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[Saif]

United States appreciates Bangladesh’s effort to ensure security for all

The United States has welcomed the ongoing efforts of Bangladesh’s interim government to ensure the safety and security of all citizens...

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United States appreciates Bangladesh’s effort to ensure security for all
United News of Bangladesh . Dhaka 04 December, 2024, 13:06

The United States has welcomed the ongoing efforts of Bangladesh’s interim government to ensure the safety and security of all citizens.

A spokesperson for the US Department of State made this statement in response to a question from Voice of America Bangla on Tuesday, December 3.

Addressing concerns about alleged inaction by the interim government regarding the safety of minority communities, the State Department noted via an emailed response: ‘We condemn any acts of violence or intolerance towards members of minority communities and welcome the interim government’s continued efforts to ensure the security of all citizens in Bangladesh.’

When asked about the US position on alleged persecution of minority communities in Bangladesh, the Department further stated:

‘The United States supports freedom of religion or belief, freedom of expression, and the rights to peaceful assembly and association as fundamental freedoms. We consistently communicate our support for these rights to the interim government of Bangladesh and our other partners.’

The US State Department also addressed concerns surrounding the designation of ISKCON as a ‘terrorist organisation’ in Bangladesh and the ongoing legal troubles of Chinmoy Krishna Das Brahmachari.

The spokesperson noted — ‘These issues should be resolved by the government of Bangladesh in line with the rights guaranteed by its constitution and laws. We urge Bangladesh, as we do all countries, to uphold freedoms of expression, peaceful assembly, association, and religion or belief.’

Tensions have risen between Bangladesh and India over the arrest of Chinmoy Krishna Das and the reported persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh.

Responding to a question about the US role in promoting regional security amid these developments, the State Department spokesperson said, ‘We deeply value our relationships with both Bangladesh and India. We leave the matter of their diplomatic relations to the respective governments.’​

 

[Bilal9]

Dhaka summons Indian envoy, hands him protest letter

The foreign ministry summoned Indian High Commissioner in Bangladesh Pranay Verma and handed a protest note yesterday, a day after the Bangladesh Assistant High Commission in Agartala came under an attack during a protest by the Hindu Sangharsh Samity.

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Dhaka summons Indian envoy, hands him protest letter
Bangladesh’s Agartala mission suspends services; CA’s press secy blames Indian media’s misinformation for the attack


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The foreign ministry summoned Indian High Commissioner in Bangladesh Pranay Verma and handed a protest note yesterday, a day after the Bangladesh Assistant High Commission in Agartala came under an attack during a protest by the Hindu Sangharsh Samity.

Hours after the attack, the foreign ministry said the Bangladesh government deeply resents the violent demonstration and attack, which was in violation of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

Following the attack, the Bangladesh mission in Agartala suspended all visa and consular services until further notice, citing the security situation.

The Bangladesh foreign ministry did not issue any statement or spoke to the media regarding the summoning of the Indian envoy.

"He has been asked to come," Foreign Adviser Touhid Hossain told the media yesterday, minutes before Verma entered the ministry around 4:00pm for a meeting with acting foreign secretary Riaz Hamidullah.

However, Chief Adviser's Press Secretary Shafiqul Alam, during a media briefing at the Foreign Service Academy, yesterday said, "We have issued a protest letter and conveyed our concerns. The foreign ministry has engaged with the Indian authorities diplomatically."

Speaking to journalists after the nearly a half an hour meeting, Verma said the wide-ranging and multifaceted Indo-Bangla relationship cannot be stuck on one issue.

He also said India wants to build a constant, stable, and constructive relationship with Bangladesh.

"We are ready to engage with Bangladesh's interim government and are committed to working together to achieve our shared aspirations in peace, security, and development."

Verma said India and Bangladesh have many things to collaborate on and there have been many positive developments in different areas, including power supply, essential commodities, and trade.

INDIAN MEDIA BLAMED FOR ATTACK

Speaking to journalists yesterday, CA's Press Secretary Shafiqul said the attack on the Bangladesh mission in Agartala is the result of Indian media spreading misinformation on the minority issues in Bangladesh.

"The misinformation campaign is showing that something dangerous is happening in Bangladesh. I will put the blame on the Indian media for this."

He said Chief Adviser Prof Muhammad Yunus, during his conversation with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, said a propaganda was carried out on alleged minority repression in Bangladesh, and requested him to send Indian journalists to Bangladesh so they can see the ground realities.

"They can investigate into what is happening -- if the violence is there. I also requested the Indian media to visit Bangladesh," Yunus said.

Unfortunately, Shafiqul said, the Indian media are citing the report of the Hindu Buddhist Christian Unity Council (HBCUC) and other sources of their liking.

He said a Netra News investigation showed a HBCUC report contained distorted information. The report showed nine people were killed in attacks on minorities, but actually not every death was related to communal violence. "Those were mainly personal or political in nature."

The report of the HBCUC was "cited by the media 11 million times", and unfortunately, the HBCUC did not issue a single statement on the Netra News report nor it revisited its own report.

"We also called upon the global human rights bodies to come and see. We are not stopping anyone from coming here. We have openness. We are transparent in our activities," the press secretary said.

However, those blaming the Bangladesh government are not open to accept anything other than what they believed keeping their eyes and ears shut. They are pretending not to listen to the Bangladesh government, Shafiqul said.

The Indian media is spreading misinformation without verification, and as a result, a section of Indian people are inciting violence, he said.

The press secretary said the citizen groups, political parties, and the civil society should be vocal about it because the Indian media outlets are "trying to put the Bangladesh government on trial".

He said Bangladesh wants good relations with India, which is a big neighbour, but that should be based on fairness and equity.​

There should be fact checking about this event in Bangladesh so the truth can be shown. There is fact-checking in India itself for the Godi Media propaganda there.

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[Krishna with Flute]

Sir, we are not the global thekedars of dharm.

We have enough problems here.. BD problems are not ours.

Sameful @Sharma Ji , Shameful comment.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Chinese with their substandard weapons whacked India in 1962. India doesn't need one more whack in 2024. No country on Earth think China would send troops to help them in a war. Good number of nations want Chinese weapons because China has a liberal policy of transferring military technology to friendly countries. India cannot compete with China and it is evident from their comparative weapons exports.

China has a Liberal policy because of those 4 decade old substandard technology. It is not going to be useful to any country. China still sells JF-17 to Pakistan but Pakistan have to rely on More than 4 decades old F-16 of US rather than modern fighters of China. That is the level of Chinese technology and therefore exporting them doesn't make any strategic difference expect China making money.

 

[Saif]

China has a Liberal policy because of those 4 decade old substandard technology. It is not going to be useful to any country. China still sells JF-17 to Pakistan but Pakistan have to rely on More than 4 decades old F-16 of US rather than modern fighters of China. That is the level of Chinese technology and therefore exporting them doesn't make any strategic difference expect China making money.

Technology wise China is 50 years ahead of India. Period.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Technology wise China is 50 years ahead of India. Period.

It is visible from JF-17. A futuristic 8th generation plane.

 

[Saif]

Bangladeshis know how to shape their destiny

If religion alone could shape a state’s trajectory, Bangladesh would not have parted ways with Pakistan.

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Bangladeshis know how to shape their destiny

The arrest of ISKCON leader Chinmoy Krishna Das Brahmachari and the tragic death of Advocate Saiful Islam Alif has been misrepresented in some media outlets. FILE PHOTO: RAJIB RAIHAN

The recent controversy involving the Bangladesh chapter of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) has underlined the country's challenges in maintaining its legacy of tolerance in the aftermath of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's ouster who has been provided shelter in India. Misrepresentation by some media outlets of the arrest of ISKCON leader Chinmoy Krishna Das Brahmachari and the tragic death of Advocate Saiful Islam Alif on November 26 has fuelled debates about communal harmony in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh is the world's eighth-most populous country and 35th-largest economy. It is the second-largest exporter of ready-made garments (RMG) and home to BRAC, the world's largest NGO, and Grameen Bank, founded by Nobel Laureate Prof Muhammad Yunus, a pioneer of microcredit finance and head of the interim caretaker government. Following Hasina's departure, concerns have emerged in certain quarters over the resurgence of Islamist political parties and whether Bangladesh could shift toward theocracy in a nation where over 90 percent of the population is Muslim. There have also been some comparisons with Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The story of Bangladesh's independence is rooted in a struggle against communal identity imposed by the then-Pakistani rulers. Unlike Pakistan, where religious ideologies are central in shaping governance structures, Bangladesh's identity is anchored in Bengali nationalism. During the Liberation War of 1971, Bangladeshis emphasised linguistic and cultural distinctiveness rather than religious uniformity.

The call for autonomy, often symbolised by the term "Bangladeshi" since the early 1960s, reflects this desire for a unique national identity. This historic resistance reinforces Bangladesh's foundation built on cultural plurality and assertion of a distinct Bengali identity, which continues to shape its political and social landscape even today.

The recent unrest centres on a public demonstration held by ISKCON members, during which a saffron flag—often associated with Hindu nationalism—was hoisted above the national flag of Bangladesh at a rally in Chittagong on October 25. This act was widely condemned as a violation of national sovereignty and an affront to the country's secular identity, leading to the Brahmachari's arrest.

The situation escalated when ISKCON's supporters, reportedly enraged by the court's decision to deny bail to Brahmachari, surrounded a prison van and began protesting. These protests quickly turned violent, with demonstrators allegedly vandalising vehicles, throwing brickbats, and causing damage to public property, including windows at the court mosque complex.

During the clashes, Advocate Saiful Islam Alif, a member of the Chittagong Bar Association, was killed and his body was desecrated, which further inflamed public sentiment.

Bangladesh's constitution uniquely balances secular principles with Islam as the state religion. The Supreme Court's 2016 judgment reinforced that Islam's recognition does not contradict the state's secular obligations and that all religious communities must enjoy equal protection and rights under the law. The social fabric reflects this balance, visible in the shared courtyards between mosques and temples in regions like Lalmonirhat.

While communal tensions can arise in Bangladesh, like in other parts of South Asia, international media often misrepresent these incidents, overlooking Bangladesh's commendable, if not perfect, track record in upholding and promoting tolerance. Reports exaggerating the situation, such as claims of systematic suppression of Hindu organisations, ignore the local context and Bangladesh's unique socio-cultural identity.

Bangladesh's constitution uniquely balances secular principles with Islam as the state religion. The Supreme Court's 2016 judgment reinforced that Islam's recognition does not contradict the state's secular obligations and that all religious communities must enjoy equal protection and rights under the law. The social fabric reflects this balance, visible in the shared courtyards between mosques and temples in regions like Lalmonirhat.

Bangladeshis are known for their moderate, devout faith and progressive outlook. Influenced by Sufi traditions, the country's religious landscape promotes spiritualism and peaceful coexistence, contrasting with hardline interpretations in some neighbouring regions. The state's emphasis on religious neutrality ensures respect for religion without it dictating public life, in sharp contrast with the theocratic shift in countries like Afghanistan. Even during the political turmoil following Sheikh Hasina's ouster, community leaders and students have united to protect the religious sites of the minorities.

Despite the emergence of radicalism in many parts of the world, these sentiments remain on the fringe and have not received widespread support in secular Bangladesh. Counterterrorism efforts have dismantled networks like Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) and Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami Bangladesh (HuJI-B), preventing the rise of a unified Islamist front.

This resilience stems partly from Bangladesh's experience with extremist violence, such as the 2016 Holey Artisan Bakery attack. The state's firm response, combined with the community's rejection of extremist ideologies has ensured that such an incident has not occurred since.

The interim government's emphasis has also been on maintaining order and safeguarding minority communities. Both Professor Yunus and Army Chief General Waker-Uz-Zaman visited several temples and shrines ahead of Durga Puja. Except for a few isolated incidents in a country of nearly 180 million, attacks on minorities, including Hindus, have been limited and largely neutralised. Hence, structural conditions and public sentiment in Bangladesh do not favour a Taliban-style takeover or Pakistani-style quasi-military rule under the cloak of so-called democracy.

In addition, the country's vigorous engagement in international peacekeeping missions highlights its commitment to stability beyond its borders. While Afghanistan's governance has often been marked by shifts between authoritarianism and radicalism, Bangladesh's trajectory has been one of balancing democratic aspirations with a firm stance against militancy.

If religion alone could shape a state's trajectory, Bangladesh would not have parted ways with Pakistan. Instead, people's free-spirited nature and a rich tradition of cultural celebration have created a space where being devout doesn't conflict with being open-minded and progressive. Bangladeshis have trod this path with blood and sweat since February 21, 1952, when martyrs gave their lives to resist Urdu being imposed as the national language by Muhammad Ali Jinnah until Bangladeshis liberated the country in 1971. Today, February 21 is universally observed as International Mother Language Day.

As the interim government steers the country towards elections, the challenges it faces are real, but the strengths it possesses are equally significant. While vigilance is necessary, the core values that have shaped Bangladesh's independence remain its greatest asset in navigating these uncertain times with cautious optimism. There is no need for anybody, regionally or globally, to be overly concerned as history shows, despite setbacks and challenges, Bangladeshis know how to shape their destiny.

This article was originally published in the opinion column of The Indian Express on December 2, 2024.

Prof Syed Munir Khasru is chairman of the Institute for Policy, Advocacy, and Governance (IPAG), an international think tank.​

 

[Saif]

Prime suspect of lawyer Saiful murder arrested

The police arrested the prime suspect Chandan Das in lawyer Saiful Islam Alif murder case at Bhairab Railway Station in Kishoreganj early Thursday.

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Prime suspect of lawyer Saiful murder arrested
Staff Correspondent . Chattogram 05 December, 2024, 16:37

Law enforcement officials have arrested Chandan, the prime suspect in the murder of lawyer Saiful Islam Alif, from Kishoreganj. The arrest took place on early Thursday | UNB photo

The police arrested the prime suspect Chandan Das in lawyer Saiful Islam Alif murder case at Bhairab Railway Station in Kishoreganj early Thursday.

Confirming the arrest, Chattogram Metropolitan Police additional deputy commissioner Kazi Md Tarek Aziz said that he was arrested at about 12:15am on Thursday.

‘Chandan is now in the custody of Bhairab police station,’ he said, adding that Chandan Das, 35, is son of the late Dhari of Methorpatti area in Sevak Colony under the Kotwali Police Station in Chattogram city.

‘A joint team from Bhairab Police Station and Chattogram’s Kotwali Police Station arrested him on information. In the video footage, he was seen wearing an orange T-shirt and black pants. Chandan Das is being taken to Chattogram for the next legal course of action,’ CMP ADC Tarek said.

Saiful, an assistant public prosecutor in Chattogram, was hacked to death during a clash between the members of law enforcement agencies and followers of Hindu community leader Chinmoy Krishna Das Brahmachari near the Chattogram court area on November 26 while sending Chinmoy to jail in a sedition case.

According to CMP officials, Chandan arrived at Bhairab Railway Station at 7:30pm on Wednesday as his in-laws house is located at Methorpatti, Bhairab.

A total of six cases were filed so far over Saiful Islam Alif’s killing near court premises, obstructing government duties, vandalism and other charges.

The police have filed three of the cases, victim families filed two cases, and a businessman filed the rest one, while 38 people have been arrested in connection with Saiful killing.

Bangladesh Sammilita Sanatani Jagran Jote spokesperson Chinmoy, also a former leader of International Society for Krishna Consciousness in short ISKCON, was sent to jail after his bail plea was rejected on November 26.

On Tuesday, The court of Chattogram Metropolitan Sessions Judge Saiful Islam rescheduled the bail hearing for Chinmoy Krishna Das for January 2 as no defence lawyer appeared on his behalf.

Chattogram Metropolitan Sessions Judge Saiful Islam issued the order, said Nesar Ahmed, Nazir of the Metropolitan Sessions Judge Court.​

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Bangladeshis know how to shape their destiny

If religion alone could shape a state’s trajectory, Bangladesh would not have parted ways with Pakistan.

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Bangladeshis know how to shape their destiny

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The arrest of ISKCON leader Chinmoy Krishna Das Brahmachari and the tragic death of Advocate Saiful Islam Alif has been misrepresented in some media outlets. FILE PHOTO: RAJIB RAIHAN

The recent controversy involving the Bangladesh chapter of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) has underlined the country's challenges in maintaining its legacy of tolerance in the aftermath of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's ouster who has been provided shelter in India. Misrepresentation by some media outlets of the arrest of ISKCON leader Chinmoy Krishna Das Brahmachari and the tragic death of Advocate Saiful Islam Alif on November 26 has fuelled debates about communal harmony in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh is the world's eighth-most populous country and 35th-largest economy. It is the second-largest exporter of ready-made garments (RMG) and home to BRAC, the world's largest NGO, and Grameen Bank, founded by Nobel Laureate Prof Muhammad Yunus, a pioneer of microcredit finance and head of the interim caretaker government. Following Hasina's departure, concerns have emerged in certain quarters over the resurgence of Islamist political parties and whether Bangladesh could shift toward theocracy in a nation where over 90 percent of the population is Muslim. There have also been some comparisons with Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The story of Bangladesh's independence is rooted in a struggle against communal identity imposed by the then-Pakistani rulers. Unlike Pakistan, where religious ideologies are central in shaping governance structures, Bangladesh's identity is anchored in Bengali nationalism. During the Liberation War of 1971, Bangladeshis emphasised linguistic and cultural distinctiveness rather than religious uniformity.

The call for autonomy, often symbolised by the term "Bangladeshi" since the early 1960s, reflects this desire for a unique national identity. This historic resistance reinforces Bangladesh's foundation built on cultural plurality and assertion of a distinct Bengali identity, which continues to shape its political and social landscape even today.

The recent unrest centres on a public demonstration held by ISKCON members, during which a saffron flag—often associated with Hindu nationalism—was hoisted above the national flag of Bangladesh at a rally in Chittagong on October 25. This act was widely condemned as a violation of national sovereignty and an affront to the country's secular identity, leading to the Brahmachari's arrest.

The situation escalated when ISKCON's supporters, reportedly enraged by the court's decision to deny bail to Brahmachari, surrounded a prison van and began protesting. These protests quickly turned violent, with demonstrators allegedly vandalising vehicles, throwing brickbats, and causing damage to public property, including windows at the court mosque complex.

During the clashes, Advocate Saiful Islam Alif, a member of the Chittagong Bar Association, was killed and his body was desecrated, which further inflamed public sentiment.

Bangladesh's constitution uniquely balances secular principles with Islam as the state religion. The Supreme Court's 2016 judgment reinforced that Islam's recognition does not contradict the state's secular obligations and that all religious communities must enjoy equal protection and rights under the law. The social fabric reflects this balance, visible in the shared courtyards between mosques and temples in regions like Lalmonirhat.

While communal tensions can arise in Bangladesh, like in other parts of South Asia, international media often misrepresent these incidents, overlooking Bangladesh's commendable, if not perfect, track record in upholding and promoting tolerance. Reports exaggerating the situation, such as claims of systematic suppression of Hindu organisations, ignore the local context and Bangladesh's unique socio-cultural identity.

Bangladesh's constitution uniquely balances secular principles with Islam as the state religion. The Supreme Court's 2016 judgment reinforced that Islam's recognition does not contradict the state's secular obligations and that all religious communities must enjoy equal protection and rights under the law. The social fabric reflects this balance, visible in the shared courtyards between mosques and temples in regions like Lalmonirhat.

Bangladeshis are known for their moderate, devout faith and progressive outlook. Influenced by Sufi traditions, the country's religious landscape promotes spiritualism and peaceful coexistence, contrasting with hardline interpretations in some neighbouring regions. The state's emphasis on religious neutrality ensures respect for religion without it dictating public life, in sharp contrast with the theocratic shift in countries like Afghanistan. Even during the political turmoil following Sheikh Hasina's ouster, community leaders and students have united to protect the religious sites of the minorities.

Despite the emergence of radicalism in many parts of the world, these sentiments remain on the fringe and have not received widespread support in secular Bangladesh. Counterterrorism efforts have dismantled networks like Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) and Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami Bangladesh (HuJI-B), preventing the rise of a unified Islamist front.

This resilience stems partly from Bangladesh's experience with extremist violence, such as the 2016 Holey Artisan Bakery attack. The state's firm response, combined with the community's rejection of extremist ideologies has ensured that such an incident has not occurred since.

The interim government's emphasis has also been on maintaining order and safeguarding minority communities. Both Professor Yunus and Army Chief General Waker-Uz-Zaman visited several temples and shrines ahead of Durga Puja. Except for a few isolated incidents in a country of nearly 180 million, attacks on minorities, including Hindus, have been limited and largely neutralised. Hence, structural conditions and public sentiment in Bangladesh do not favour a Taliban-style takeover or Pakistani-style quasi-military rule under the cloak of so-called democracy.

In addition, the country's vigorous engagement in international peacekeeping missions highlights its commitment to stability beyond its borders. While Afghanistan's governance has often been marked by shifts between authoritarianism and radicalism, Bangladesh's trajectory has been one of balancing democratic aspirations with a firm stance against militancy.

If religion alone could shape a state's trajectory, Bangladesh would not have parted ways with Pakistan. Instead, people's free-spirited nature and a rich tradition of cultural celebration have created a space where being devout doesn't conflict with being open-minded and progressive. Bangladeshis have trod this path with blood and sweat since February 21, 1952, when martyrs gave their lives to resist Urdu being imposed as the national language by Muhammad Ali Jinnah until Bangladeshis liberated the country in 1971. Today, February 21 is universally observed as International Mother Language Day.

As the interim government steers the country towards elections, the challenges it faces are real, but the strengths it possesses are equally significant. While vigilance is necessary, the core values that have shaped Bangladesh's independence remain its greatest asset in navigating these uncertain times with cautious optimism. There is no need for anybody, regionally or globally, to be overly concerned as history shows, despite setbacks and challenges, Bangladeshis know how to shape their destiny.

This article was originally published in the opinion column of The Indian Express on December 2, 2024.

Prof Syed Munir Khasru is chairman of the Institute for Policy, Advocacy, and Governance (IPAG), an international think tank.​

I fully agree with with that. BD knows very well how to shape his future. They are busy in shaping their future now. I can can foresee their future.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I'm ok with whatever is happening to BD Hindus, not my concern.

Good thing is that this gives Modi carte blanche on how to deal with millions of illegals here, mass deportations NOW ! More detention camps, get me a Mengele please.. India is a land of doctors, find him and do let us do what fascists do.

Jai Mahakaal !

 

[Bilal9]

China has a Liberal policy because of those 4 decade old substandard technology. It is not going to be useful to any country. China still sells JF-17 to Pakistan but Pakistan have to rely on More than 4 decades old F-16 of US rather than modern fighters of China. That is the level of Chinese technology and therefore exporting them doesn't make any strategic difference expect China making money.

You have broached an off topic subject - but I will respond just to make a point.

Your comments about Chinese Substandard tech does not hold water. In every conflict between China and India, Chinese weapons have excelled over Indian ones, all of which happen to be imported or assembled from imported parts.

Until a few years ago - Indian local weapons manufacture was a rather dismal failure (INSAS rifle was a good example). Every weapon in India is more or less dependent on imported parts, backward integration is absent. Brahmos uses Russian parts, Tejas uses French avionics and US engines. Chinese make all their weapons themselves. Nothing is imported, unlike India.

Their level of indigenization is far ahead (I'd say at least a decade ahead) of India. That is a conservative statement.

Forget weapons, even local Indian cellphones like Karbonn and Micromax etc. are all made from imported Chinese parts. These are basic pieces of technology which are commonly available across the globe. Quite a few Indian power stations are also Chinese made. Indian renewable energy plants (Wind and Solar farms) all use Chinese equipment.

Today the Chinese are competing with Tesla with some hundred different brands of EVs like BYD which is a global leader. Industry leaders are saying Chinese EVs are better in quality and features than Tesla. They make 50% of the cars produced globally. And you are saying they have substandard tech....

Please don't embarrass yourself anymore bhai.

 

[Saif]

Substandard tech ?? In every conflict between China and India, Chinese weapons have excelled over Indian ones, all of which happen to be imported or assembled from imported parts.

Until a few years ago - Indian local weapons manufacture was a rather dismal failure (INSAS rifle was a good example). Every weapon in India is more or less dependent on imported parts, backward integration is absent. Brahmos uses Russian parts, Tejas uses French avionics and US engines. Chinese make all their weapons themselves. Nothing is imported, unlike India.

Their level of indigenization is far ahead (I'd say at least a decade ahead) of India. That is a conservative statement.

Forget weapons, even local Indian cellphones like Karbonn and Micromax etc. are all made from imported Chinese parts. These are basic pieces of technology which are commonly available across the globe. Quite a few Indian power stations are also Chinese made. Indian renewable energy plants (Wind and Solar farms) all use Chinese equipment.

Today the Chinese are competing with Tesla with some hundred different brands of EVs like BYD which is a global leader. Industry leaders are saying Chinese EVs are better in quality and features than Tesla. They make 50% of the cars produced globally. And you are saying they have substandard tech....

Please don't embarrass yourself anymore bhai.

Our Indian bhai thinks India is a superpower and China is a nuisance power when the opposite is true.

 

[Bilal9]

Our Indian bhai thinks India is a superpower and China is a nuisance power when the opposite is true.

He is just not informed enough.

The Chinese don't have a culture of screaming from rooftops for every little achievement.

Those in India who know this - don't underestimate Chinese achievements just for the sake of arguing.

In any case back to our regular topic.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I'm ok with whatever is happening to BD Hindus, not my concern.

Good thing is that this gives Modi carte blanche on how to deal with millions of illegals here, mass deportations NOW ! More detention camps, get me a Mengele please.. India is a land of doctors, find him and do let us do what fascists do.

Jai Mahakaal !

If a country needs the reason of Hindu persecution for the deportation of these illegals than that country is weak.

 

[Sharma Ji]

If a country needs the reason of Hindu persecution for the deportation of these illegals than that country is weak.

2 separate issues...

I want illegals kicked out of here.. primary concern.

BD Hindus ? meh, don't care... if at all, allow the rich ones here and be done with it.