South Asia India scrambles as Bangladesh deploys TB2 drones, challenging regional hegemony

South Asia India scrambles as Bangladesh deploys TB2 drones, challenging regional hegemony
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These 6 TB-2's purchased by Bangladesh wouldn't make any diff. They failed in Ukraine, Syria and Iraq.

Already long obsolete folks.

They easily get shot down specially around dense population centers/ heavily defended areas. Just like the CH-4/ Wing-Loong's.

They'll have no impact at the end of the day.

Sawdi's tried using similar Ch-4's Wing-Loongs in Yemen and it was a total fail.
 
These 6 TB-2's purchased by Bangladesh wouldn't make any diff. They failed in Ukraine, Syria and Iraq.

Already long obsolete folks.

They easily get shot down specially around dense population centers/ heavily defended areas. Just like the CH-4/ Wing-Loong's.

They'll have no impact at the end of the day.

Sawdi's tried using similar Ch-4's Wing-Loongs in Yemen and it was a total fail.

Let them be happy. Now they face food issue on one side and Arkan Army is screwing them from Myanmar side. They have a right to be happy in such environment.

@Jiangnan can add to their happiness or be a participant in their happiness by adding to their fun with offer of sale of J10. 19 of which has fallen till date and @Jiangnan is silent on that.
 
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Let them be happy. Now adays they face food issue and Arkan Army is screwing them from Mynmar side, They have a right to be happy.

@Jiangnan can add to their happiness or be a participant in their happiness by adding to their fun with offer of sale of J10. 19 of which has fallen till date and @Jiangnan is silent on that.
no, Please do not lie. I never deny that the J-10 crashed. J-10C served in Pakistan for three years. meanwhile. More than 50 low-quality Russian/French aircraft have crashed in India. Indians kneel down in their dreams begging for J-10C to crash.

My opinion is just ~ India. A backward agricultural country. Even unable to manufacture the airframe. 🤣 So India begs SU-57.

Now I officially announce: J-7 is enough to slaughter Rafale! Based on the Indian MiG-21 shooting down F-16! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
no, Please do not lie. I never deny that the J-10 crashed. J-10C served in Pakistan for three years. meanwhile. More than 50 low-quality Russian/French aircraft have crashed in India. Indians kneel down in their dreams begging for J-10C to crash.

My opinion is just ~ India. A backward agricultural country. Even unable to manufacture the airframe. 🤣 So India begs SU-57.

Now I officially announce: J-7 is enough to slaughter Rafale! Based on the Indian MiG-21 shooting down F-16! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
19 have fallen down atleast. This doesn't include the aircraft down and China successfully hide it.

Those Russian planes which were down were over 5 decades old and considered 1st and IInd generation. J10 is in competition with Mig 21 in falling from sky. Actually, it is Mig 21 sort of plane and hence compete with Mig21 in crash. By the way Chinese army still uses Mig 21 inspite of J1 to J100 in service. Afterall, China needs some reliable Russian fighter to protect Chinese sky. China has the choice in the form of Mig-21.

By the way, 1 Tejas has fallen since 2001 when it flew for the first time.
 
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19 have fallen down atleast. This doesn't include the aircraft down and China successfully hide it.

Those Russian planes which were down were over 5 decades old and considered 1st and IInd generation. J10 is in competition with Mig 21 in falling from sky. Actually, it is Mig 21 sort of plane and hence compete with Mig21 in crash. By the way Chinese army still uses Mig 21 inspite of J1 to J100 in service. Afterall, China needs some reliable Russian fighter to protect Chinese sky. China has the choice in the form of Mig-21.

By the way, 1 Tejas has fallen since 2001 when it flew for the first time.
Balabalabalabala. How many MiG-21s does China have? When will China buy MiG-21? Please.🤣🤣🤣

Indians: low IQ, low education, confused logic, lying every minute.

Considering that the “Indian MIG-21 can shoot down the F-16”. I officially announce ~ Chinese J-7 massacred little Rafale on a large scale! 🤣🤣🤣

PS: Because the US has stopped providing engines to India. Indian Tejas stops flying (of course, it has rarely flown) 😂😂😂
 
19 have fallen down atleast. This doesn't include the aircraft down and China successfully hide it.

Those Russian planes which were down were over 5 decades old and considered 1st and IInd generation. J10 is in competition with Mig 21 in falling from sky. Actually, it is Mig 21 sort of plane and hence compete with Mig21 in crash. By the way Chinese army still uses Mig 21 inspite of J1 to J100 in service. Afterall, China needs some reliable Russian fighter to protect Chinese sky. China has the choice in the form of Mig-21.

By the way, 1 Tejas has fallen since 2001 when it flew for the first time.
Let's appreciate the logic of Indians....

India promotes that 'Tejas can fly' and then sent MiG-21s to invade Pakistan.

India promotes “MiG-21 shoots down F-16”, Then beg for Rafale.

India promotes that the little Rafale is only weaker than the F-22. Then India requested SU-57.

India announces that “China has MiG-21”. “1000 Chinese J-10C have crashed”...

then

J-10C patrols the entire Asia!

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@Bilal9 @Saif @Vsdoc @Dogun18 How do you evaluate Indians?
 
Balabalabalabala. How many MiG-21s does China have? When will China buy MiG-21? Please.🤣🤣🤣

Indians: low IQ, low education, confused logic, lying every minute.

Considering that the “Indian MIG-21 can shoot down the F-16”. I officially announce ~ Chinese J-7 massacred little Rafale on a large scale! 🤣🤣🤣

PS: Because the US has stopped providing engines to India. Indian Tejas stops flying (of course, it has rarely flown) 😂😂😂

You can announce that because you believe that Xi is an elected prime minister of China.
 
Let's appreciate the logic of Indians....

India promotes that 'Tejas can fly' and then sent MiG-21s to invade Pakistan.

India promotes “MiG-21 shoots down F-16”, Then beg for Rafale.

India promotes that the little Rafale is only weaker than the F-22. Then India requested SU-57.

India announces that “China has MiG-21”. “1000 Chinese J-10C have crashed”...

then

J-10C patrols the entire Asia!

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@Bilal9 @Saif @Vsdoc @Dogun18 How do you evaluate Indians?

Good logic. This need serious answer.

1. Tejas was not deployed at Pakistan Border at that time. Now it is. If any conflict happens, Tejas will fly to counter any Pakistani plane now.
2. F-16 is a far better aircraft of 4th generation. When Mig 21 shoot down f-16, it was a rare event. It can happen in only one of ten encounter. In 9 or even 19 encounters, F-16 will shoot down Mig 21. Since Mig 21 was accompanied buy MKIs, F16 returned which gave an advantage to Mig 21 to fire its missile.
3. Rafale with Eurofighter is 4+++ generation plane just behind f22. Su 57 is fifth generation plane but lacks the capability of F22. It has better low observability and speed. So far as agility is concerned, It is best in the world. In electronics and EW, Rafale is ahead. So basically, it is a tie between the two. India will either buy Su 57 or Rafale or even Eurofighter. If India goes for Su57, there will be heavy modification in terms of Electronics like what India did with MKI.
I have announced only to the extent available on open source. I quoted the link of how many J10 crashed with all details such as extent of damage and whether pilot killed or survived. I do not do any trickery like you.
 
Good logic. This need serious answer.

1. Tejas was not deployed at Pakistan Border at that time. Now it is. If any conflict happens, Tejas will fly to counter any Pakistani plane now.
2. F-16 is a far better aircraft of 4th generation. When Mig 21 shoot down f-16, it was a rare event. It can happen in only one of ten encounter. In 9 or even 19 encounters, F-16 will shoot down Mig 21. Since Mig 21 was accompanied buy MKIs, F16 returned which gave an advantage to Mig 21 to fire its missile.
3. Rafale with Eurofighter is 4+++ generation plane just behind f22. Su 57 is fifth generation plane but lacks the capability of F22. It has better low observability and speed. So far as agility is concerned, It is best in the world. In electronics and EW, Rafale is ahead. So basically, it is a tie between the two. India will either buy Su 57 or Rafale or even Eurofighter. If India goes for Su57, there will be heavy modification in terms of Electronics like what India did with MKI.
I have announced only to the extent available on open source. I quoted the link of how many J10 crashed with all details such as extent of damage and whether pilot killed or survived. I do not do any trickery like you.
Balabalabala.... J-10C patrol near New Delhi! Overlooking the entire India!

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India. A backward agricultural country! Even a qualified rifle cannot be manufactured! J-10C can massacre the Indian Air Force on a large scale!🤣🤣🤣
 
Let's appreciate the logic of Indians....

India promotes that 'Tejas can fly' and then sent MiG-21s to invade Pakistan.

India promotes “MiG-21 shoots down F-16”, Then beg for Rafale.

India promotes that the little Rafale is only weaker than the F-22. Then India requested SU-57.

India announces that “China has MiG-21”. “1000 Chinese J-10C have crashed”...

then

J-10C patrols the entire Asia!

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@Bilal9 @Saif @Vsdoc @Dogun18 How do you evaluate Indians?

Bro I am an Indian. 🤣👊
 
Let's appreciate the logic of Indians....

India promotes that 'Tejas can fly' and then sent MiG-21s to invade Pakistan.

India promotes “MiG-21 shoots down F-16”, Then beg for Rafale.

India promotes that the little Rafale is only weaker than the F-22. Then India requested SU-57.

India announces that “China has MiG-21”. “1000 Chinese J-10C have crashed”...

then

J-10C patrols the entire Asia!

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@Bilal9 @Saif @Vsdoc @Dogun18 How do you evaluate Indians?

Well no one is saying that Psy-Ops or War-of-Words is an outdated practice.

Indians are using these techniques.
 
These 6 TB-2's purchased by Bangladesh wouldn't make any diff. They failed in Ukraine, Syria and Iraq.

Already long obsolete folks.

Failed? This little tactical drone destroyed S300 systems and was crucial in sinking the Russian flahship Moskva.

Damage it inflicted is in Billions of dollars with a B. What more does it have to do to be a success in your opinion? lol

How can you be so consistently wrong about everything. According to you Iran was going to kick our asses in Syria. What happened?
 
Failed? This little tactical drone destroyed S300 systems and was crucial in sinking the Russian flahship Moskva.

Damage it inflicted is in Billions of dollars with a B. What more does it have to do to be a success in your opinion? lol

How can you be so consistently wrong about everything. According to you Iran was going to kick our asses in Syria. What happened?
Man Turkish drones have disappeared from every conflict. Haven't seen any in Ukraine for so long.

Syria was a seriously compromised/ infiltrated place. Assad's army melted away leaving the Russians and Iranians in the front lines. This was unacceptable. The SAA refused to fight.

Assad wanted reconstruction money from the GCC and asked Iranians to leave years ago.

Syria was never treated like a proxy by Iran.

If you refuse to fight for your country, no Iranian nor Russian ever will either.
 
Let's appreciate the logic of Indians....

India promotes that 'Tejas can fly' and then sent MiG-21s to invade Pakistan.

India promotes “MiG-21 shoots down F-16”, Then beg for Rafale.

India promotes that the little Rafale is only weaker than the F-22. Then India requested SU-57.

India announces that “China has MiG-21”. “1000 Chinese J-10C have crashed”...

then

J-10C patrols the entire Asia!

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@Bilal9 @Saif @Vsdoc @Dogun18 How do you evaluate Indians?
Indians have inflated ego. They think they are a superpower in the making. They keep arguing in a circular fashion. Better to avoid them. They have spent almost 40 years to develop Tejas......but have to import most of the critical parts to keep Tejas fly-worthy. Ignore the Indians.
 
These 6 TB-2's purchased by Bangladesh wouldn't make any diff. They failed in Ukraine, Syria and Iraq.

Already long obsolete folks.

They easily get shot down specially around dense population centers/ heavily defended areas. Just like the CH-4/ Wing-Loong's.

They'll have no impact at the end of the day.

Sawdi's tried using similar Ch-4's Wing-Loongs in Yemen and it was a total fail.

It's engine is piston engine. Good only for hobby.
 
lol another hot take :D

I guess Predator and Heron are hobby toys too since they are also piston driven. :ROFLMAO:

TB2 is the most successful UAV of aviation history. Changed the course of multiple wars.

Neither india nor any muslim country made anything ever this impactful. Since the first flight of Anka in 2010 to today within a few short years we became the world leader in drone technology and sales. TB2 alone was sold to over 30 countries. This is a record.

Your attempts to belittle this incredible success is pathetic.

So best of luck to change the course of war with India with these 6 drones..
 
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So best of luck to change for the course course of war with India.
I'm not interested in a war with india.

You're not even in my radar. I literally have zero posts about india here or anywhere else. I don't hate you I just don't think about you.

But Pakistan has these systems and you underestimate them at your own risk.
 
Balabalabala.... J-10C patrol near New Delhi! Overlooking the entire India!

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Failed? This little tactical drone destroyed S300 systems and was crucial in sinking the Russian flahship Moskva.

Damage it inflicted is in Billions of dollars with a B. What more does it have to do to be a success in your opinion? lol

How can you be so consistently wrong about everything. According to you Iran was going to kick our asses in Syria. What happened?

Don't mind his words. I think not a lot of users are using Bayraktars for A2G attacks. Next use in anger for Bayrakter and Aksangul both will be in South Asia. Bangladesh may be close to ordering Aksangul/Akinci.

@Saif bhai do you know more?
 
So best of luck to change the course of war with India with these 6 drones..

It's your media that is raising waves with the news that Bayraktars were deployed near the India Bangladesh border by Bangladesh. It started two weeks ago and every Indian news outlet had experts keep talking ad nauseum about Bayraktars.

Let's not belittle a platform before seeing some action - which hopefully won't ever happen...
 
World's third most powerful Airforce Scrambles with 6 outdated drones. You are never short of fun.
If you take into account the number jet fighters, IAF is definitely the 3rd largest air force in the world. But quality wise it is lagging far behind most of the European air forces.
 
If you take into account the number jet fighters, IAF is definitely the 3rd largest air force in the world. But quality wise it is lagging far behind most of the European air forces.

I am not talking about Numbers. I am talking about the Airforce power ranking.

 
It's your media that is raising waves with the news that Bayraktars were deployed near the India Bangladesh border by Bangladesh. It started two weeks ago and every Indian news outlet had experts keep talking ad nauseum about Bayraktars.

Let's not belittle a platform before seeing some action - which hopefully won't ever happen...

I am not referring to that. I am referring to what BD posters have written here.
 
Failed? This little tactical drone destroyed S300 systems and was crucial in sinking the Russian flahship Moskva.

Damage it inflicted is in Billions of dollars with a B. What more does it have to do to be a success in your opinion? lol

How can you be so consistently wrong about everything. According to you Iran was going to kick our asses in Syria. What happened?

First of all, No plane in world can destroy S300. This is not a single unit. It has multiple missile batteries located across a large geographical location. Its radar is located at one place and all these batteries are spread across many K.M. with 3 sorts of missiles with different ranges ranging from 40 to 300 K.M. It is possible to hit one battery at the most with one missile fire or drone but saying that S 300 was destroyed by drone is a pure ignorance. Even nuclear bomb cannot destroy S300.
 
Let them be happy. Now adays they face food issue and Arkan Army is screwing them from Mynmar side, They have a right to be happy.

@Jiangnan can add to their happiness or be a participant in their happiness by adding to their fun with offer of sale of J10. 19 of which has fallen till date and @Jiangnan is silent on that.
Bhai, TB-2's are now obsolete. They had a good run when they came out for an year or two but now they stand zero chance in Ukraine or against China or Iran or anybody with robust air defenses.

I believe they'll still work against the Afghani talibunnies or Somali warlords though:

 
Bhai, TB-2's are now obsolete. They had a good run when they came out for an year or two but now they stand zero chance in Ukraine or against China or Iran or anybody with robust air defenses.

I believe they'll still work against the Afghani talibunnies or Somali warlords though:


You missed the point of the article you quoted.

TB2s are more used in Recon now than in armed missile attack because of Russian defenses which have improved against incoming drones like Bayraktars.

But India is no Russia in that respect.

Still - Bangladesh Army (AFAIK) does not have any plans to use TB2s in armed mode for attacks.

BTW - they are also getting Akinci which is a higher capacity drone and can reportedly coordinate "wingman" style with existing fighters in Bangladesh inventory.
 
You missed the point of the article you quoted.

TB2s are more used in Recon now than in armed missile attack because of Russian defenses which have improved against incoming drones like Bayraktars.

But India is no Russia in that respect.

Still - Bangladesh Army (AFAIK) does not have any plans to use TB2s in armed mode for attacks.

BTW - they are also getting Akinci which is a higher capacity drone and can reportedly coordinate "wingman" style with existing fighters in Bangladesh inventory.
Man you'll never fight India like Pakistan will never fight them either.

And these sort of UCAV drones toting missiles have largely disappeared from Ukraine long ago due to severe losses.

Indian air defenses on its western borders are strong and these drones can only have limited success at best. I'm not sure what the deployment of SAM defenses is like on India's eastern borders, but recently India has significantly upgraded its SAM forces including fielding several locally developed systems.

Pakistan has a hundred Chinese and Turkish drones but has hardly ever used them against the talibunnies. Nobody knows the reason, but we are fairly confident that to use these assets properly you need excellent ISR preferably real time data/ intelligence gleaned from space based assets, which Pakistan has no access to.
 
Nonsense. The whole point of these UAVs is reconnaissance. It's the whole reason Turkey built them. Strike capability is secondary and it was added later.

Earlier on TAI ANKA and Heron UAVs would find where the terrorists are and we'd hit them with artillery.
They can't observe the terrorists for long no?, unless they's primitive talibunnies or Somali or Sudanese warlords of Boko Haram with no radar coverage on the spectrum.

The reason why the US predator campaign gained notoriety post 9-11 was that CIA satellites were watching the Af-Pak border 24/7/ 365. Not only did the CIA have real time visuals but also the acoustic eavesdropping no?

That's how the US could stay in Af-Pak for this long bhai.

Otherwise it would've been a lot shorter stay no?

Your TB-2's get a whole lotta help from NATO/ CIA assets, or they'd be worthless like the Pakistani drones no?

Iran's got its own spy satellites now......and yous barely got a space program.
 
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China lost 18 pilots in 19 crashes fro J10 alone.
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I am not looking down on India. But I have an obligation to tell everyone.

India. A backward agricultural country! Cannot manufacture qualified rifles. Cannot manufacture airframe.

Due to India's backwardness and weak industry. All Indian assembled/purchased fighter jets cannot receive proper maintenance and upkeep. So. The Indian Air Force is all Rubbish!

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I am not looking down on India. But I have an obligation to tell everyone.

India. A backward agricultural country! Cannot manufacture qualified rifles. Cannot manufacture airframe.

Due to India's backwardness and weak industry. All Indian assembled/purchased fighter jets cannot receive proper maintenance and upkeep. So. The Indian Air Force is all Rubbish!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


India has 31 squadron currently means 558 fighter aircrafts out of which 2374 crashed. When you have Chinese education in CCP reeducation camp, you believe so many things. This make them ideal candidate for Piza delivery boys and waiters.
 
Man you'll never fight India like Pakistan will never fight them either.

And these sort of UCAV drones toting missiles have largely disappeared from Ukraine long ago due to severe losses.

Indian air defenses on its western borders are strong and these drones can only have limited success at best. I'm not sure what the deployment of SAM defenses is like on India's eastern borders, but recently India has significantly upgraded its SAM forces including fielding several locally developed systems.

Pakistan has a hundred Chinese and Turkish drones but has hardly ever used them against the talibunnies. Nobody knows the reason, but we are fairly confident that to use these assets properly you need excellent ISR preferably real time data/ intelligence gleaned from space based assets, which Pakistan has no access to.

You are correct - without access to timely ISR information, aiming drones does not mean much.

I have some information that some Chinese ISR access may be available in Bangladesh, including use of BEIDOU satellites (analog to Russian GLONASS) for Chinese armament platforms. Whether that information can be integrated with Bairaktar or Aksungur platforms is an open question mark.

The restricted Beidou military service (3rd Generation) has a location accuracy of 10 centimeters, can be used for communication, and will supply information about the system status to the user. To date, the military service has been granted only to the People’s Liberation Army and to the Military of Pakistan.
 
India has 31 squadron currently means 558 fighter aircrafts out of which 2374 crashed. When you have Chinese education in CCP reeducation camp, you believe so many things. This make them ideal candidate for Piza delivery boys and waiters.

Can we stop with the off topic posts please?

What is this dire need for one-upmanship and that too with off topic comments ??
 
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Indian diaspora is most educated and most rich wherever they are. People say that we don't need to claim that.



Even pakistanis say that.



Indian diaspora in the US is disproportionately and overwhelmingly highly-educated IIT and IIM types who make a lot more money as healthcare, tech and IT professionals. Different class, different incomes.

Comparisons with other ethnicities and nationalities in the US is like comparing apples and oranges.

Now can we stop with the off topic posts ? Or will I start deleting posts again?
 
Nonsense. The whole point of these UAVs is reconnaissance. It's the whole reason Turkey built them. Strike capability is secondary and it was added later.

Earlier on TAI ANKA and Heron UAVs would find where the terrorists are and we'd hit them with artillery.
How true do you think this is?

 
Indian diaspora in the US is disproportionately and overwhelmingly highly-educated IIT and IIM types who make a lot more money as healthcare, tech and IT professionals. Different class, different incomes.

Comparisons with other ethnicities and nationalities in the US is like comparing apples and oranges.

Now can we stop with the off topic posts ? Or will I start deleting posts again?

Like a true moderator.
 
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