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Iran plays down Israel's strikes, says they caused 'limited damage'

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A general view of Tehran after several explosions were heard, in Tehran, Iran, October 26, 2024. Photo: Reuters/Majid Asgaripour
  • Targets did not include energy or nuclear facilities, US says​
  • Biden says he hopes the strikes are the end of the confrontation​
  • US was notified by Israel in advance, official says​
  • Iran says it has 'responsibilities towards regional peace and security'​
  • Iran says it suffered four dead and some limited damage​
Iran on Saturday played down Israel's overnight air attack against Iranian military targets, saying it caused only limited damage, as US President Joe Biden called for a halt to escalation that has raised fears of an all-out conflagration in the Middle East.

Scores of Israeli jets completed three waves of strikes before dawn against missile factories and other sites near Tehran and in western Iran, Israel's military said.

It was retaliation for Iran's Oct. 1 attack on Israel with about 200 ballistic missiles, and Israel warned its heavily armed arch-foe not to hit back after the latest strike.

Iran condemned the Israeli raid and its foreign ministry said Iran was "entitled and obligated" to defend itself. But it added that it "recognises its responsibilities towards regional peace and security," a more conciliatory statement than after previous bouts of escalation.

Iran's military said the Israeli warplanes used "very light warheads" to target border radar systems in the provinces of Ilam, Khuzestan and around Tehran.

"Enemy planes were prevented from entering the country's airspace... and the attack caused limited damage," Iran's military joint staff said in a statement.

David Albright, a former U.N. nuclear weapons inspector, said low resolution commercial satellite imagery appeared to show that one Israeli strike hit the sprawling Parchin military complex near Tehran, damaging three buildings, including two where solid fuel was mixed for ballistic missile engines.

Tensions between Iran and Israel have grown rapidly since the Oct. 7, 2023 attack on Israel by Iran-backed Hamas, raising fears of a wider regional conflict that could drag in global powers and imperil world energy supplies.

Worsening conflict in Lebanon, where Israel is waging an intense campaign against Iran's main regional ally Hezbollah to stop it firing rockets into northern Israel, has raised the temperature still further.

The United States, which had pressed Israel to avoid targeting sensitive Iranian energy and nuclear sites, joined other countries in calling for a halt to the cycle of confrontation between Israel and Iran.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday that Israel had chosen the targets in Iran based on its national interests, not according to what was dictated by the United States.

Biden said the strikes appeared to have only hit military targets and added that he hoped they were "the end".

Vice President Kamala Harris, who hopes to succeed Biden by winning the Nov. 5 U.S. presidential election, said it was "the strong perspective of the United States that there must be de-escalation."

Two regional officials briefed by Iran told Reuters that several high-level meetings were held in Tehran to determine the scope of Iran's response. One official said the damage was "very minimal" but added that several Revolutionary Guards bases in and around Tehran were also hit.

Iranian news sites aired footage of passengers at Tehran's Mehrabad Airport, seemingly meant to show there was little impact.

Israel's military, signalling it did not expect an immediate Iranian response, said there was no change to public safety restrictions across the country.

'MESSAGE TO IRAN'

Beni Sabti, an Iran expert at Tel Aviv's Institute for National Security Studies, said the Israeli strike had appeared designed to give Tehran an opportunity to avoid further escalation.

"We see that Israel wants to close this event, to pass this message to Iran that it is closed and we don't want to escalate it," he said.

Videos carried by Iranian media showed air defences continuously firing at apparently incoming projectiles in central Tehran, without saying which sites were coming under attack.

Israel's military said its jets had struck missile manufacturing facilities and surface-to-air missile arrays, and safely returned home.

"If the regime in Iran were to make the mistake of beginning a new round of escalation, we will be obligated to respond," the military said.

Israel notified the US before striking, but Washington was not involved in the operation, a US official told Reuters. Targets did not include energy infrastructure or Iran's nuclear facilities, a US official said.

In the days after Iran's strikes on Israel this month, Biden had warned that Washington, Israel's main backer and supplier of arms, would not support a retaliatory strike on Tehran's nuclear sites and had said Israel should consider alternatives to attacking Iran's oil fields.

Arab states situated between Israel and Iran have been particularly worried that use of their airspace could prompt retaliation against them.

Jordanian television quoted a source in the country's armed forces as saying no military planes had been allowed through its airspace. A Saudi official also said that Saudi airspace had not been used for the strike.

A regional intelligence source said Israeli jets had flown across southern Syria, emitting sonic booms near the Jordanian border, and then across Iraq.

Saudi Arabia, which has mended fences with Iran after years of regional rivalry, and had been edging towards better ties with Israel before the war in Gaza, condemned the attack as a violation of Iranian sovereignty and international law.

LEBANON CONFLICT

Israel's military eased some safety restrictions for residents in areas of northern Israel late on Saturday, a possible indication that it does not expect any immediate large-scale attack from Iran or its proxies in the region.

The decision followed a "situational assessment", it said in a statement.

Still, Lebanon's Hezbollah warned residents of more than two dozen towns in northern Israel to immediately evacuate, saying they had become legitimate targets because it said Israeli troops were stationed there.

Israel meanwhile said it had struck Hezbollah facilities in Beirut's southern Dahiyeh suburb including a weapons-making site and an intelligence headquarters.

The conflict in Lebanon, which has greatly intensified in recent weeks, has also led to strikes on sites linked to Iran and Hezbollah in Syria.

Israel launched airstrikes against some military sites in central and southern Syria early on Saturday, Syrian state news agency SANA reported. Israel has not confirmed striking Syria.Efforts to secure a ceasefire and hostage-release deal in Gaza, which could help cool the wider conflict, are expected to resume in Doha when negotiators fly there on Sunday.​
 

Israel Strikes: Iran says it will defend itself
  • Limited damage but 2 soldiers killed: Iran​
  • Targets did not include energy or nuclear facilities: US​

Iran warned yesterday it would defend itself after Israeli air strikes on military targets killed at least two soldiers and further stoked fears of a full-scale regional war in the Middle East.

Israel warned Iran would "pay a heavy price" if it responded to the strikes, and the United States, Germany and Britain demanded Tehran not escalate the conflict further.

Other countries, including many of Iran's neighbours, condemned Israel's strikes and some, such as Russia, urged both sides to show restraint and avoid what Moscow dubbed a "catastrophic scenario".

The Islamic republic insisted it had the "right and the duty" to defend itself, while its Lebanese ally Hezbollah said it had already launched rocket salvos targeting five residential areas in northern Israel.

The Israeli army said 80 projectiles were fired across the border yesterday.

Confirming its own strikes after explosions and anti-aircraft fire echoed around Tehran, the Israel military said it had hit Iranian missile factories and military facilities in several regions.

The "retaliatory strike has been completed and the mission was fulfilled", while Israeli aircraft "returned safely", a military spokesman added.

Iran confirmed Israel had targeted military sites in Tehran province around the capital and other parts of the country, saying the raids caused "limited damage" but killed two soldiers.

DIRECT ATTACK

Israel had vowed to retaliate after October 1, when Iran fired around 200 missiles in only the second-ever direct attack against its arch-foe. Most of those missiles were intercepted, but one person was killed.

The Israeli retaliation drew condemnation from Hamas, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia, which warned against further escalation. Jordan stated that Israeli jets had not used its airspace. Turkey was one of the most outspoken critics, calling for an end to "terror created by Israel".

Israel is already engaged in combat on two fronts.

Since last month, it has been fighting a war against Hezbollah in Lebanon, including strikes that have killed the group's senior leadership and ground incursions seeking to destroy missile sites.

And, for more than a year since Hamas's October 7, 2023, attack, Israel has been fighting a war in Gaza that has caused mass civilian casualties in the densely populated Palestinian territory.

The United Nations has warned the "darkest moment" of that conflict was unfolding, with Palestinians facing a dire humanitarian crisis and daily Israeli bombing.

Along with Hezbollah and Hamas, Iranian-allied groups in Yemen, Iraq and Syria, have carried out attacks during the fallout from the Gaza war.

At roughly the same time as Israel struck targets in Iran, the Syrian state news agency SANA said an Israeli air attack targeted military positions in central and southern Syria.

'IRANIAN PROXIES'

The Islamic Resistance in Iraq, a loose network of pro-Iran factions, claimed responsibility before dawn yesterday for a drone attack against a "military target" in northern Israel.

On Friday, two people died from shrapnel wounds after a Hezbollah rocket barrage into Israel's north, Israeli officials said.

In addition to the residential strikes, Hezbollah said it had fired rockets at Israeli soldiers near the village of Aita al-Shaab in southern Lebanon and at an intelligence base as well as launching drones against Israel's Tel Nof air base south of Tel Aviv.

Yesterday, Lebanon's health ministry said an Israeli strike had killed a Hezbollah-affiliated medic in Bazuriyeh in the south of the country.

US National Security Council spokesman Sean Savett said Israel's response to Iran was "an exercise in self-defence".

He urged Iran to "cease its attacks on Israel so that this cycle of fighting can end without further escalation".

The Israeli military has blamed "Iran and its proxies" in the region for "relentlessly attacking Israel since October 7", when Hamas's attack against Israel triggered the Gaza war.

That attack resulted in the deaths of 1,206 people, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally of official Israeli figures.

Dozens of hostages seized on that day are still held in Gaza.

Israel's retaliatory bombardment and ground war in Gaza have killed 42,924 people, the majority civilians, according to data from the Hamas-run territory's health ministry, figures the United Nations considers reliable.

In late September, Israel turned its focus to Lebanon hitting, Hezbollah targets and leaders and then sending in ground troops.

Israel says the aim is to make the north of its country safe for tens of thousands of displaced civilians to return.

At least 1,580 people have been killed in Lebanon since September 23, according to an AFP tally of Lebanese health ministry figures.

In April, in its first-ever direct assault against Israeli territory, Iran launched more than 300 drones and missiles.

Tehran said the barrage was retaliation for a strike on Iran's consular annexe in Damascus that killed members of its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Explosions later in April shook Iran's Isfahan province in what US officials, cited by American media, said was Israeli retaliation.

HOSPITAL UNDER THREAT

Iran said its October 1 missile attack on Israel was retaliation for an Israeli air raid that killed Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah as well as the assassination in Tehran of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh.

On Friday, Gaza's health ministry accused Israeli forces of storming the last functioning hospital in the territory's north in a raid it said left two children dead.

The Israeli military said its forces were operating around Kamal Adwan Hospital in north Gaza's Jabalia refugee camp but it was "not aware of live fire and strikes in the area of the hospital".

The Israeli military says it is seeking to destroy operational capabilities Hamas is trying to rebuild in the north.

Also on Friday, Gaza's civil defence agency said Israeli drone strikes killed 12 people waiting to receive aid near the Al-Shati refugee camp.​
 
Yaar China k hathyaar koi nahi khareedta. I mean their gadgets are just toys. Everyone knows…..

You know the entire issue is the intent to do something. China is solely focused on playing businessman.

Irans fukking focused on hegemony and trying resurrect the Sassanian kingdom. They’re almost there……just gotta play it kool. Easy does it…..
They could so easily slip into the role of regional co-hegemon along with the Gulfie lot (who are led by the al Sauds)

make serious bank

get proper access to all sorts of weapons systems and tech transfers and collabs and investments pouring in... if only they stopped being so fuggin' stubborn about dying on the Palestinian hill !
 
Israel’s attack fizzled out. Hard to believe they launched 68 aero ballistic missiles toward Iran and only 6 made it thru, out of which only 2 actually hit that air defense site, killing 4 soldiers.

I wonder how many Israelis died when 90% of of the 200 Iranian hypersonic missiles hit the Tel Nov and Nevatim complexes……😝

Israel is just so fulla shiit.
 
They could so easily slip into the role of regional co-hegemon along with the Gulfie lot (who are led by the al Sauds)

make serious bank

get proper access to all sorts of weapons systems and tech transfers and collabs and investments pouring in... if only they stopped being so fuggin' stubborn about dying on the Palestinian hill !

So much happening and so fast.
 
Israel’s attack fizzled out. Hard to believe they launched 68 aero ballistic missiles toward Iran and only 6 made it thru, out of which only 2 actually hit that air defense site, killing 4 soldiers.

I wonder how many Israelis died when 90% of of the 200 Iranian hypersonic missiles hit the Tel Nov and Nevatim complexes……😝

Israel is just so fulla shiit.
Wait for the gloves to come off.. abhi buss high level sabre rattling chal ree hai.

2 haftey ruko, resolute desk ke peeche waali kursi pe kiski gaan' tashreef lagai gi.. us pe depend hai total mamla and how it goes fwd.

Notice how both Trump and kumla devi both haven't said much, they waiting to get in first, them pentagon and generals k saath consult kar ke they'll decide how to act.
 

Israel hit Iran missile fuel-mixing facilities
Say researchers after analysing satellite photos

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An American researcher said an Israeli airstrike on Saturday hit a building that was part of Iran's defunct nuclear weapons development program, and he and another researcher said facilities used to mix solid fuel for missiles also were struck.

The assessments based on commercial satellite imagery were reached separately by David Albright, a former UN weapons inspector, and Decker Eveleth, an associate research analyst at CNA, a Washington think tank.

They told Reuters that Israel struck buildings in Parchin, a massive military complex near Tehran. Israel also hit Khojir, according to Eveleth, a sprawling missile production site near Tehran. Reuters reported in July that Khojir was undergoing massive expansion.

Eveleth said the Israeli strikes may have "significantly hampered Iran's ability to mass produce missiles."

The Israeli military said three waves of Israeli jets struck missile factories and other sites near Tehran and in western Iran early on Saturday in retaliation for Tehran's October 1 barrage of more than 200 missiles against Israel.

Palestinians inspect the site of an Israeli strike on a school sheltering displaced people in Beit Lahia, Gaza City yesterday. The directors of the CIA and Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency will meet with Qatar’s prime minister in Doha to discuss a ceasefire in Gaza. Photo: AFP
Iran's military said the Israeli warplanes used "very light warheads" to strike border radar systems in the provinces of Ilam, Khuzestan and around Tehran.

In posts on X, Albright said commercial satellite imagery showed that Israel hit a building in Parchin called Taleghan 2 that was used for testing activities during the Amad Plan, Iran's defunct nuclear weapons development program.

The UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and US intelligence say Iran shuttered the program in 2003. Iran denies pursuing nuclear weapons.

Albright, head of the Institute for Science and International Security research group, was given access to the program's files for a book after they were stolen from Tehran by Israel's Mossad intelligence agency in 2018.

On X, he said the archives revealed that Iran kept important test equipment in Taleghan 2.

Iran may have removed key materials before the airstrike, he said, but "even if no equipment remained inside" the building would have provided "intrinsic value" for future nuclear weapons-related activities.

Albright told Reuters that commercial satellite imagery of Parchin showed Israel damaged three buildings about 350 yards (320 m) from Taleghan 2, including two in which solid fuel for ballistic missiles was mixed.

He did not identify the commercial firm from which he obtained the images.

Eveleth said an image of Parchin from Planet Labs, a commercial satellite firm, showed that Israel destroyed three ballistic missile solid fuel mixing buildings and a warehouse in the sprawling complex.

Planet Labs imagery also showed that an Israeli strike destroyed two buildings in the Khojir complex where solid fuel for ballistic missiles was mixed, he said.

The buildings were enclosed by high dirt berms, according to the image reviewed by Reuters. Such structures are associated with missile production and are designed to stop a blast in one building from detonating combustible materials in nearby structures.

"Israel says they targeted buildings housing solid-fuel mixers," Eveleth said. "These industrial mixers are hard to make and export-controlled. Iran imported many over the years at great expense, and will likely have a hard time replacing them," Eveleth added.​
 

Bangladesh condemns Israeli military strikes on Iran
Published :
Oct 27, 2024 23:56
Updated :
Oct 27, 2024 23:56

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Bangladesh has condemned Israel's military strikes on Iran, stressing the need for dialogue and respect for sovereignty as vital for fostering peace in the Middle East.

“Bangladesh unequivocally condemns the recent Israeli military strikes on the Islamic Republic of Iran, viewing these actions as a severe violation of Iran’s sovereignty and a breach of the United Nations Charter and international law,” said the foreign ministry in a statement on Sunday.

Israeli forces reportedly launched airstrikes on military installations in Tehran and two western provinces on Saturday according to bdnews24.com.

Although the Jewish state claimed to have conducted the attack using around 100 warplanes, Iran reported that four soldiers were killed and noted ‘limited damage’.

The Israeli military said its fighter jets targeted ‘missile factories and other military areas’ near Tehran and in western Iran.

Following a series of Israeli attacks on Iran's allies in the Middle East, Iran fired over 200 ballistic missiles at Israeli military bases on Oct 1, leading to Israel's retaliatory strikes on Saturday.

“Such provocations threaten to destabilise an already fragile region, with far-reaching consequences for regional and global peace and security,” the statement reads.

Bangladesh called on regional and global stakeholders to use their influence to exercise restraint to ease tensions.

“We stress that commitment to international norms, dialogue, and respect for sovereignty is paramount to maintaining stability in the Middle East region and beyond,” the statement said.

The statement concluded by urging the international community to act collectively in support of a stable Middle East, emphasising that diplomacy and mutual respect are the only viable paths to lasting peace​
 

Israel hit Iran missile fuel-mixing facilities
Say researchers after analysing satellite photos

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An American researcher said an Israeli airstrike on Saturday hit a building that was part of Iran's defunct nuclear weapons development program, and he and another researcher said facilities used to mix solid fuel for missiles also were struck.

The assessments based on commercial satellite imagery were reached separately by David Albright, a former UN weapons inspector, and Decker Eveleth, an associate research analyst at CNA, a Washington think tank.

They told Reuters that Israel struck buildings in Parchin, a massive military complex near Tehran. Israel also hit Khojir, according to Eveleth, a sprawling missile production site near Tehran. Reuters reported in July that Khojir was undergoing massive expansion.

Eveleth said the Israeli strikes may have "significantly hampered Iran's ability to mass produce missiles."

The Israeli military said three waves of Israeli jets struck missile factories and other sites near Tehran and in western Iran early on Saturday in retaliation for Tehran's October 1 barrage of more than 200 missiles against Israel.

Palestinians inspect the site of an Israeli strike on a school sheltering displaced people in Beit Lahia, Gaza City yesterday. The directors of the CIA and Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency will meet with Qatar’s prime minister in Doha to discuss a ceasefire in Gaza. Photo: AFP
Iran's military said the Israeli warplanes used "very light warheads" to strike border radar systems in the provinces of Ilam, Khuzestan and around Tehran.

In posts on X, Albright said commercial satellite imagery showed that Israel hit a building in Parchin called Taleghan 2 that was used for testing activities during the Amad Plan, Iran's defunct nuclear weapons development program.

The UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and US intelligence say Iran shuttered the program in 2003. Iran denies pursuing nuclear weapons.

Albright, head of the Institute for Science and International Security research group, was given access to the program's files for a book after they were stolen from Tehran by Israel's Mossad intelligence agency in 2018.

On X, he said the archives revealed that Iran kept important test equipment in Taleghan 2.

Iran may have removed key materials before the airstrike, he said, but "even if no equipment remained inside" the building would have provided "intrinsic value" for future nuclear weapons-related activities.

Albright told Reuters that commercial satellite imagery of Parchin showed Israel damaged three buildings about 350 yards (320 m) from Taleghan 2, including two in which solid fuel for ballistic missiles was mixed.

He did not identify the commercial firm from which he obtained the images.

Eveleth said an image of Parchin from Planet Labs, a commercial satellite firm, showed that Israel destroyed three ballistic missile solid fuel mixing buildings and a warehouse in the sprawling complex.

Planet Labs imagery also showed that an Israeli strike destroyed two buildings in the Khojir complex where solid fuel for ballistic missiles was mixed, he said.

The buildings were enclosed by high dirt berms, according to the image reviewed by Reuters. Such structures are associated with missile production and are designed to stop a blast in one building from detonating combustible materials in nearby structures.

"Israel says they targeted buildings housing solid-fuel mixers," Eveleth said. "These industrial mixers are hard to make and export-controlled. Iran imported many over the years at great expense, and will likely have a hard time replacing them," Eveleth added.​
Bhai 200kg warheads of Lora, Silver Sparrow and Popeye aero-Ballistic missiles vs 50m buried 6 foot thick reinforced concrete walls of bunker type facilities with ready made concrete mixers worth a couple of thousand dollars each and Israel spent a billion dollars in a vain attempt to target them?

It’s pathetic!

Only way to take them out is to use the B-61 bunker busters and for that the F-15 has to overfly these sites.

Irans too hard a target for Israel.
 
Bhai 200kg warheads of Lora, Silver Sparrow and Popeye aero-Ballistic missiles vs 50m buried 6 foot thick reinforced concrete walls of bunker type facilities with ready made concrete mixers worth a couple of thousand dollars each and Israel spent a billion dollars in a vain attempt to target them?

It’s pathetic!

Only way to take them out is to use the B-61 bunker busters and for that the F-15 has to overfly these sites.

Irans too hard a target for Israel.
apart from maybe scoring the odd S 300 kill

Tehran etc gonna end up like Gaza if the Jew goes whole hog on them.

Very perplexing, this, bhai.. your full-ultra-sapport narrative about Israel being nothing, a walkover if the mullas put their minds to it.

You seem convinced Iran can khallas them in a hot second type stuff.

Chakkar kya hai, Lull bhaijaan, zara pls samjhaien.

My analysis:

I concede, in a long and protracted conventional conflict, small yahudi hornet's nest stands no chance against a sustained attack by a hungry bear.. they will destroy the net, not be bothered much by stings, and will leave it in ruins by the time bear done dinner, queen bhi khaa jayega bhalu.

That's not the case here, it is not the Jew standing alone, bhai.. full of mighty US/NATO miltrian utar aani hain inko defend karne.. think Iraq, Libya, Syria..

.. unless they can do a khull ke aatmi dhamaka !

Given all that, I happen to think it is Iran who are screwed.

disclaimer: for the bazzilionth time.. I am not a full sapport Ijrael guy, at all, like not even close, k ?
 
apart from maybe scoring the odd S 300 kill

Tehran etc gonna end up like Gaza if the Jew goes whole hog on them.

Very perplexing, this, bhai.. your full-ultra-sapport narrative about Israel being nothing, a walkover if the mullas put their minds to it.

You seem convinced Iran can khallas them in a hot second type stuff.

Chakkar kya hai, Lull bhaijaan, zara pls samjhaien.

My analysis:

I concede, in a long and protracted conventional conflict, small yahudi hornet's nest stands no chance against a sustained attack by a hungry bear.. they will destroy the net, not be bothered much by stings, and will leave it in ruins by the time bear done dinner, queen bhi khaa jayega bhalu.

That's not the case here, it is not the Jew standing alone, bhai.. full of mighty US/NATO miltrian utar aani hain inko defend karne.. think Iraq, Libya, Syria..

.. unless they can do a khull ke aatmi dhamaka !

Given all that, I happen to think it is Iran who are screwed.

disclaimer: for the bazzilionth time.. I am not a full sapport Ijrael guy, at all, like not even close, k ?
Bhai aap jang dekh re ho na? Both Ukraine and ijh-raheel are long grinding conflicts and will be fought until one side gives up.

Just like Afghanistan bhai.

One day, the west will walk away from both Ukraine and ijh-raheel.

That’s all there is to it.

It costs Iran and Russia a lot less to wage war. That’s why they will win this.
 
Bhai aap jang dekh re ho na? Both Ukraine and ijh-raheel are long grinding conflicts and will be fought until one side gives up.

Just like Afghanistan bhai.

One day, the west will walk away from both Ukraine and ijh-raheel.

That’s all there is to it.

It costs Iran and Russia a lot less to wage war. That’s why they will win this.

Essentially they have more blood.

More treasure.

More land.

Ukraine is already at a point where their male population is decimated to a point beyond recovery for birthing a new fighting generation.

And Ukraine in many many times larger than the population of Jews in Israel.
 
Bhai aap jang dekh re ho na? Both Ukraine and ijh-raheel are long grinding conflicts and will be fought until one side gives up.

Just like Afghanistan bhai.

One day, the west will walk away from both Ukraine and ijh-raheel.

That’s all there is to it.

It costs Iran and Russia a lot less to wage war. That’s why they will win this.
That one day is probably a few decades away at the very least. Abhi ki baat karo, not some romanticized fairy-tale of a victory in the distant future.

"until one side gives up" .. you srsly think the Jew is going to ever "give up" ?

o bhai, even if kal ko (allah na karey) that the US goes full lefty socialist and abandons the Jew...

the Jew will then resort to the Samson's option if pressed too hard against a corner

Watch Ukraine and the rhetoric around it in US circles, they fed up, no want war with Russia...

but Jews got an iron grip on their polity for now, narratives bhi bhot alag hain about these 2 ongoing clusterfugs.

Israel thing is a religious blah... they used their money power to basically remove the threat from 70 - 80% of the muslim world (sunni, regional monarchies in specific)

Russia thing, ethno nat Poles no want war with the Slavs just east, even though they have a big animus against them from Soviet times.. they hate commies like nobody else, the Poles.

Russia will anyway be forced to jettison Iran from its strategic calculus if the noose starts tightening.

For Russia, Iran is a bulkhead, and a stabilizing balance in an already volatile region.. if Iran falls, Russia is next.. and then we're really really looking at the prospect of srs nuclear conflict.

Tabhi toh keh ra hu pancho, Iran.. do that test, NOW !

warna ye domino girnay wala hai

India and Pakistan bhi eventually lapatey me aa jayengey..

ww3

hor dasso, ki gal
 
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