[🇮🇳] India's weapon supply to Armenia in absence of Russian weapon supply- Tracking all development

[Lulldapull]

Well a few things.

Iranians doesn't mean just Persian. Iranians are multi-ethnic just like Pakistani.

Turkic peoples arrived from Central Asia over a thousand years ago.

Pakistani people have been pro-Turkish because of the relationship between the two countries has been good.

But past few years the middle class has grown obsessed with Turkey because of Ertugul. Either way Pakistan also has a huge pro-Iran lobby.

We should be totally neutral in this Irani vs Turkish vs Kurdish vs Arab vs Armenian stupidity.

Taking sides here is the stupidest thing we can possibly do.

It will be yet another blunder we’d chalk up on our failure of foreign policy board.

 

[ThunderCat]

We should be totally neutral in this Irani vs Turkish vs Kurdish vs Arab vs Armenian stupidity.

Taking sides here is the stupidest thing we can possibly do.

It will be yet another blunder we’d chalk up on our failure of foreign policy board.

Agreed. Only that Turks are much friendlier to us on average than Iranians. Although there are exceptions.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

The problem what I have found in this Islamic/ Muslim state is that they want to make an alliance based on religion. That is unnatural because they have fought amongst themselves much more than what they have fought with others. Second thing is that their foreign policy is aggressive and not in the line with the power they have. They often try to act like a much more powerful nation than they are. As a result, they have created problem for themselves. Iran Iraq fought war without any significant reason. Pakistan Played Terror card against India and harmed itself. Turkey unnecessarily messed with Russia by shooting down Russian plane and when Putin threated to hit back, they spoiled the relations with US. Turkey unnecessarily interfered into India's matter which provoked India to side with Greece. Their foreign policy often run on the whims of either their leader/dictator or military general. Iran unnecessarily provoked India and couple of days later seek India's help to check Israel.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Ignorance from who? You? Probably.

The Armenians are the descendants of a branch of the Indo-Europeans. The ancient Greek historians Herodotus and Eudoxus of Rhodes related the Armenians to the Phrygians —who entered Asia Minor from Thrace —and to the peoples of the ancient kingdom upon whom the Phrygians imposed their rule and language.

Armenian (people) | Description, Culture, History, & Facts - Britannica​

www.britannica.com/topic/Armenian-people

 

[ThunderCat]

The Armenians are the descendants of a branch of the Indo-Europeans. The ancient Greek historians Herodotus and Eudoxus of Rhodes related the Armenians to the Phrygians —who entered Asia Minor from Thrace —and to the peoples of the ancient kingdom upon whom the Phrygians imposed their rule and language.

So?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

So?

So nothing. It is answers to something you had countered few post back.

 

[ThunderCat]

So nothing. It is answers to something you had countered few post back.

What does it answer? Armenians do not consider themselves Bharatis. Why would they? When even neighboring Pakistanis don't consider themselves Bharatis, why would faraway Armenians?

 

[Lulldapull]

Irani’s trying very hard to stay neutral between these itty bitty 2 bit countries and not taking sides. It’s already Christy-X-Tian vs muzlim third class drama guys. No point descending down in the pits folks. Religious war is unholy:

 

[ThunderCat]

Iran has been historically pro-Armenia but the Azeri population there is pro-Azerbaijan, understandably.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Armenia Orders 84 Additional 155mm ATAGS Artillery Systems to Counter Pressure from Azerbaijan​

• 9 Oct, 2024 - 10:23
• Defense News Army 2024

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Armenia has recently confirmed its plan to purchase an additional 84 Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS) of 155 mm/52 caliber from India, aiming to strengthen its defense capabilities as reported by IDRW. This move is part of Armenia's broader effort to modernize its military arsenal amid heightened regional tensions. In 2023, Armenia had already acquired six units of the same system from India, which recently completed successful operational tests across various Armenian locations.
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Designed to meet the current requirements of ground forces, the ATAGS has a maximum firing range of 48 km and can fire up to three rounds within 15 seconds (Picture source: Tata Advanced System)

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These tests were essential to validate the weapons’ effectiveness under local conditions, affirming the Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS) suitability for the specific needs of the Armenian Armed Forces and clearing the way for the additional purchase of 84 units.

Developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) in collaboration with Indian private companies, the ATAGS system represents a notable advancement in modern artillery technology. Designed to meet the current requirements of ground forces, the ATAGS has a maximum firing range of 48 km and can fire up to three rounds within 15 seconds. The system’s capability to operate at high altitudes makes it particularly well-suited to Armenia's terrain.

Additionally, it is customizable in multiple languages, a feature modified to Armenian upon request by the Armenian military. Specific adjustments have also been made to meet Armenia’s operational requirements, thus enhancing the system’s effectiveness in regional defense.

This acquisition comes as Armenia continues to face security challenges, particularly with ongoing tensions with Azerbaijan over the Nagorno-Karabakh region. The ATAGS will add significant firepower to Armenia’s artillery arsenal, boosting its defensive capabilities. This upgrade is crucial for securing borders and maintaining stability within the territory. Alongside the ATAGS systems, Armenia has recently signed additional agreements with Indian firms for other equipment, including MArG 155 wheeled self-propelled howitzers and the Akash air defense system, further strengthening its military cooperation with India. Armenia has also recently expressed interest in procuring K2 tanks from South Korea.

This new transaction highlights India’s growing role as a key defense supplier on the global stage. Armenia's acquisition of the ATAGS could set an example for other countries considering Indian military equipment. India is positioning itself as an alternative arms provider to major exporters, offering equipment that, while potentially less advanced technologically, can nonetheless prove effective in combat.

Furthermore, this defense partnership between India and Armenia reflects an increasingly strong bilateral cooperation, marking a significant step in the strategic relationship between the two nations.

Armenia Orders 84 Additional 155mm ATAGS Artillery Systems to Counter Pressure from Azerbaijan

Armenia Orders 84 Additional 155mm ATAGS Artillery Systems to Counter Pressure from Azerbaijan

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[Krishna with Flute]

This 155 mm Artillery gun a world record of firing shell (A particular type) to a distance over 48 KM. I listened to an Indian defense personal saying that its energy release at impact point is much higher than the energy released by similar rounds across the world. This is a highly potent gun tested very rigorously across all the terrains and whether. India is developing a ramjet artillery shell with double the range. India should offer this shell as well to Armenia along with guided Pinaka for precession strike.

 

[Vsdoc]

This is a TATA made weapons system.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

What does it answer? Armenians do not consider themselves Bharatis. Why would they? When even neighboring Pakistanis don't consider themselves Bharatis, why would faraway Armenians?

Read the article posted.

 

[Vsdoc]

Kalyani Forge in Poona too are making great strides.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Kalani Group's Garuda 115 MM gun is very noticeable. Indian field gun of 115 MM weighs 4100 kg. Its range is 16 KM. Garuda weighs just 900 kg and it can fire 115 MM round at a distance of 17 KM. Its Small truck mounted version weighs just below 5000 KG. It has a great mobility in Mountain. It is a star performer of High Altitude.