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Same in Turkey, This is the very definition of secularism. You responded to a point that I didn't make.

Well, Except the bars don't close just because it's prayer time.

We don't close your mosque when it's drinking time and you don't close our bar just because it's YOUR prayer time. Everyone has to respect one another.

That is in the Western part of Turkiye. And more elitist parts of the cities. Many parts of the cities are conservative as well as Eastern parts of the country. It's a mixed society.
 
That is in the Western part of Turkiye. And more elitist parts of the cities. Many parts of the cities are conservative as well as Eastern parts of the country. It's a mixed society.
Nope, bars don't close anywhere for prayer. There's no such law.

Although there are no bars in small villages, usually more alcohol is consumed in rural parts, with not much to do in the villages, people drink a lot.

They pretend to be hardcore islamists though. :D
 
Nope, bars don't close anywhere for prayer. There's no such law.

Although there are no bars in small villages, usually more alcohol is consumed in rural parts, with not much to do in the villages, people drink a lot.

They pretend to be hardcore islamists though. :D

They might not close for prayer but bars are seldomly found in conservative parts of the country. Turks also drink their own beverage which I believe is called rakub or something like that.
 
They might not close for prayer but bars are seldomly found in conservative parts of the country. Turks also drink their own beverage which I believe is called rakub or something like that.
I've been on the internet ever since I was a little kid and even still I am shocked at how little foreigners know about Turkey.

"Conservative parts of the country" is a very vague term, it could be a huge province like Konya that's bigger than many countries, or it could be a tiny village in Kars or Şanlıurfa.

Obviously small places don't have bars but it doesn't mean people don't consume alcohol. Most commonly we drink in our homes anyway. I've only been to bars like 10-20 times in my life.

Sometimes some imam types go to bars to tell people to stop drinking, mostly they just get told to fvck off

And yes, Rakı is our national drink and there's a very sophisticated table culture around it. Unlike the fake rakı that Greeks drink.
Where's @Foinikas when I want to mess with him? Damn
 
I've been on the internet ever since I was a little kid and even still I am shocked at how little foreigners know about Turkey.

"Conservative parts of the country" is a very vague term, it could be a huge province like Konya that's bigger than many countries, or it could be a tiny village in Kars or Şanlıurfa.

Obviously small places don't have bars but it doesn't mean people don't consume alcohol. Most commonly we drink in our homes anyway. I've only been to bars like 10-20 times in my life.

Sometimes some imam types go to bars to tell people to stop drinking, mostly they just get told to fvck off

And yes, Rakı is our national drink and there's a very sophisticated table culture around it. Unlike the fake rakı that Greeks drink.
Where's @Foinikas when I want to mess with him? Damn

Both my parents have been to Turkey. My mother lived in Ankara for five years and the lower income & rural class.

My father drove from Germany to Pakistan and passed through Turkiye. He wrote sometimes he felt he was in a right-wing religious country. But all from what i've seen & read it's a mixed society.
 
Nope, bars don't close anywhere for prayer. There's no such law.

Although there are no bars in small villages, usually more alcohol is consumed in rural parts, with not much to do in the villages, people drink a lot.

They pretend to be hardcore islamists though. :D

Wow!

This wasn't the impression I got from my Turkish friends in college.

I guess you learn something new everyday.

There are sections of society in Bangladesh too (wealthy people above a certain income and financial status) who drink quite a bit socially, but they never claim to be Islamist or even somewhat religious.
 
Wow!

This wasn't the impression I got from my Turkish friends in college.

I guess you learn something new everyday.

There are sections of society in Bangladesh too (wealthy people above a certain income and financial status) who drink quite a bit socially, but they never claim to be Islamist or even somewhat religious.
Our islamists are all hypocrites, the rich ones snort cocaine in their Audis and never miss friday prayers.

Thanks to them atheism is skyrocketing in Turkey
 
Anti-Americanism is quite widespread in Turkey and shouldn't be mistaken with an outright hatred of all of the western civilisation.

We have big issues with US, Germany and France but we have good relations with UK, Italy and Spain

It's a boiling point now. Wherever Turkey heads after Erdogan would show us a great deal where the country is headed.
 

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