[🇪🇬] Egypt’s purchase of a Chinese fighter jet is a reminder Cold War tactics are back in the Middle East

[LegionnairE]

Turkey is a different case and is a member of NATO.

They started manufacturing advanced platforms like German Frigates and assembling F-16s three or four decades ago.

I'd say Turkey's weapons and armor factories are as advanced as Iran's - if not more. Bayrakter etc. didn't just happen overnight.

Low cost is one thing, which does not prove advantageous in every scenario. Volume of onslaught can overcome tech, but only in certain scenarios, like missiles against Israel.

@LegionnairE I hope I'm not too off-base...

I would add that we're not as desperate as Iran. We have more money.

 

[LegionnairE]

Bhai despite access to western technology, Turkey is very limited in what it can do in the region. Their biggest vulnerability is being tied into the western economic system. They'll do what the West wants them to do and can't do what actually benefits them.

That's a different subject and I don't disagree but try to understand how much iran has lost.

Iran before the revolution was a much stronger country than it is now.. They make cheap weapons but %99 of them miss their targets. Our "trainer" Hürjet is a much more advanced plane than Iran's "5th gen stealth fighter."

It's embarrassing. They don't have an air force. They don't have a navy beyond coastal defence. They have some 50-60 year old ships, some speed boats and a couple of weird catamarans.

Not only they are isolated from the west, they don't cooperate with Russia and China to resolve these problems either.

 

[Lulldapull]

That's a different subject and I don't disagree but try to understand how much iran has lost.

Iran before the revolution was a much stronger country than it is now.. They make cheap weapons but %99 of them miss their targets. Our "trainer" Hürjet is a much more advanced plane than Iran's "5th gen stealth fighter."

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It's embarrassing. They don't have an air force. They don't have a navy beyond coastal defence. They have some 50-60 year old ships, some speed boats and a couple of weird catamarans.

Not only they are isolated from the west, they don't cooperate with Russia and China to resolve these problems either.

You guys need to wean yourselves off of the western capitalist corporate system or else you can never be sovereign. These Al-Gurdish terrorists for you and these Pashto afghani terrorists for us is all we’ve got to show for complying with western policy.

Irans far better off of us bro. You need to see it to understand it. China’s offered Iran a half a trillion development package but the iranis are not biting, 5 years and counting seeing the cpec disaster in Pakistan and their own negative experience with China.

If you don’t have sovereignty to decide what’s good for you and what’s not good for you, you won’t make it.

 

[ChineseExpert]

That's a different subject and I don't disagree but try to understand how much iran has lost.

Iran before the revolution was a much stronger country than it is now.. They make cheap weapons but %99 of them miss their targets. Our "trainer" Hürjet is a much more advanced plane than Iran's "5th gen stealth fighter."

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It's embarrassing. They don't have an air force. They don't have a navy beyond coastal defence. They have some 50-60 year old ships, some speed boats and a couple of weird catamarans.

Not only they are isolated from the west, they don't cooperate with Russia and China to resolve these problems either.

@Jiangnan Do you think India can even manage Turkish or Iranian made Jets?

 

[Jiangnan]

@Jiangnan Do you think India can even manage Turkish or Iranian made Jets?

I don't know.

 

[Lulldapull]

When I’ve been saying fighter jets are obsolete for years looking at all these modern wars happening in Ukraine and the ME and I’m an idiota no?

But now cuz Eelond musk ka ulla says it so it must be gospel no? I’m so disappointed in subcontinent people and how they think.

They don’t understand or refuse to see the obvious!

Is it inferiority complex? Or is it because of centuries of servitude to the west?

Now that Irans totally changed the nature of warfare then the Iranians must be stupid? Or is it that the coloreds can’t acknowledge reality?

Iran figured this tid bit out 2 fukking decades ago! And today is laughing at all the other chutiya countries……



@Sharma Ji @Vsdoc @Guru Dutt @PakistanProud @Dogun18 @Bilal9 @RayKalm @Azad Kashmir @Bagheera0084

 

[Sharma Ji]

So Egypt has western, russian, and now chinese fighters ?

When I’ve been saying fighter jets are obsolete for years looking at all these modern wars happening in Ukraine and the ME and I’m an idiota no?

But now cuz Eelond musk ka ulla says it so it must be gospel no? I’m so disappointed in subcontinent people and how they think.

They don’t understand or refuse to see the obvious!

Is it inferiority complex? Or is it because of centuries of servitude to the west?

Now that Irans totally changed the nature of warfare then the Iranians must be stupid? Or is it that the coloreds can’t acknowledge reality?

Iran figured this tid bit out 2 fukking decades ago! And today is laughing at all the other chutiya countries……



@Sharma Ji @Vsdoc @Guru Dutt @PakistanProud @Dogun18 @Bilal9 @RayKalm @Azad Kashmir @Bagheera0084

Fighter jets mangta, boss.

There's plenty of use cases for them still, man.

Kya bolta hai tum ? Bakwaas

 

[Lulldapull]

So Egypt has western, russian, and now chinese fighters ?

Fighter jets mangta, boss.

There's plenty of use cases for them still, man.

Kya bolta hai tum ? Bakwaas

Oh bhai who mangta? Only ghareeb log mangta no? Eeelond musk nahi mangta cuz he thinks eff thurrtty faav is chutiya.

And Egypt is also not mangta cuz US refusing to sell weapons to Muslim countries now.

And when the US refuses to sell to ghareeb then you get referred to China by default cuz Russia busted ass now.

 

[Jiangnan]

Oh bhai who mangta? Only ghareeb log mangta no? Eeelond musk nahi mangta cuz he thinks eff thurrtty faav is chutiya.

And Egypt is also not mangta cuz US refusing to sell weapons to Muslim countries now.

And when the US refuses to sell to ghareeb then you get referred to China by default cuz Russia busted ass now.

I think the main reason is. Egypt has no other choice.

 

[Lulldapull]

I think the main reason is. Egypt has no other choice.

Egypt is totally bankrupt bro. They are on GCC life support and get some financial help from the US because of Camp David accords for making peace with Israel.