusual situation that even an attacker will not admit the damage.

Unless by some miracle , open source information surfaces, we will not know for sure, but we do know that it took US, Israel, and the traitor Jordanians full coordination to prevent against a well announced attack.

I doubt 3-4 warheads are enough to put an air base out of commission. But if 3-4 could get through then in a well meaning surprise attack, 35 may get through and cause some realistic damage.

Would Israel been as successful on its own is unknown?

What is also known is if you throw enough surface to surface, even when enemy is expecting it, some will make it through

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[4MikeEcho]

By posting, I am not endorsing this source, but even Israeli press is admitting both bases were hit and infrastructure and an aircraft damaged.

They claim that only 1% of missiles made it. May or may not be true.

But one take away I have is that while Iran is telling the US that its trying to avoid fighting the US and any assistance to Israel would mean retaliation, I think its more intended towards the neigbhors.

If Israeli aircraft cross Jordan and Jordan allows it, then Amman had better be ready. And if they overfly Saudi Arabia, then Saudis better be ready. And neither of these countries will have the protective umbrella (or the warning) that Israel had so it will be a 90% success rate of the projectiles.

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U.S. Reports: Half of Iranian Ballistic Missiles Failed, Aircraft Damaged in Israeli Air Force Base; UAE, Saudis Shared Intel[
U.S. officials told ABC News and the Wall Street Journal that five ballistic missiles hit the southern Nevatim Air Base, damaging a transport plane, and four hit another base. Under U.S. pressure, UAE and Saudi Arabia shared Iran's attack plans before strike
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The Nevatim Air Force base in southern Israel, on Sunday.Credit: Eliyahu Hershkovitz

HaaretzReutersThe Associated Press

Apr 15, 2024 1:38 pm IDT


Two Israeli air bases were struck by at least nine Iranian missiles that penetrated Israel's air defense systems, causing damage to one transport plane, a senior U.S. official told ABC News on Monday.

Five ballistic missiles hit the southern Nevatim Air Base, the official said, damaging a C-130 transport plane, an unused runway and empty warehouses. Four additional ballistic missiles struck the Negev Air Base, but no significant damage was reported, he added.


According to the official, many Iranian ballistic missiles launched at Israel did not reach their destination, either due to failing during launch or malfunctioning during flight.


Similar claims were made by three U.S. officials, who told the Wall Street Journal on Monday that about half of all ballistic missiles fired at Israel - between 115 and 130 - failed to launch or crashed before reaching their targets.



According to another Wall Street Journal report, also from Monday, two days before attacking Israel, Iranian officials informed their counterparts in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states about the planned offensive so that they could protect their airspace.


Egyptian and Saudi Arabian sources that spoke with the Wall Street Journal, said that several Arab governments feared that assisting Israel would result in a fallout with Iran, but following talks with the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates secretly agreed to share their intelligence.


The report also said that Jordan allowed use of its airspace by the U.S. and other countries involved in the defensive, and also used its own aircraft to assist in intercepting Iranian missiles and drones.



U.S. forces, supported by U.S. European Command destroyers, destroyed more than 80 one-way attack drones and at least six ballistic missiles aimed at Israel from Iran and Yemenovernight into Sunday, the U.S. Central Command said on Monday.



This includes a ballistic missile on its launcher vehicle and seven UAVs destroyed on the ground prior to their launch in areas controlled by Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, CENTCOM said.

On Sunday, the IDF spokesperson said on Sunday that 99 percent of all drones and rockets Iran launched at Israel, including 120 ballistic missiles and more than 30 cruise missiles, were intercepted by Israel's air defense system and Israeli Air Force fighter jets, as well as "aerial defense systems and aircraft of our partners."


The attack marked the first time Iran has launched a direct military assault on Israel, despite decades of enmity dating back to the country's 1979 Islamic Revolution. Condemnation from the United Nations chief and others was swift, with France saying Iran "is risking a potential military escalation," Britain calling the attack "reckless" and Germany saying Iran and its proxies "must stop it immediately."


Iran had vowed revenge since an April 1 airstrike in Syria killed two Iranian generals inside an Iranian consular building. Iran accused Israel of being behind the attack. Israel hasn't commented on it.

Israel and Iran have been on a collision course throughout Israel's six-month war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Almost immediately after the war erupted, Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed group in Lebanon, began attacking Israel's northern border. The two sides have been involved in daily exchanges of fire, while Iranian-backed groups in Iraq, Syria and Yemen have launched rockets and missiles toward Israel

 

[Saif]

Response to Iran’s attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options

Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran’s weekend missile and drone attack.

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Response to Iran's attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options
Considers hurting Iran without all-out war amid pressure from allies

Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran's weekend missile and drone attack.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu summoned his war cabinet for the second time in less than 24 hours, a government source said. Two senior officials signalled on Sunday that retaliation was not imminent and Israel would not act alone but the results of yesterday's talks were not yet known.

Israel's military chief of staff said the country would respond to the Iranian attack.

"This launch of so many missiles, cruise missiles, and drones into Israeli territory will be met with a response," Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi said, speaking from the Nevatim air force base in southern Israel, which sustained some damage in the attack.

Israel's Channel 12 news reported that Israel's war cabinet discussed a range of options at the second meeting to hurt Iran for its attack on Israel but without causing an all-out war.

Iran's attack - made in retaliation for a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Damascus - has increased fears of open warfare between Israel and Iran and heightened concerns that violence rooted in the Gaza war is spreading further in the region.

Wary of the dangers, President Joe Biden has told Netanyahu the United States will not take part in any Israeli counter-offensive against Iran.

In his 25-minute call to Netanyahu on Sunday, Biden suggested that further response by Israel was "unnecessary".

Since the start of Israel's war in Gaza on Oct 7, clashes have erupted between Israel and Iran-aligned groups in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq. Israel said four of its soldiers were wounded hundreds of metres inside Lebanese territory overnight.

"We're on the edge of the cliff and we have to move away from it," Josep Borrell, the European Union's foreign affairs chief, told Spanish radio station Onda Cero. "We have to step on the brakes and reverse gear."

French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and British Foreign Secretary David Cameron made similar appeals. Washington and United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres have also issued calls for restraint.

Countries including France, Belgium and Germany summoned the Iranian ambassadors. The French foreign ministry said France was working with its partners to de-escalate the situation.

Russia has refrained from criticising its ally Iran in public over the strikes but expressed concern about the risk of escalation on Monday and also called for restraint.

"Further escalation is in no one's interests," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

Iran mounted the attack in response to a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Syria on April 1 that killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers, including two senior commanders.

Its attack, involving more than 300 missiles and drones, caused only modest damage in Israel and no deaths. Most were shot down by Israel's Iron Dome defence system and with help from the US, Britain, France and Jordan.

In Washington, Biden reiterated US commitment to Israel's security ahead of a meeting with Iraq's Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the Group of Seven major democracies were working on a package of coordinated measures against Iran.

"I spoke to my fellow G7 leaders, we are united in our condemnation of this attack," Sunak said in parliament.

Italy, which holds the rotating presidency of the G7, said it was open to new sanctions against individuals engaged against Israel.

In an interview with Reuters, Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said new sanctions would need the backing of all the G7. He suggested any new measures would be focused on individuals rather than whole nations.

Asian shares fell and gold prices rose yesterday as risk sentiment took a hit. But oil prices dipped and Israel's shekel rose against the dollar after the comments by two senior Israeli officials - Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and centrist minister Benny Gantz - suggesting an Israeli response was not imminent.

Iran's attack has caused travel disruption, with at least a dozen airlines cancelling or rerouting flights, and Europe's aviation regulator reaffirming advice to airlines to use caution in Israeli and Iranian airspace.

Israel remained on high alert, but authorities lifted some emergency measures that had included a ban on some school activities and caps on large gatherings.

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said Tehran had informed the United States that the attack on Israel would be limited and for self-defence, and that regional neighbours had been informed of the planned strikes 72 hours in advance.

White House national security spokesperson John Kirby yesterday told reporters that the United States did exchange messages with Iran but that there were never any messages regarding Iran's timeframe or targets for its weekend attack.

Kirby would not be drawn into explaining what the messages were about. He said that reports suggesting Iran tipped off the United States about its plans were "categorically false" and "malarkey."

Turkish, Jordanian and Iraqi officials said on Sunday that Iran gave wide notice days before its drone and missile attack on Israel.

In the first-ever attack against Israeli territory, Iran launched more than 300 drones and missiles towards Israel.

The attack included 170 drones and 30 cruise missiles, none of which entered Israeli territory, and at least 110 ballistic missiles, of which a small number reached Israel, military spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said in a televised statement.

At least nine countries were involved in the military escalation - with projectiles fired from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and downed by Israel, the US, the UK and Jordan.

The shortest distance from Iran to Israel is about 1,000km (620 miles) across Iraq, Syria and Jordan.

Since most of the projectiles came from relatively far away, Israel was able to send F-35 stealth fighters to intercept them. The IDF said that 25 of the 30 cruise missiles sent by Iran were shot down outside the country.

Two US officials told the BBC's US partner CBS news that five ballistic missiles evaded air defences and impacted Israeli territory.

Four of them "lightly hit" the Nevatim air force base in the Negev desert in southern Israel, said Israeli sources.

Of the 120 ballistic missiles fired by Iran, about half of them failed on launch or crashed mid-flight, one of the officials told CBS.

Experts said Israel may use this attack as an excuse to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. They also said Netanyahu has an incentive to keep hostilities going, as it fends off the collapse of his razor-thin coalition and new elections.

The attack has also for now distracted global attention from Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. Furthermore, the Iranian attack is also likely to dispel murmurs in the US Congress about curbing weapons supplies to Israel because of Gaza, they said.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Yes because of the price. As you probably already mentioned.

Yaar these turkish UAV's are great for use against da talibunny or balochi terror outfits. No doubt......but against India, they'd be shot down in under 2 minutes if they go anywhere near the Indo-pak borders. I know we are backward in modern military technology, and I seriously wonder how useful/ feasible is the acquisition of these turkish drones. Chinese drones to aik dum lunn hain. All them CH-4's n Wingh Lhoongs and whatnot.....total junk.....I mean do rupay waalay chappairr and they'd be shot down. We seriously need to quit buying Chinese weapons. Our Ghauri/ Ghaznavi/ Nasr/ Shahin, its all junk and you know it. Just like our shitful F-sola......Total junk......Do mintt nahi zinda rehna hamaray weapons nay against Israel. Our military is just a pushover.

 

[Old School]

Political scientist Marat Bashirov correctly spotted that Israel so long dominated... it was due to the presence of nuclear weapons, which "officially" Israel does not have... If Iran attacked Israel from its territory for the first time in history... means that Iran "officially" does not have nuclear weapons, but now it does. It is clear that, like Israel, Iran is now also practicing "nuclear ambiguity." Two strikes against two nuke powers in a short time- Pakistan and Israel. Iran would not do it without having nukes themselves.

 

[Lulldapull]

Political scientist Marat Bashirov correctly spotted that Israel so long dominated... it was due to the presence of nuclear weapons, which "officially" Israel does not have... If Iran attacked Israel from its territory for the first time in history... means that Iran "officially" does not have nuclear weapons, but now it does. It is clear that, like Israel, Iran is now also practicing "nuclear ambiguity."

Just like how da talibunny moved in a huge swarm of 20k around Kabul and da US fled in under a week, despite Biden sahb giving assurances dat 'all is whell'..... .....using dem tunnels Iran's goin be in Jerusalem in two days flat out!......with a 100k soldiers willing to fight to da death. Do mint main putloon utaar deni hae iranio nay. This whole thing is a joke along da lines of a big force like taking over greater Karachi for example..........Netanyahu sahb knows its game over. The only thing preventing dis is the threat of Christy X-tian apocalyptic Armageddon jihadists pouring in from da west in their tens of thousands as NATO/ ISAF to save their Maseeha/ Dajaal jhootta fairytale isstory mazhab......

 

[Old School]

Just like how da talibunny moved in a huge swarm of 20k around Kabul and da US fled in under a week, despite Biden sahb giving assurances dat 'all is whell'..... .....using dem tunnels Iran's goin be in Jerusalem in two days flat out!......with a 100k soldiers willing to fight to da death. Do mint main putloon utaar deni hae iranio nay. This whole thing is a joke along da lines of a big force like taking over greater Karachi for example..........Netanyahu sahb knows its game over. The only thing preventing dis is the threat of Christy X-tian apocalyptic Armageddon jihadists pouring in from da west in their tens of thousands as NATO/ ISAF to save their Maseeha/ Dajaal jhootta fairytale isstory mazhab......

It was the Iranians who masterminded the fall of Kabul of Ashraf Ghani together with the Taliban. Some fools in Karachi Lahore thought that it was Bajwa-IK which was naturally way out of their depth.

 

[Lulldapull]

It was the Iranians who masterminded the fall of Kabul of Ashraf Ghani together with the Taliban. Some fools in Karachi Lahore thought that it was Bajwa-IK which was naturally way out of their depth.

Exactly!......my only concern is just how many western jihadi X-Tian apocalyptic rattle snake dancers are willing to become da new ISAF in defending Israel. We must not discount these X-Tian Christy christian armageddonist jihadists.......They want their Solomons temple and await da dajaal and maseeha coming down from da heavens..... ....these are all jungli khotay......