[🇵🇰] Will Pakistan ever function as a secular state?

[MuHayMin]

oh bhai, I got nothing against you. The issue with us is that here we are falling apart/ crumbling away no?.....we got a powerful muslim neigbor to our west no?......2500 saal say they one nation no?......never really colonized. What can we learn from them? ......likewise there is China......another very old civilizational state.

We don't look for advice from these two big nation states, we're just goin revert back to hinduism. That maybe ok for you, but it ain't ok for me......

Just saying.........

Revert back to what? are you well?
Will the bhuddist and Zoroastrian parts of Pakkstan go back to those faiths too lol? When you say Iran is a powerful civilization I do agree with you, but the only reason we aren't because our journey compared that to the Persians have been much more ardous, we have fought wars against an enemy 5 times big, the war on terror, etc. So it's obvious we are suffering. Unlike Pakistan, iran hasn't been invaded multiple times and it isn't a post colonial country. Otherwise those Iranians aren't that great.

Yes we can learn from the Chinese but if you know the Chinese well they are more of a reserved nation. No one said you shouldn't learn from anyone.

Pakistan too is also a old civilization with a long indus valley history.

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

What was the official name of Pakistan after partition in 1947 on 14th August ?

I believe Dominion of Pakistan. But thats irrelevant.

Pakistan was created so Muslims could live according to Islamic laws. Otherwise there was no point of partition.
If you want to live in a secular country you are welcome to live in India then.

Islam says religious minorities must be protected. Islam says to be tolerant.

Even our great Quaid-e-Azam talks about Islamic democracy and Islamic Socialism in his speeches.

 

[MuHayMin]

I believe Dominion of Pakistan. But thats irrelevant.

Pakistan was created so Muslims could live according to Islamic laws. Otherwise there was no point of partition.
If you want to live in a secular country you are welcome to live in India then.

Islam says religious minorities must be protected. Islam says to be tolerant.

Even our great Quaid-e-Azam talks about Islamic democracy and Islamic Socialism in his speeches.

I believe Dominion of Pakistan. But thats irrelevant.

Pakistan was created so Muslims could live according to Islamic laws. Otherwise there was no point of partition.
If you want to live in a secular country you are welcome to live in India then.

Hey why don't you go to Saudi Arabia?

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

Hey why don't you go to Saudi Arabia?

Why should I? Pakistan is enough Muslim country for me. Why should I go anywhere else?

For a hypocrite like yourself, why don't you go to Saudi Arabia?

 

[MuHayMin]

Why should I? Pakistan is enough Muslim country for me. Why should I go anywhere else?

You should go to Saudi Arabia, it's more muslim. Because the guy who used to drink Whiskey definitely didn't intend to create an extremist nation full of people like you. Saudi Arabia is best suited for you, but you'll be seen as racially inferior there. That's the one setback there.

 

[Lulldapull]

Revert back to what? are you well?
Will the bhuddist and Zoroastrian parts of Pakkstan go back to those faiths too lol? When you say Iran is a powerful civilization I do agree with you, but the only reason we aren't because our journey compared that to the Persians have been much more ardous, we have fought wars against an enemy 5 times big, the war on terror, etc. So it's obvious we are suffering. Unlike Pakistan, iran hasn't been invaded multiple times and it isn't a post colonial country. Otherwise those Iranians aren't that great.

Yes we can learn from the Chinese but if you know the Chinese well they are more of a reserved nation. No one said you shouldn't learn from anyone.

Pakistan too is also a old civilization with a long indus valley history.

oh bhai, some of us here actually know Pakistan's history rather well. We went to good schools in Karachi and went on out west 30 years ago and have made millions of dollars......No issue there at all. Our problem is that we couldn't bring prosperity to our country overall. This is our failure! We followed the bad UK class based/ elitist system and we've hurt our nation in doing so.

Irani's did away with a class based aristocratic order 45 years ago now. Their engineers that I've worked with overseas are world class! Same same with the Chinese engineers. Both nations highly capable.

We are not total idiots......we just need good leadership. Problem with us is we don't believe in ourselves bhai. The Iranis, Chinese and the Russians do!......already the BRICS controls 33% of the world GDP. The G-7 the other 27%.......Things are changing.....

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

You should go to Saudi Arabia, it's more muslim. Because the guy who used to drink Whiskey definitely didn't intend to create an extremist nation full of people like you. Saudi Arabia is best suited for you, but you'll be seen as racially inferior there.

You have proof Quaid-e-Azam drank alcohol? Doesn't matter what Mr. Jinnah wanted anyways. He's dead now.
As a Muslim I follow what Islam says.

 

[MuHayMin]

oh bhai, some of us here actually know Pakistan's history rather well. We went to good schools in Karachi and went on out west 30 years ago and have made millions of dollars......No issue there at all. Our problem is that we couldn't bring prosperity to our country overall. This is our failure! We followed the bad UK class based/ elitist system and we've hurt our nation in doing so.

Irani's did away with a class based aristocratic order 45 years ago now. Their engineers that I've worked with overseas are world class! Same same with the Chinese engineers. Both nations highly capable.

We are not total idiots......we just need good leadership. Problem with us is we don't believe in ourselves bhai. The Iranis, Chinese and the Russians do!......already the BRICS controls 33% of the world GDP. The G-7 the other 27%.......Things are changing.....

You know a little too much about iran