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Exactly!......my only concern is just how many western jihadi X-Tian apocalyptic rattle snake dancers are willing to become da new ISAF in defending Israel. We must not discount these X-Tian Christy christian armageddonist jihadists.......They want their Solomons temple and await da dajaal and maseeha coming down from da heavens..... 😛....these are all jungli khotay...... 😛
It is too late for those Messianic lunatics. Another thing to remember is that Afghans, in general, speak and understand Farsi/Dari. Why would they learn Urdu/Punjabi to entertain another gang of cabbies in Londonistan? So, the current attacks on Chinese engineers in Pakistan are most likely coming from people who want to get Iran engaged with Pakistan in hostility while forgetting the Israel front.
Afghani is harami at his core. He’d do anything for a few dollars. Switch loyalties or religion on da whim. We know this truth. Al-Gurdish is also just like Afghani. Afghani, Al-Gurdish or even Baloch are capable of pimping out their dads to da highest bidders….no need to be ashamed…..sometimes this is life for a lot of dem folks because their ancestors fucked up long ago. It’s just sad.
So its Jericho 2 missiles (conventional warhead) against Iranian drone factories or random Revolutionary Guard sites. I doubt the nuclear facilities are in a single place waiting to be hit by a conventional weapon.
Response to Iran’s attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options
Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran’s weekend missile and drone attack.www.thedailystar.net
Response to Iran's attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options
Considers hurting Iran without all-out war amid pressure from allies
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Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran's weekend missile and drone attack.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu summoned his war cabinet for the second time in less than 24 hours, a government source said. Two senior officials signalled on Sunday that retaliation was not imminent and Israel would not act alone but the results of yesterday's talks were not yet known.
Israel's military chief of staff said the country would respond to the Iranian attack.
"This launch of so many missiles, cruise missiles, and drones into Israeli territory will be met with a response," Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi said, speaking from the Nevatim air force base in southern Israel, which sustained some damage in the attack.
Israel's Channel 12 news reported that Israel's war cabinet discussed a range of options at the second meeting to hurt Iran for its attack on Israel but without causing an all-out war.
Iran's attack - made in retaliation for a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Damascus - has increased fears of open warfare between Israel and Iran and heightened concerns that violence rooted in the Gaza war is spreading further in the region.
Wary of the dangers, President Joe Biden has told Netanyahu the United States will not take part in any Israeli counter-offensive against Iran.
In his 25-minute call to Netanyahu on Sunday, Biden suggested that further response by Israel was "unnecessary".
Since the start of Israel's war in Gaza on Oct 7, clashes have erupted between Israel and Iran-aligned groups in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq. Israel said four of its soldiers were wounded hundreds of metres inside Lebanese territory overnight.
"We're on the edge of the cliff and we have to move away from it," Josep Borrell, the European Union's foreign affairs chief, told Spanish radio station Onda Cero. "We have to step on the brakes and reverse gear."
French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and British Foreign Secretary David Cameron made similar appeals. Washington and United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres have also issued calls for restraint.
Countries including France, Belgium and Germany summoned the Iranian ambassadors. The French foreign ministry said France was working with its partners to de-escalate the situation.
Russia has refrained from criticising its ally Iran in public over the strikes but expressed concern about the risk of escalation on Monday and also called for restraint.
"Further escalation is in no one's interests," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
Iran mounted the attack in response to a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Syria on April 1 that killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers, including two senior commanders.
Its attack, involving more than 300 missiles and drones, caused only modest damage in Israel and no deaths. Most were shot down by Israel's Iron Dome defence system and with help from the US, Britain, France and Jordan.
In Washington, Biden reiterated US commitment to Israel's security ahead of a meeting with Iraq's Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani.
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the Group of Seven major democracies were working on a package of coordinated measures against Iran.
"I spoke to my fellow G7 leaders, we are united in our condemnation of this attack," Sunak said in parliament.
Italy, which holds the rotating presidency of the G7, said it was open to new sanctions against individuals engaged against Israel.
In an interview with Reuters, Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said new sanctions would need the backing of all the G7. He suggested any new measures would be focused on individuals rather than whole nations.
Asian shares fell and gold prices rose yesterday as risk sentiment took a hit. But oil prices dipped and Israel's shekel rose against the dollar after the comments by two senior Israeli officials - Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and centrist minister Benny Gantz - suggesting an Israeli response was not imminent.
Iran's attack has caused travel disruption, with at least a dozen airlines cancelling or rerouting flights, and Europe's aviation regulator reaffirming advice to airlines to use caution in Israeli and Iranian airspace.
Israel remained on high alert, but authorities lifted some emergency measures that had included a ban on some school activities and caps on large gatherings.
Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said Tehran had informed the United States that the attack on Israel would be limited and for self-defence, and that regional neighbours had been informed of the planned strikes 72 hours in advance.
White House national security spokesperson John Kirby yesterday told reporters that the United States did exchange messages with Iran but that there were never any messages regarding Iran's timeframe or targets for its weekend attack.
Kirby would not be drawn into explaining what the messages were about. He said that reports suggesting Iran tipped off the United States about its plans were "categorically false" and "malarkey."
Turkish, Jordanian and Iraqi officials said on Sunday that Iran gave wide notice days before its drone and missile attack on Israel.
In the first-ever attack against Israeli territory, Iran launched more than 300 drones and missiles towards Israel.
The attack included 170 drones and 30 cruise missiles, none of which entered Israeli territory, and at least 110 ballistic missiles, of which a small number reached Israel, military spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said in a televised statement.
At least nine countries were involved in the military escalation - with projectiles fired from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and downed by Israel, the US, the UK and Jordan.
The shortest distance from Iran to Israel is about 1,000km (620 miles) across Iraq, Syria and Jordan.
Since most of the projectiles came from relatively far away, Israel was able to send F-35 stealth fighters to intercept them. The IDF said that 25 of the 30 cruise missiles sent by Iran were shot down outside the country.
Two US officials told the BBC's US partner CBS news that five ballistic missiles evaded air defences and impacted Israeli territory.
Four of them "lightly hit" the Nevatim air force base in the Negev desert in southern Israel, said Israeli sources.
Of the 120 ballistic missiles fired by Iran, about half of them failed on launch or crashed mid-flight, one of the officials told CBS.
Experts said Israel may use this attack as an excuse to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. They also said Netanyahu has an incentive to keep hostilities going, as it fends off the collapse of his razor-thin coalition and new elections.
The attack has also for now distracted global attention from Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. Furthermore, the Iranian attack is also likely to dispel murmurs in the US Congress about curbing weapons supplies to Israel because of Gaza, they said.
yaar India did not and had not provided any weaponry during karabagh war. Those surveillance radars were provided by India after the war. Just late last year India sold a few Pinaka MBRL and Akash Sams and a few SPG (artillery) systems. Indians don't even have a drone product that they can sell even today. Turkish Bayraktar drones performed well in Syria at first, but then they got countered by the Syrian air defenses. In Ukraine their viability was far lower. All 60 or so sold to Ukraine have long been downed. Which brings us to the same issue that Bayraktar or reaper or Hermes or even Irani Gaza or Shahid 129 are good in low intensity wars, but against near peer rivals they will not survive. Just two days ago the Hezb in Lebanon downed a $5 million Hermes. The second one lost in this month alone. Houthi's and Iraqi PMU's have downed a good 3 or 4 Reapers just this year alone. Each one is $30 million. I believe UCAV's are great fighting against guerilla forces like talibunny and Balochi sardars or more recently Irani Mohajir-6 series successful use in Ethiopia against Tigray militia's or by one Sudani general against the other general in their current civil war. Chinese CH-4/ wing Loong is just junk. Houthi's and every man and his dog in Iraq has shot down over a hundred Chinese UCAV's over the last decade. Jordan put up its CH-4 fleet for sale but nobody bought them. Same with Iraqi's......Nobody in even Africa wants them at used prices.
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Isra-heel is in serious trouble, and we all know it too. Iran's a huge target for da west and not just Isra-heel aleh salam since there are thousands of Irani military sites, most important ones buried deep in da mountains. Western military power has been exposed as a joke. Forget Iran or Israel, that's not even a contest anymore for us to ponder over. Irani's are slick and they know exactly what deys doin.......hamara kya banay ga bhai? We da ghareeb struggling to make ends meet/ survive against all odds with a corrupt military ruling over us..... and our country's precarious position in da evolving global order? We are so vulnerable no? What we need to do is to get underground oil n gas pipelines from Irani turani and safeguard our people when da shiit hits da fan with cheap irani oil n gas in secret. Saanu apna sochna chaiye like we don't get caught out in da storm and millions of our ghareeb die due to global geo-politics.
Unless Iran lobbed its primitive ballistic missiles, and the US and Israel KNOW that the next generation of missiles that Iran has were not used, then this would be considered serious trouble.
Israel probably has a trick up its sleeve, but its default approach that involves projecting air power over a defenseless neighbor will not be used here because it won't have any effect.Israel pledges response to Iran strikes
Israel’s armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran’s unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing...
Israel pledges response to Iran strikes
Agence France-Presse . Jerusalem 17 April, 2024, 00:16
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An Israeli army F-15 fighter jet flies over central Israel. | AFP photo
Israel's armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran's unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing wider regional conflict.
During six months of war between Israel and Iran-backed militant group Hamas in Gaza, Iran's proxies around the region have stepped up attacks on Israel and its allies, saying they are acting in support of Palestinians in Gaza.
Tensions were already high before Iran launched its first-ever assault on Israeli territory, firing hundreds of missiles and drones in retaliation for a deadly April 1 strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.
'This launch of so many Iranian missiles, cruise missiles, and UAVs into the territory of the State of Israel will be met with a response,' Israeli armed forces chief Lieutenant General Herzi Halevi said Monday, addressing troops at the Nevatim airbase, which was hit in Iran's Saturday night barrage.
The Israeli army has said the vast majority of the weapons were shot down — with the help of the United States and other allies — and the attack caused only minimal damage.
Western governments, including those that supported Israel in its defence, have warned against an escalation, and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with his war cabinet late Monday to discuss next steps, Israeli media reported.
Iran has previously said it would consider the matter 'concluded' unless Israel retaliated, and foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian told his Chinese counterpart in a call on Tuesday that Iran was 'willing to exercise restraint' and had no intention of further escalating tensions.
China's top diplomat Wang Yi said it was 'believed that Iran can handle the situation well and spare the region further turmoil'.
The United States has repeatedly appealed to China — a close partner of Iran and a top buyer of its US-sanctioned oil — to use its influence over Tehran to manage tensions in the Middle East.
Israel on Monday issued its first official comment on the strike on the Iranian consulate in Syria that prompted Tehran's weekend attack.
'These were people who engaged in terrorism against the State of Israel,' Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said. 'There was not a single diplomat there as far as I know.'
The strike killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards, two of them generals.
Iran has portrayed its retaliatory missile and drone barrage as the first act in a tough new strategy.
The Iranian president's deputy chief of staff for political affairs, Mohammad Jamshidi, wrote on X that the 'era of strategic patience is over', and further targeting Iranian personnel and assets 'will be met with a direct and punishing response'.
The head of the UN's atomic watchdog revealed on Monday that Iran had temporarily closed its nuclear facilities over 'security considerations' after launching its retaliatory attack.
International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi said the facilities were expected to reopen on Monday but his inspectors would not be returning until Tuesday, or when 'we see that the situation is completely calm'.
US president Joe Biden has told Netanyahu that Washington would not offer military support for any retaliation against Iran, according to a senior US official.
British foreign secretary David Cameron and French president Emmanuel Macron were also among those urging restraint.
Secretary of state Antony Blinken said Washington did not 'seek escalation, but we'll continue to support the defence of Israel'.
US House speaker Mike Johnson announced that a vote on a fresh package of military aid for Israel could come as early as Friday. The package has been stalled in the House by right-wing members of Johnson's Republican party who oppose new military funding for Ukraine also included in the bill.
Following the weekend's attacks, Israel's military said it would not be distracted from the on-going war against Hamas in Gaza.
It said troops continued to operate in central Gaza, and tanks killed 'a number of terrorists identified advancing towards them'.
Fighter jets destroyed 'terror tunnels and military compounds where armed Hamas terrorists were located', the army said.
The Hamas attack of October 7 that triggered the war in Gaza resulted in the deaths of 1,170 people in Israel, mostly civilians, according to Israeli figures.
Israel's retaliatory offensive has killed at least 33,797 people in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the health ministry in the Hamas-run territory.
Israel estimates that 129 hostages seized during the October 7 attack, including 34 presumed dead, remain in Gaza.
At a White House meeting with Iraqi prime minister Mohamed Shia al-Sudani, Biden said: 'We're committed to a ceasefire that will bring the hostages home and prevent the conflict spreading beyond what it already has.'
Reflecting both the domestic pressure Biden is under, and global calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, pro-Palestinian demonstrators blocked San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge on Monday.
Israel's offensive against Hamas has triggered a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, with desperate shortages of food, medicines and drinking water.
The United Nations said it delivered a four-day supply of fuel to a bakery in northern Gaza on Sunday to enable it to resume operations in an area, which 'has recorded the highest levels of catastrophic hunger in the world'.
If Iran fired 600 instead of the 300 that it did, of whatever category, then ‘Sophisticated’ defenses will all get exhausted/overwhelmed. And if Irans toady matched that number with its bottle rockets made from sugar/ Syrup and fertilizer, then da Zionist dream would get shattered in a jiffy. The threat from Iran now is that we won’t fire 300 or 400, but we’ll fire 10,000 and then it’s all over. And we can keep doing it from a distance until you run off to Poland or New Jersey or Brooklyn…😝
