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So its Jericho 2 missiles (conventional warhead) against Iranian drone factories or random Revolutionary Guard sites. I doubt the nuclear facilities are in a single place waiting to be hit by a conventional weapon.

Israeli Air Force is not going to be of much use: 600 miles is its combat radius which will barely get it to the border. To get to the actual target it will need air to air over Iraq or Syria, and then F-35s show up with two precision bombs.

This is at a conventional stalemate. Its questionable if Israel has the number of ballistic Jerichos as Iran does. Its been busy maintaining a 500 combat jet air force , which is of minimal use against Iran. Iran had no money for the air force, so put it all in surface to surface projectiles
Isra-heel is in serious trouble, and we all know it too. Iran's a huge target for da west and not just Isra-heel aleh salam since there are thousands of Irani military sites, most important ones buried deep in da mountains. Western military power has been exposed as a joke. Forget Iran or Israel, that's not even a contest anymore for us to ponder over. Irani's are slick and they know exactly what deys doin.......hamara kya banay ga bhai? We da ghareeb struggling to make ends meet/ survive against all odds with a corrupt military ruling over us..... and our country's precarious position in da evolving global order? We are so vulnerable no? What we need to do is to get underground oil n gas pipelines from Irani turani and safeguard our people when da shiit hits da fan with cheap irani oil n gas in secret. Saanu apna sochna chaiye like we don't get caught out in da storm and millions of our ghareeb die due to global geo-politics.
 
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Isra-heel is in serious trouble, and we all know it too. Iran's a huge target for da west and not just Isra-heel aleh salam since there are thousands of Irani military sites, most important ones buried deep in da mountains. Western military power has been exposed as a joke. Forget Iran or Israel, that's not even a contest anymore for us to ponder over. Irani's are slick and they know exactly what deys doin.......hamara kya banay ga bhai? We da ghareeb struggling to make ends meet/ survive against all odds with a corrupt military ruling over us..... and our country's precarious position in da evolving global order? We are so vulnerable no? What we need to do is to get underground oil n gas pipelines from Irani turani and safeguard our people when da shiit hits da fan with cheap irani oil n gas in secret. Saanu apna sochna chaiye like we don't get caught out in da storm and millions of our ghareeb die due to global geo-politics.
Unless Iran lobbed its primitive ballistic missiles, and the US and Israel KNOW that the next generation of missiles that Iran has were not used, then this would be considered serious trouble.

But if the best Iran has in terms of ballistic missiles were used and only a few of them landed on one of the bases, I think militarily Israel has nothing to worry about. I discounted the use of drones as they are nothing but nusance value (here and in Ukraine).

Israel's status as a western country thats a peaceful democracy (its peaceful by causing havoc around it) and all the FDI was flowing in to the country is certainly at risk. Not as many foreign citizens will go in, not as many US companies will have staff there, and possibly Jews from Europe or US that have a romantic image of being in their country will reconsider.

But I would not count that as trouble.
 

Israel pledges response to Iran strikes
Agence France-Presse . Jerusalem 17 April, 2024, 00:16

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An Israeli army F-15 fighter jet flies over central Israel. | AFP photo

Israel's armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran's unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing wider regional conflict.

During six months of war between Israel and Iran-backed militant group Hamas in Gaza, Iran's proxies around the region have stepped up attacks on Israel and its allies, saying they are acting in support of Palestinians in Gaza.

Tensions were already high before Iran launched its first-ever assault on Israeli territory, firing hundreds of missiles and drones in retaliation for a deadly April 1 strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.

'This launch of so many Iranian missiles, cruise missiles, and UAVs into the territory of the State of Israel will be met with a response,' Israeli armed forces chief Lieutenant General Herzi Halevi said Monday, addressing troops at the Nevatim airbase, which was hit in Iran's Saturday night barrage.

The Israeli army has said the vast majority of the weapons were shot down — with the help of the United States and other allies — and the attack caused only minimal damage.

Western governments, including those that supported Israel in its defence, have warned against an escalation, and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with his war cabinet late Monday to discuss next steps, Israeli media reported.

Iran has previously said it would consider the matter 'concluded' unless Israel retaliated, and foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian told his Chinese counterpart in a call on Tuesday that Iran was 'willing to exercise restraint' and had no intention of further escalating tensions.

China's top diplomat Wang Yi said it was 'believed that Iran can handle the situation well and spare the region further turmoil'.

The United States has repeatedly appealed to China — a close partner of Iran and a top buyer of its US-sanctioned oil — to use its influence over Tehran to manage tensions in the Middle East.

Israel on Monday issued its first official comment on the strike on the Iranian consulate in Syria that prompted Tehran's weekend attack.

'These were people who engaged in terrorism against the State of Israel,' Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said. 'There was not a single diplomat there as far as I know.'

The strike killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards, two of them generals.

Iran has portrayed its retaliatory missile and drone barrage as the first act in a tough new strategy.

The Iranian president's deputy chief of staff for political affairs, Mohammad Jamshidi, wrote on X that the 'era of strategic patience is over', and further targeting Iranian personnel and assets 'will be met with a direct and punishing response'.

The head of the UN's atomic watchdog revealed on Monday that Iran had temporarily closed its nuclear facilities over 'security considerations' after launching its retaliatory attack.

International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi said the facilities were expected to reopen on Monday but his inspectors would not be returning until Tuesday, or when 'we see that the situation is completely calm'.

US president Joe Biden has told Netanyahu that Washington would not offer military support for any retaliation against Iran, according to a senior US official.

British foreign secretary David Cameron and French president Emmanuel Macron were also among those urging restraint.

Secretary of state Antony Blinken said Washington did not 'seek escalation, but we'll continue to support the defence of Israel'.

US House speaker Mike Johnson announced that a vote on a fresh package of military aid for Israel could come as early as Friday. The package has been stalled in the House by right-wing members of Johnson's Republican party who oppose new military funding for Ukraine also included in the bill.

Following the weekend's attacks, Israel's military said it would not be distracted from the on-going war against Hamas in Gaza.

It said troops continued to operate in central Gaza, and tanks killed 'a number of terrorists identified advancing towards them'.

Fighter jets destroyed 'terror tunnels and military compounds where armed Hamas terrorists were located', the army said.

The Hamas attack of October 7 that triggered the war in Gaza resulted in the deaths of 1,170 people in Israel, mostly civilians, according to Israeli figures.

Israel's retaliatory offensive has killed at least 33,797 people in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the health ministry in the Hamas-run territory.

Israel estimates that 129 hostages seized during the October 7 attack, including 34 presumed dead, remain in Gaza.

At a White House meeting with Iraqi prime minister Mohamed Shia al-Sudani, Biden said: 'We're committed to a ceasefire that will bring the hostages home and prevent the conflict spreading beyond what it already has.'

Reflecting both the domestic pressure Biden is under, and global calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, pro-Palestinian demonstrators blocked San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge on Monday.

Israel's offensive against Hamas has triggered a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, with desperate shortages of food, medicines and drinking water.

The United Nations said it delivered a four-day supply of fuel to a bakery in northern Gaza on Sunday to enable it to resume operations in an area, which 'has recorded the highest levels of catastrophic hunger in the world'.​
Israel probably has a trick up its sleeve, but its default approach that involves projecting air power over a defenseless neighbor will not be used here because it won't have any effect.

No way that a traditional airstrike works.

So either Israel goes Jericho and then be prepared for a missile war against Iran (who fought a similar Scud vs. Scud battle across several years in the 80s) where Iran is a bigger country and can absorb the impact without Israel's sophisticated defenses.

Or Israel goes asymmetric with sabotage, assassination, or cyber attack.
 
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A member of the Israeli military stands alongside one of the Iranian missiles shot down by Israel and its allies over the weekend.
 
Unless Iran lobbed its primitive ballistic missiles, and the US and Israel KNOW that the next generation of missiles that Iran has were not used, then this would be considered serious trouble.

But if the best Iran has in terms of ballistic missiles were used and only a few of them landed on one of the bases, I think militarily Israel has nothing to worry about. I discounted the use of drones as they are nothing but nusance value (here and in Ukraine).

Israel's status as a western country thats a peaceful democracy (its peaceful by causing havoc around it) and all the FDI was flowing in to the country is certainly at risk. Not as many foreign citizens will go in, not as many US companies will have staff there, and possibly Jews from Europe or US that have a romantic image of being in their country will reconsider.

But I would not count that as trouble.
If Iran fired 600 instead of the 300 that it did, of whatever category, then ‘Sophisticated’ defenses will all get exhausted/overwhelmed. And if Irans toady matched that number with its bottle rockets made from sugar/ Syrup and fertilizer, then da Zionist dream would get shattered in a jiffy. The threat from Iran now is that we won’t fire 300 or 400, but we’ll fire 10,000 and then it’s all over. And we can keep doing it from a distance until you run off to Poland or New Jersey or Brooklyn…😝
 
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