[🇮🇷] Iran's "Operation Truthful Promise - وعده صادق" on Israel : Live Coverage

[Lulldapull]

Ok but how good did Bayraktar fare against Russians in Ukraine? Their S- series missiles only shot down a handful of them. Even before the Ukraine war, I read rumors the Russians had an interest in buying Bayraktar.

Now it's a different scenario with better drone jamming countermeasures in place. But prior to that the Russians suffered heavy losses because of this killer drone, did it not?

And how reliable was the Iranian Shaheed & Muhajir drones in Ukraine, bypassing Ukrainian defenses and causing devastation there before they were being jammed.

I'd argue these drones are much more useful against military battalions than a few guerrilla's although it works against them too.

The lids been blown open yaar….russian Irani turani send dozens of these shahid/ lancet/ meraj kamikaze drones flying in from multiple directions heading straight for their intended targets…they appear on Ukrainian/ Sawdi/ Israeli radar screens and these chutiye shiit their pants in panic….. then dozens of cruise missiles like Hoveza/ Kh-55/ Kh101 and even Kh-22 from older stocks scream on in at 500mph…..heading toward different targets. Then these Russian and Irani launch their wild aces like iskundurr or Fateh or Emad or Shahabs on the real targets totally somewhere else…..……araam say bhund lugga detay hain and intended targets get totally destroyed. Bewquff Sawdi/ Israeli/ Ukrainian keep thinking place X is being targeted, but generally its place Y, 1000 miles away…..…Dis da real game of deception now. And let me tell you, Ef-sola or Ef-thurrtty Fav becoming junkyard scrap with each passing day. Ye haqeeqat hae ab. Warfare has radically changed.

 

[ThunderCat]

The lids been blown open yaar….russian Irani turani send dozens of these shahid/ lancet/ meraj kamikaze drones flying in from multiple directions heading straight for their intended targets…they appear on Ukrainian/ Sawdi/ Israeli radar screens and these chutiye shiit their pants in panic….. then dozens of cruise missiles like Hoveza/ Kh-55/ Kh101 and even Kh-22 from older stocks scream on in at 500mph…..heading toward different targets. Then these Russian and Irani launch their wild aces like iskundurr or Fateh or Emad or Shahabs on the real targets totally somewhere else…..……araam say bhund lugga detay hain and intended targets get totally destroyed. Bewquff Sawdi/ Israeli/ Ukrainian keep thinking place X is being targeted, but generally its place Y, 1000 miles away…..…Dis da real game of deception now. And let me tell you, Ef-sola or Ef-thurrtty Fav becoming junkyard scrap with each passing day. Ye haqeeqat hae ab. Warfare has radically changed.

Kamakazi drones don't seem to be effective for longer targets like Iran to Israel, but for shorter targets like the Russian Federation to Ukraine. Shorter targets also means flying lower altitude to evade radar.

It's worked in the past.

 

[Lulldapull]

Kamakazi drones don't seem to be effective for longer targets like Iran to Israel, but for shorter targets like the Russian Federation to Ukraine. Shorter targets also means flying lower altitude to evade radar.

It's worked in the past.

The kamikaze drones work great if Iran doesn’t announce dat they are coming at this exact time and from dat direction. Shahid-136 body is fiber glass so basically radio transparent. This attack on Israel was a huge exercise in deception and it worked beautifully. Shahid drones drew away all the hundreds of IDF missiles when the Israelis panicked and the cruise missiles drew other defenses, and the ballistic missiles slipped in right thru and destroyed their high value targets. I believe irani’s pulled da same feat when they demolished the Abqaiq/ Khurais oilfield complex which was very heavily defended by Pac2/3’s THAAD, Cayote and off shore Aegis systems. Iran launched dozens of drones, cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles from different locations in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. It is also the tactics these IRGC use combining all these different weapons and they end up overwhelming/ exhausting/ saturating the defenses. I believe if Iran launches a full on attack with a couple thousand drones/cruise/ ballistic missiles And instructs it’s hundreds of thousands of toady to do it in concert, Isra-heel will totally collapse.

 

[ThunderCat]

The kamikaze drones work great if Iran doesn’t announce dat they are coming at this exact time and from dat direction. Shahid-136 body is fiber glass so basically radio transparent. This attack on Israel was a huge exercise in deception and it worked beautifully. Shahid drones drew away all the hundreds of IDF missiles when the Israelis panicked and the cruise missiles drew other defenses, and the ballistic missiles slipped in right thru and destroyed their high value targets. I believe irani’s pulled da same feat when they demolished the Abqaiq/ Khurais oilfield complex which was very heavily defended by Pac2/3’s THAAD, Cayote and off shore Aegis systems. Iran launched dozens of drones, cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles from different locations in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. It is also the tactics these IRGC use combining all these different weapons and they end up overwhelming/ exhausting/ saturating the defenses. I believe if Iran launches a full on attack with a couple thousand drones/cruise/ ballistic missiles And instructs it’s hundreds of thousands of toady to do it in concert, Isra-heel will totally collapse.

Israel has sufficient ballistic missiles and chemical weapons to smash Iran's infrastructure to the ground. Not to mention state-of-the-art drones and planes. Iran has not gotten a proper state of Israeli firepower.

A country that has attacked Pakistan several times does not have my favor, the latest being in January. The Ayatollah regime must fall.

 

[4MikeEcho]

The kamikaze drones work great if Iran doesn’t announce dat they are coming at this exact time and from dat direction. Shahid-136 body is fiber glass so basically radio transparent. This attack on Israel was a huge exercise in deception and it worked beautifully. Shahid drones drew away all the hundreds of IDF missiles when the Israelis panicked and the cruise missiles drew other defenses, and the ballistic missiles slipped in right thru and destroyed their high value targets. I believe irani’s pulled da same feat when they demolished the Abqaiq/ Khurais oilfield complex which was very heavily defended by Pac2/3’s THAAD, Cayote and off shore Aegis systems. Iran launched dozens of drones, cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles from different locations in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. It is also the tactics these IRGC use combining all these different weapons and they end up overwhelming/ exhausting/ saturating the defenses. I believe if Iran launches a full on attack with a couple thousand drones/cruise/ ballistic missiles And instructs it’s hundreds of thousands of toady to do it in concert, Isra-heel will totally collapse.

you more bold about Iran's capabilities than even Iranians themselves. Its easy for us to be here on keyboard and have a glorified view of Iranian capability knowing that we are not going to be in the firing line of any retaliation or economic embargo.

Most of the drones were shotdown before they entered Israeli airspace and vast majority by ariborne platforms.

While Iran did announce and signal days ahead to make sure commercial traffic over Iraq or Iran was clear (they shot down one of their own airliners a few years ago), even without that, there was enough signal intelligence and satellite borne sensors to know about the massive influx. In fact by knowing the inbound motorcycle drones, Israelis knew exactly when the ballistic missiles were going to strike.

We hear the number 1-2% of ballistic missiles and Iranians have not said anything to enhance that number.

So my money is on the fact that Iranians have better ballistic weapons that Israelis know about but did not use. Otherwise this exercise was shear stupidity. Iran would have been better off blowing up an Israeli embassy in Sao Paolo

 

[4MikeEcho]

Interesting analysis of Iran's defensive weapons.

I think Iran's best defenses are: 1. Its a big country 2. Its assets are dispersed 3. Non existent air force so nothing important to destroy 4. Its distance from Israel through hostile territory 5. Most importantly people are tough . The prior generation saw 8 years of Scud wars. 6. Ability to retaliate

Any analysis on this sort of equipment is militarily insignificant. This a war of sensor/countermeasure/faster OODA loop that favors training and faster signal processing/micro chips.

In this regard, NATO has excelled at again and again. In Iraq, twice. In Serbia/Kosovo, and Israel repeatedly humiliates Syria by flying over it as it wishes.

These defensive weapons are show pieces. They will get neutralized by jamming.

How well could Iran defend itself against a potential Israeli attack?

Iran operates a wide variety of missile defence batteries at different ranges that aim to defend against aerial strikes.

www.aljazeera.com

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[H1]How well could Iran defend itself against a potential Israeli attack?[/H1]
Iran operates a wide variety of missile defence batteries at different ranges that aim to defend against aerial strikes.

Iran's Defence Minister Brigadier General Mohammad-Reza Ashtiani walks near an Iranian missile during an unveiling ceremony in Tehran, Iran, in this picture obtained on February 17, 2024 [Handout: Ministry of Defence and Armed Forces Logistics via Reuters]
By Maziar Motamedi
Published On 17 Apr 202417 Apr 2024


Tehran, Iran – Israel has pledged to "exact a price" from Iran in response to missile and drone attacks launched by Tehran in retaliation to the deadly bombing of its consulate in Syria at the beginning of this month.


Israel's war cabinet has met several times to debate a course of action to complement a diplomatic push against Iran since Saturday's unprecedented direct attacks on Israel, with Israeli army chief of staff Herzi Halevi saying a military response is certain.

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Iranian President Raisi threatened a "massive and harsh response" on Wednesday if Israel decides to launch a direct military assault on Iranian soil. So how effectively can Iran defend itself if such an attack occurs?


[H2]Relying on local defensive arms[/H2]

For decades, Iran has increasingly insisted on relying on its local capabilities when it comes to its economy, but a similar push can also be seen in its military sector.


Much of that sentiment is rooted in Iran's eight years of war with neighbouring Iraq, which invaded Iran in 1980 under former ruler Saddam Hussein. Baghdad was militarily backed by a multitude of foreign powers, including the United States.


Hampered by decades of sanctions and embargos, Iran's air superiority is still heavily challenged, with some of its fighter jets and equipment, including US-made F-4 and F-5 fighter jets, dating back to before the country's 1979 revolution – which overthrew the West-backed monarchy of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.


Iran now mostly operates Russian Sukhoi and MiG fighter jets that date back to the Soviet era. The Iranian air force has been building its own jets too, like the Saeqeh and Kowsar which are based on US designs, but they are not believed to be a match for some of the top fighter jets like the F-35s that Israel employs in large numbers.


A delivery of two dozen Russian-made Su-35 fighter jets, negotiations for which have been ongoing for some time, could significantly revitalise the Iranian air force, but it would not eliminate the need for robust air defence batteries.


[H2]Long-range missile batteries[/H2]

Iran has tried to compensate for its ageing domestic fighter jets with ambitious missile programmes. It has particularly focused on improving its air defence systems – in addition to burying some of its airbases, missile depots and nuclear facilities deep in the mountains to protect them against bunker buster munitions given to Israel by the US. Israel has extensively used the US-supplied bunker buster bombs during its six months of war on Gaza.


The longest-range missile defence system operated by Iran is the locally-developed Bavar-373, which entered service in 2019 after a decade of development and testing, and has been significantly improved since.

 

[Lulldapull]

Israel has sufficient ballistic missiles and chemical weapons to smash Iran's infrastructure to the ground. Not to mention state-of-the-art drones and planes. Iran has not gotten a proper state of Israeli firepower.

A country that has attacked Pakistan several times does not have my favor, the latest being in January. The Ayatollah regime must fall.

Bhai that IDF Air/ Drone power hasn't been able to do much over the last few decades. Recently USN/ RAF airstrikes have done nothing against the Iran backed Houthi's. Sawdi Judea faced defeat and bankruptcy too in Yemen against Iran backed Houthi's no? In Afghanistan 300k coalition/ ISAF/ NATO couldn't defeat the talibunnies. In the end only 20k walked into Kabul without firing a single shot, just like the NVA rolling into Saigon in 1975. Hezb has killed/ injured more than 500 IDF troops in the last 6 months. Iran's used Hamas k jhaggay to kill/ injure another 2000+ Israeli's no? Nuke deterrents have lost their deterrent. Israel is now wide open for an Iranian intervention and eventual dismantling. Iran's opened da gates to the global jihadists to go n fight the IDF. 8 million Israeli's can't fight 200 million incensed Shia, pretty obvious. Iran's already intimidated Israel long ago. As far as we are concerned? we ain't got no involvement in the ME conflict.

 

[ThunderCat]

Bhai that IDF Air/ Drone power hasn't been able to do much over the last few decades. Recently USN/ RAF airstrikes have done nothing against the Iran backed Houthi's. Sawdi Judea faced defeat and bankruptcy too in Yemen against Iran backed Houthi's no? In Afghanistan 300k coalition/ ISAF/ NATO couldn't defeat the talibunnies. In the end only 20k walked into Kabul without firing a single shot, just like the NVA rolling into Saigon in 1975. Hezb has killed/ injured more than 500 IDF troops in the last 6 months. Iran's used Hamas k jhaggay to kill/ injure another 2000+ Israeli's no? Nuke deterrents have lost their deterrent. Israel is now wide open for an Iranian intervention and eventual dismantling. Iran's opened da gates to the global jihadists to go n fight the IDF. 8 million Israeli's can't fight 200 million incensed Shia, pretty obvious. Iran's already intimidated Israel long ago. As far as we are concerned? we ain't got no involvement in the ME conflict.

We can easily get dragged into it. They already recruit our mercenaries. Their governments have a nasty influence over our country & people.