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Representative Hypersonic missile image ( Source Oscar Sosa US NAVY AFP)

Representative Hypersonic missile image ( Source Oscar Sosa US NAVY AFP)© Abhijeet Sen
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) successfully conducted a flight trial of its long-range hypersonic missile on November 16, 2024, from Dr APJ Abdul Kalam Island, off-the-coast of Odisha. This hypersonic missile is designed to carry various payloads for ranges greater than 1500km for all the Services of the Indian Armed Forces.


Hypersonic missiles serve two key roles: they act both as our shield and sword. They can either devastate enemy territories or nullify any incoming dangers. Consider this - if a missile ever scares the skies of India, they might retalitate by firing a supersonic missile to intercept the airborne menace. Likewise, once India takes charge and launches a ballistic missile, like the ATCM the United States is offering to Ukraine, it emphasizes the strategic superiority of these missiles in pinpointing and targeting enemy missiles within their landscape. Most importantly, the advantage of hypersonic is that even if the enemy wants to track your missile with its radar, it is very difficult.

The missile was tracked by various range systems, deployed in multiple domains. The flight data obtained from down-range ship stations confirmed the successful terminal manoeuvres and impact with a high degree of accuracy. This missile has been indigenously developed by the laboratories of Dr APJ Abdul Kalam Missile Complex, Hyderabad along with various other DRDO laboratories and Industry Partners.


The flight trial was carried out in the presence of senior scientists of DRDO and the Armed Forces.

Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh congratulated DRDO, the Armed Forces and the Industry for the successful flight trial of the country's first long-range hypersonic mission, and termed it a historic achievement.

In a post on X, the Defence Minister described the event as a historic moment, emphasizing that this major achievement has placed India among a handful of nations with the capability to develop such advanced and critical military technologies.

"India has achieved a major milestone by successfully conducting a flight trial of a long-range hypersonic missile from Dr APJ Abdul Kalam Island, off-the-coast of Odisha. This is a historic moment and this significant achievement has put our country in the group of select nations having capabilities of such critical and advanced military technologies. I congratulate Team DRDO India, our Armed Forces and the Industry for stupendous achievement," Rajnath Singh posted on X.

Secretary, Department of Defence R&D and Chairman DRDO also congratulated team DRDO for their active contribution to this successful mission.
 

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We can tap the iranis here to give us their hypersonic missiles and their drones and cruise missiles because the Chinese and Turkish missiles and drones ain’t cutting the mustard.

We’ve bought a few Chinese ballistic missiles and a few Turkish and Chinese drones over the last decade or so but are not using them against afghani terrorists.

In order to use drones we need ISR satellites but due to Suparco being defunct don’t possess ISR satellites.

There are many issues and we’re living in the last century with obsolete weapons which will not work in today’s modern world.
 
I seriously feel the time has long gone when we need to look at our military developments through the prism of Pakistan.

Pakistan and Bangladesh are essentially going to wallow in religious radicalism and violence and poverty and sectarianism and ethnic bloodletting for the foreseeable future.

There is nothing to be gained for India from defeating whatever remaining vestiges of centralized authority and C&C there are in these regions and populations.

Doing so will 1) cause these strife ridden violent populations to rally to the flag against what they now see as an outside infidel invader, and 2) cause these various Jihadist groups to start attacking and infiltrating our borders and spreading their poison to our vulnerable aggrieved Muslim youth.

Best to simply look at these two nation states as open festering wounds from 1947, that we can now only attempt to cauterize so that we do not bleed out, nor does the infection seep back in.
 
I seriously feel the time has long gone when we need to look at our military developments through the prism of Pakistan.

Pakistan and Bangladesh are essentially going to wallow in religious radicalism and violence and poverty and sectarianism and ethnic bloodletting for the foreseeable future.

There is nothing to be gained for India from defeating whatever remaining vestiges of centralized authority and C&C there are in these regions and populations.

Doing so will 1) cause these strife ridden violent populations to rally to the flag against what they now see as an outside infidel invader, and 2) cause these various Jihadist groups to start attacking and infiltrating our borders and spreading their poison to our vulnerable aggrieved Muslim youth.

Best to simply look at these two nation states as open festering wounds from 1947, that we can now only attempt to cauterize so that we do not bleed out, nor does the infection seep back in.

It is not about how India sees it but it is about how Pakistan views it and what they can do in reaction.
 
I seriously feel the time has long gone when we need to look at our military developments through the prism of Pakistan.

Pakistan and Bangladesh are essentially going to wallow in religious radicalism and violence and poverty and sectarianism and ethnic bloodletting for the foreseeable future.

There is nothing to be gained for India from defeating whatever remaining vestiges of centralized authority and C&C there are in these regions and populations.

Doing so will 1) cause these strife ridden violent populations to rally to the flag against what they now see as an outside infidel invader, and 2) cause these various Jihadist groups to start attacking and infiltrating our borders and spreading their poison to our vulnerable aggrieved Muslim youth.

Best to simply look at these two nation states as open festering wounds from 1947, that we can now only attempt to cauterize so that we do not bleed out, nor does the infection seep back in.
We need Irani help big time in stabilizing our country before the tribal savages of Afghanistan destroy what little is left.

If Iran does not intervene and crush these wild savages and helps us on our feet, we’re looking at Balkanization down the road.

I mentioned elsewhere that more than 60 Pakistani soldiers have been killed by afghani/ balochi terrorists in just the last 10 days and the pace of this insurgency is rapidly increasing.

China has totally fukked off due to CPECs failure and the US has stopped caring. Neither of the two are willing to help us sort out our dramay.

We need the iranis to take charge here and kill these tribals to our west ASAP or else the whole thing is headed south.
 
We can tap the iranis here to give us their hypersonic missiles and their drones and cruise missiles because the Chinese and Turkish missiles and drones ain’t cutting the mustard.

We’ve bought a few Chinese ballistic missiles and a few Turkish and Chinese drones over the last decade or so but are not using them against afghani terrorists.

In order to use drones we need ISR satellites but due to Suparco being defunct don’t possess ISR satellites.

There are many issues and we’re living in the last century with obsolete weapons which will not work in today’s modern world.

Which Hypersonic Missile does Iran have? All of their 300 missile except 2 or 3 were shot down by Israel.
 
We need Irani help big time in stabilizing our country before the tribal savages of Afghanistan destroy what little is left.

If Iran does not intervene and crush these wild savages and helps us on our feet, we’re looking at Balkanization down the road.

I mentioned elsewhere that more than 60 Pakistani soldiers have been killed by afghani/ balochi terrorists in just the last 10 days and the pace of this insurgency is rapidly increasing.

China has totally fukked off due to CPECs failure and the US has stopped caring. Neither of the two are willing to help us sort out our dramay.

We need the iranis to take charge here and kill these tribals to our west ASAP or else the whole thing is headed south.

Bhai, your lot are doodh ke dhulle? To be calling Afghans savages and loading all blame on them?

It is Afghans attacking Kashmir?

Afghans attacked Bombay?

Afghans attacked Indian Parliament?

Afghans did Pulwama?

Come on.
 
Bhai, your lot are doodh ke dhulle? To be calling Afghans savages and loading all blame on them?

It is Afghans attacking Kashmir?

Afghans attacked Bombay?

Afghans attacked Indian Parliament?

Afghans did Pulwama?

Come on.
I believe Pakistan was created to keep a good distance between India and Afghanistan. Otherwise whats happening in Pakistan today would also be happening in India.
 
If you guys had stayed to our side of the Indus, as it was for thousands of years, and not mess with the Iranic side in the other bank, I believe all would have been well.

Look at Bangladesh. Their only problem areas are Indic or Burmese tribes. Otherwise on the whole they are a homogeneous lot.

Pakistan is a classic case of overreach.
 
If you guys had stayed to our side of the Indus, as it was for thousands if years, and not mess with the Iranic side in the other bank, I believe all would have been well.

Look at Bangladesh. Their only problem areas are Indic or Burmese tribes. Otherwise on the whole they are a homogeneous lot.

What are you implying with this post?

Also, India is far from homogeneous, it's perhaps the most diverse country in terms of language and ethnic groups.
 
If you guys had stayed to our side of the Indus, as it was for thousands of years, and not mess with the Iranic side in the other bank, I believe all would have been well.

Look at Bangladesh. Their only problem areas are Indic or Burmese tribes. Otherwise on the whole they are a homogeneous lot.

Pakistan is a classic case of overreach.
Nehru and Patel knew very well to keep a good distance between India and Afghanistan!

Last ten days we lost 60 soldiers to these afghani backed terrorists and today bhai 38 innocents were gunned down in Kurram agency.

Bad news just coming out right now.

We got a serious problem Doc…..we need to get Iran involved in killing these guys vurna hum khud nahi bachain gay!

Iran kills without mercy…….and we've seen it in the SyRaaq for so long. Laakhon ko maar daala hae Iran nay udher, for some reason we can’t fukking kill.
 
Which Hypersonic Missile does Iran have? All of their 300 missile except 2 or 3 were shot down by Israel.
Ye dekh bhai. Israel is a joke in front of Iran. More importantly this very Hollywood type pounding that Iran delivered has shut up a lot of people around the world and has definitely exposed the likes of the two clowns (Russia and China) neither of which got this capability to take on a country fully backed by the best gadgets money can buy.

Irans doing this to Israel regularly now like business as usual, and nobody got the guts to take on Iran because they know now that Irans crossed a threshold of technology that nobody really has nor proven that they have.

I personally believe that the earlier TP-1 attack from April was far more successful because it’s very difficult to shoot down drones at night flying in low nape of the earth flight profile from multiple directions homing in on you so low that the radars don’t even pick them up. Irans mastered the drone doctrine and perfected it in Ukraine against the best air defenses the west has provided to Ukraine.

@Vsdoc……ye Irani aik he jhattkay main 200/ 300 mayzile/ drone chala detay hain which is like the entire inventories of many countries combined!

 
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We know Iran have lots of oil but bas kar yaar !

patroal khatam hi ni hunda ?


Bhai you didn’t like da vid no?

Krishna was sayin all got intercepted except 2 or 3? Like CNN and BBC no?

You don’t got this capability to attack israheel no?

Actually aap key auqaat he nahi hae to do what Irans been doing. Yous just totally dependent upon da west for survival. Yous just a step above Pakistan or Sawdi or Al-Turkiya.
 
Bhai you didn’t like da vid no?

Krishna was sayin all got intercepted except 2 or 3? Like CNN and BBC no?

You don’t got this capability to attack israheel no?

Actually aap key auqaat he nahi hae to do what Irans been doing. Yous just totally dependent upon da west for survival. Yous just a step above Pakistan or Sawdi or Al-Turkiya.
chalo agreed, humari aukaat nahi hai bhai.. khush ?

ab apna 'Iran Iran!!' band karega pleaj ? :LOL:

you become like that mooji iqbal guy and his China obsession on the other forum, I opened a thread to troll him.. check karo.. member's club me hai, you should have posting privileges there.
 
chalo agreed, humari aukaat nahi hai bhai.. khush ?

ab apna 'Iran Iran!!' band karega pleaj ? :LOL:

you become like that mooji iqbal guy and his China obsession on the other forum, I opened a thread to troll him.. check karo.. member's club me hai, you should have posting privileges there.
He used to be here but was driven out for his islamist views. He's alright the poor guy cuz he grew up in Sawdi Judea and got brainwashed pretty bad.

Now he's figuring out that Sawdi Judea is just a bhangi outfit.......lol
 
:ROFLMAO: you srs ?

He's in canuckistan now, or so say his flags.

usko China ka fitoor savaar hai

and aapko, Iran ka :P
Somebody who grew up in the GCC in that extremely toxic environment can't possibly live in the West!

Boht mushkil hae.

The other issue is that we've been told to fukk China off from Pakistan by the US. We had to comply bhai. He knows all this, but is in denial or just says china china china to make conversation.

Ghareebon key bhee majboorian hoti hain bhai.
 
Ye dekh bhai. Israel is a joke in front of Iran. More importantly this very Hollywood type pounding that Iran delivered has shut up a lot of people around the world and has definitely exposed the likes of the two clowns (Russia and China) neither of which got this capability to take on a country fully backed by the best gadgets money can buy.

Irans doing this to Israel regularly now like business as usual, and nobody got the guts to take on Iran because they know now that Irans crossed a threshold of technology that nobody really has nor proven that they have.

I personally believe that the earlier TP-1 attack from April was far more successful because it’s very difficult to shoot down drones at night flying in low nape of the earth flight profile from multiple directions homing in on you so low that the radars don’t even pick them up. Irans mastered the drone doctrine and perfected it in Ukraine against the best air defenses the west has provided to Ukraine.

@Vsdoc……ye Irani aik he jhattkay main 200/ 300 mayzile/ drone chala detay hain which is like the entire inventories of many countries combined!



Israel kills people in high security zone of Iran. Israel kills their scientist, their guest, their army commander etc. Israeli F 35 roams round freely in Iranian space and bomb their installations traveling from 1100 k.m. away traveling in above the skies of Arab nations yet Iran could not do anything. So called missile and drone strike of and missile strike of Iran failed to kill even a single person. This is the reality. You can believe whatever you want. That does not make any difference.
 
Israel kills people in high security zone of Iran. Israel kills their scientist, their guest, their army commander etc. Israeli F 35 roams round freely in Iranian space and bomb their installations traveling from 1100 k.m. away traveling in above the skies of Arab nations yet Iran could not do anything. So called missile and drone strike of and missile strike of Iran failed to kill even a single person. This is the reality. You can believe whatever you want. That does not make any difference.
F-thurrtty Fav roaming over Tehran? Acchha? That’s a new one no? How about when Iran killed 1500 Ijh-raheeli on Oct 7th? Via proxy? That don’t count? Or how bout the 5000 dead IDF soldiers and three times that amputees/ seriously injured? That don’t count?

Really?

And what if Iran put Haandiya sahb to death for ‘nafarmani’……?

Then what? CNN/BBC/Fox we’re all saying all is good in Afghanistan, and then we know what happened no?
 
There is nothing wrong in reading the news from other reliable sources. Israel hit Iran's nuke facility. Read bellow.


Much harder' for Iran to develop nukes after Parchin strike

Israel hit nuke weapons research site in Iran last month, set back program — report​

Strike destroyed equipment used to design explosives for bomb; will have to be replaced if regime seeks to press ahead. IAEA chief tours nuclear sites. Iran ‘won’t try to kill Trump’​


This satellite photo from Planet Labs PBC shows damaged buildings at Iran's Parchin military base outside of Tehran, Iran, October 27, 2024. The damaged structures are in the bottom right corner and bottom center of the image. (Planet Labs PBC via AP)
This satellite photo from Planet Labs PBC shows damaged buildings at Iran's Parchin military base outside of Tehran, Iran, October 27, 2024. The damaged structures are in the bottom right corner and bottom center of the image. (Planet Labs PBC via AP)
Israel’s airstrikes in Iran last month destroyed an active nuclear weapons research facility in Parchin, the Axios news site reported Friday, citing three US officials, one current Israeli official and one former Israeli official.

The report came as the UN nuclear watchdog prepares to vote on censuring Iran for refusing to cooperate with its inspectors, and amid a report that the Islamic Republic told the Biden administration last month it would not seek to assassinate US president-elect Donald Trump.

According to Axios, an Israeli strike on Parchin — part of an hours-long operation on October 26, which came in response to an earlier Iranian attack on Israel — destroyed sophisticated equipment used to design the explosives that could surround uranium in a nuclear device, significantly damaging Iran’s efforts to resume its nuclear weapons research.

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The Israeli strike “will make it much harder for Iran to develop a nuclear explosive device if it chooses to do so,” Axios cited two Israeli officials saying.

Iran would need to “replace the equipment that was destroyed” if it wants to produce nuclear weapons, the report cited the Israeli officials saying, “and if Iran tries to procure it, they believe they will be able to track it,” Axios said.

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The “Taleghan 2” complex was already known to have been targeted in the strikes — as testified by satellite imagery — and was already recognized as having been a site of Iran’s earlier nuclear program which officially shut down in 2003.

Related, from our archive — Netanyahu: Iran brazenly lied about nuclear program, has made plans to revive it

US and Israeli intelligence reportedly began to detect new activity at the site earlier this year, including computer modeling, metallurgy and research on explosives, that would be relevant to creating a nuclear device.

“They conducted scientific activity that could lay the ground for the production of a weapon. It was a top-secret thing. A small part of the Iranian government knew about this, but most of the Iranian government didn’t,” a US official told Axios.

Knowledge of the research at Taleghan 2 reportedly prompted the US Director of National Intelligence to change its official assessment of Iran’s nuclear program in August, which had previously noted Iran was “not currently undertaking” the activities necessary to produce a testable nuclear device.

Israel is not known to have hit other nuclear sites in the October 26 airstrikes, when dozens of Israeli aircraft took out air drone and ballistic missile manufacturing and launch sites, as well as air defense batteries.

The US urged Israel to refrain from hitting nuclear sites in the attack, to avoid triggering a major escalation with Iran, though it endorsed Israel’s move in responding to Iran’s October 1 attack on Israel, when the Islamic Republic shot 181 ballistic missiles at Israel, its second such direct attack since April.

According to Axios, Israel made an exception for Taleghan 2, because the site was not part of Iran’s declared nuclear program — which the Islamic Republic denies has a military component, but acknowledges as a supposedly civilian enterprise.

Had Iran acknowledged the significance of the attack, it would have in the process admitted its own violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

 
Attached herewith is a list of Hamas and Hizbullah leaders eliminated by Israel.

Here’s a list of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders who have been killed in the ongoing war​

1. Yahya Sinwar: Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed by Israeli forces in Gaza. He was driven by his deep antipathy towards the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and deep commitment to the Islamist ideology of Hamas.

Rise and fall of Yahya Sinwar

2. Hassan Nasrallah: Lebanon’s Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, whom Israel said on September 28, 2024, it has killed, led Hezbollah through decades of conflict with Israel, overseeing its transformation into a military force with regional sway and becoming one of the most prominent Arab figures in generations — with Iranian backing.


3. Fatah Sharif: The Israeli Army said on September 30, 2024 that its forces “eliminated” Hamas’ leader Sharif in Lebanon, as it continued to target Iran-backed militant groups in the neighbouring country.

4. Ali Karaki: One of Hezbollah’s top commanders, Ali Karaki was killed in the airstrike that assassinated Nasrallah. The Israeli military said more than 20 militants of varying ranks were killed in the strike on a underground bunker.


5. Nabil Kaouk: Kaouk, who was killed in an airstrike on September 28, 2024, was the deputy head of Hezbollah’s Central Council.

6. Mohammed Srur: Srur was the head of Hezbollah’s drone unit, which was used for the first time in this current conflict with Israel. Under his leadership, Hezbollah launched exploding and reconnaissance drones deep into Israel, penetrating its defense systems, which had mostly focused on the group’s rockets and missiles.

Watch: What’s Hezbollah, and why is the militia permanently at war with Israel?
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7. Ibrahim Qubaisi: He led Hezbollah’s missile unit. The Israeli military says Qubaisi planned the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli soldiers at the northern border in 2000, whose bodies were returned in a prisoner swap with Hezbollah four years later.


8. Ibrahim Aqil: Ibrahim Aqil, the Hezbollah operations commander killed in an Israeli strike on September 20, 2024, had a $7 million bounty on his head for two 1983 Beirut truck bombings that killed more than 300 people at the American embassy and a U.S. Marines barracks.

9. Ahmed Mahmud Wahbi: Ahmed Wahbi, a top commander who oversaw the military operations of the Radwan special forces until early 2024, was killed in an Israel strike that targeted several top commanders in the Beirut suburbs on September 20, including Ibrahim Aqil.

10. Fuad Shukr: An Israeli strike on the southern suburbs of Lebanon’s capital on July 30 killed Hezbollah’s top commander Fuad Shukr. Shukr had been one of Hezbollah’s leading military figures since it was established by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards in 1982.


11. Mohammed Nasser: Mohammed Nasser was killed in an Israeli airstrike on July 3. Israel claimed responsibility, saying he headed a unit responsible for firing from southwestern Lebanon at Israel. Nasser, a senior commander in Hezbollah, was responsible for a section of Hezbollah’s operations at the frontier, according to senior security sources in Lebanon.

12. Taleb Abdallah: Senior Hezbollah field commander Abdallah was killed on June 12 in a strike claimed by Israel, which said it had hit a command and control centre in southern Lebanon. Security sources in Lebanon said he was Hezbollah’s commander for the central region of the southern border strip and was of the same rank as Nasser.

Who is Mohammed Deif, the Hamas chief
Mohammed-Deif

13. Mohammed Deif: Hamas leader Deif was killed in an air strike by Israeli military on August 1. Deif had been on Israel’s kill list at least since the early 2000s.


14. Ismail Haniyeh: Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated on July 31 during a visit to Tehran. He had been the Hamas leader since 2017. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said he was killed by a short-range projectile.

15. Saleh-Al Arouri: An Israeli drone strike on Beirut’s southern suburbs of Dahiyeh killed deputy Hamas chief Saleh al-Arouri on January 2, 2024. Arouri was also the founder of Hamas’ military wing, the Qassam Brigades.

16. Marwan Issa: Deputy Hamas military commander Marwan Issa was killed in an Israeli strike in March, the Israeli military said. He had been at the top of Israel’s most-wanted listed alongside Deif and Sinwar.

Still you can chant that Iran has kicked Israel against all realities.
 
India's Hypersonic Missiles.

1) Brahmos's speed to be increased to Mach 5
2) HSTDV- Atleast 3 successful test carried out.
3) Rudram II Air launched land attack quasi ballistic missile
4) Pralay: Quasi Ballistic hypersonic missile.
5) Shaurya: Quasi ballistic surface to surface missile with the speed of Mach 8.
6) Project Vishnu: 2 missile under development Surface to surface and air to surface.
7) K15 Sagarika: Submarine launched Ballistic missile in operation.
8) K4: Quasi ballistic hypersonic missile (operational)
9) Long range anti-ship Missile: May be the spinoff of recently tested long range hypersonic missile.
10) HSGV one which just tested.
11) Rudram III under development.

If I have missed something, you guys can add to the list.
 
There is nothing wrong in reading the news from other reliable sources. Israel hit Iran's nuke facility. Read bellow.


Much harder' for Iran to develop nukes after Parchin strike

Israel hit nuke weapons research site in Iran last month, set back program — report​

Strike destroyed equipment used to design explosives for bomb; will have to be replaced if regime seeks to press ahead. IAEA chief tours nuclear sites. Iran ‘won’t try to kill Trump’​


This satellite photo from Planet Labs PBC shows damaged buildings at Iran's Parchin military base outside of Tehran, Iran, October 27, 2024. The damaged structures are in the bottom right corner and bottom center of the image. (Planet Labs PBC via AP)'s Parchin military base outside of Tehran, Iran, October 27, 2024. The damaged structures are in the bottom right corner and bottom center of the image. (Planet Labs PBC via AP)
This satellite photo from Planet Labs PBC shows damaged buildings at Iran's Parchin military base outside of Tehran, Iran, October 27, 2024. The damaged structures are in the bottom right corner and bottom center of the image. (Planet Labs PBC via AP)
Israel’s airstrikes in Iran last month destroyed an active nuclear weapons research facility in Parchin, the Axios news site reported Friday, citing three US officials, one current Israeli official and one former Israeli official.

The report came as the UN nuclear watchdog prepares to vote on censuring Iran for refusing to cooperate with its inspectors, and amid a report that the Islamic Republic told the Biden administration last month it would not seek to assassinate US president-elect Donald Trump.

According to Axios, an Israeli strike on Parchin — part of an hours-long operation on October 26, which came in response to an earlier Iranian attack on Israel — destroyed sophisticated equipment used to design the explosives that could surround uranium in a nuclear device, significantly damaging Iran’s efforts to resume its nuclear weapons research.

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The Israeli strike “will make it much harder for Iran to develop a nuclear explosive device if it chooses to do so,” Axios cited two Israeli officials saying.

Iran would need to “replace the equipment that was destroyed” if it wants to produce nuclear weapons, the report cited the Israeli officials saying, “and if Iran tries to procure it, they believe they will be able to track it,” Axios said.

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The “Taleghan 2” complex was already known to have been targeted in the strikes — as testified by satellite imagery — and was already recognized as having been a site of Iran’s earlier nuclear program which officially shut down in 2003.

Related, from our archive — Netanyahu: Iran brazenly lied about nuclear program, has made plans to revive it

US and Israeli intelligence reportedly began to detect new activity at the site earlier this year, including computer modeling, metallurgy and research on explosives, that would be relevant to creating a nuclear device.

“They conducted scientific activity that could lay the ground for the production of a weapon. It was a top-secret thing. A small part of the Iranian government knew about this, but most of the Iranian government didn’t,” a US official told Axios.

Knowledge of the research at Taleghan 2 reportedly prompted the US Director of National Intelligence to change its official assessment of Iran’s nuclear program in August, which had previously noted Iran was “not currently undertaking” the activities necessary to produce a testable nuclear device.

Israel is not known to have hit other nuclear sites in the October 26 airstrikes, when dozens of Israeli aircraft took out air drone and ballistic missile manufacturing and launch sites, as well as air defense batteries.

The US urged Israel to refrain from hitting nuclear sites in the attack, to avoid triggering a major escalation with Iran, though it endorsed Israel’s move in responding to Iran’s October 1 attack on Israel, when the Islamic Republic shot 181 ballistic missiles at Israel, its second such direct attack since April.

According to Axios, Israel made an exception for Taleghan 2, because the site was not part of Iran’s declared nuclear program — which the Islamic Republic denies has a military component, but acknowledges as a supposedly civilian enterprise.

Had Iran acknowledged the significance of the attack, it would have in the process admitted its own violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

Times of Israel? Are you serious?
 
Attached herewith is a list of Hamas and Hizbullah leaders eliminated by Israel.

Here’s a list of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders who have been killed in the ongoing war​

1. Yahya Sinwar: Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed by Israeli forces in Gaza. He was driven by his deep antipathy towards the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and deep commitment to the Islamist ideology of Hamas.

Rise and fall of Yahya Sinwar

2. Hassan Nasrallah: Lebanon’s Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, whom Israel said on September 28, 2024, it has killed, led Hezbollah through decades of conflict with Israel, overseeing its transformation into a military force with regional sway and becoming one of the most prominent Arab figures in generations — with Iranian backing.


3. Fatah Sharif: The Israeli Army said on September 30, 2024 that its forces “eliminated” Hamas’ leader Sharif in Lebanon, as it continued to target Iran-backed militant groups in the neighbouring country.

4. Ali Karaki: One of Hezbollah’s top commanders, Ali Karaki was killed in the airstrike that assassinated Nasrallah. The Israeli military said more than 20 militants of varying ranks were killed in the strike on a underground bunker.


5. Nabil Kaouk: Kaouk, who was killed in an airstrike on September 28, 2024, was the deputy head of Hezbollah’s Central Council.

6. Mohammed Srur: Srur was the head of Hezbollah’s drone unit, which was used for the first time in this current conflict with Israel. Under his leadership, Hezbollah launched exploding and reconnaissance drones deep into Israel, penetrating its defense systems, which had mostly focused on the group’s rockets and missiles.

Watch: What’s Hezbollah, and why is the militia permanently at war with Israel?
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7. Ibrahim Qubaisi: He led Hezbollah’s missile unit. The Israeli military says Qubaisi planned the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli soldiers at the northern border in 2000, whose bodies were returned in a prisoner swap with Hezbollah four years later.


8. Ibrahim Aqil: Ibrahim Aqil, the Hezbollah operations commander killed in an Israeli strike on September 20, 2024, had a $7 million bounty on his head for two 1983 Beirut truck bombings that killed more than 300 people at the American embassy and a U.S. Marines barracks.

9. Ahmed Mahmud Wahbi: Ahmed Wahbi, a top commander who oversaw the military operations of the Radwan special forces until early 2024, was killed in an Israel strike that targeted several top commanders in the Beirut suburbs on September 20, including Ibrahim Aqil.

10. Fuad Shukr: An Israeli strike on the southern suburbs of Lebanon’s capital on July 30 killed Hezbollah’s top commander Fuad Shukr. Shukr had been one of Hezbollah’s leading military figures since it was established by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards in 1982.


11. Mohammed Nasser: Mohammed Nasser was killed in an Israeli airstrike on July 3. Israel claimed responsibility, saying he headed a unit responsible for firing from southwestern Lebanon at Israel. Nasser, a senior commander in Hezbollah, was responsible for a section of Hezbollah’s operations at the frontier, according to senior security sources in Lebanon.

12. Taleb Abdallah: Senior Hezbollah field commander Abdallah was killed on June 12 in a strike claimed by Israel, which said it had hit a command and control centre in southern Lebanon. Security sources in Lebanon said he was Hezbollah’s commander for the central region of the southern border strip and was of the same rank as Nasser.

Who is Mohammed Deif, the Hamas chief
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13. Mohammed Deif: Hamas leader Deif was killed in an air strike by Israeli military on August 1. Deif had been on Israel’s kill list at least since the early 2000s.


14. Ismail Haniyeh: Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated on July 31 during a visit to Tehran. He had been the Hamas leader since 2017. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said he was killed by a short-range projectile.

15. Saleh-Al Arouri: An Israeli drone strike on Beirut’s southern suburbs of Dahiyeh killed deputy Hamas chief Saleh al-Arouri on January 2, 2024. Arouri was also the founder of Hamas’ military wing, the Qassam Brigades.

16. Marwan Issa: Deputy Hamas military commander Marwan Issa was killed in an Israeli strike in March, the Israeli military said. He had been at the top of Israel’s most-wanted listed alongside Deif and Sinwar.

Still you can chant that Iran has kicked Israel against all realities.
And how many IDF personnel are dead?
 
Attached herewith is a list of Hamas and Hizbullah leaders eliminated by Israel.

Here’s a list of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders who have been killed in the ongoing war​

1. Yahya Sinwar: Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed by Israeli forces in Gaza. He was driven by his deep antipathy towards the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and deep commitment to the Islamist ideology of Hamas.

Rise and fall of Yahya Sinwar

2. Hassan Nasrallah: Lebanon’s Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, whom Israel said on September 28, 2024, it has killed, led Hezbollah through decades of conflict with Israel, overseeing its transformation into a military force with regional sway and becoming one of the most prominent Arab figures in generations — with Iranian backing.


3. Fatah Sharif: The Israeli Army said on September 30, 2024 that its forces “eliminated” Hamas’ leader Sharif in Lebanon, as it continued to target Iran-backed militant groups in the neighbouring country.

4. Ali Karaki: One of Hezbollah’s top commanders, Ali Karaki was killed in the airstrike that assassinated Nasrallah. The Israeli military said more than 20 militants of varying ranks were killed in the strike on a underground bunker.


5. Nabil Kaouk: Kaouk, who was killed in an airstrike on September 28, 2024, was the deputy head of Hezbollah’s Central Council.

6. Mohammed Srur: Srur was the head of Hezbollah’s drone unit, which was used for the first time in this current conflict with Israel. Under his leadership, Hezbollah launched exploding and reconnaissance drones deep into Israel, penetrating its defense systems, which had mostly focused on the group’s rockets and missiles.

Watch: What’s Hezbollah, and why is the militia permanently at war with Israel?
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7. Ibrahim Qubaisi: He led Hezbollah’s missile unit. The Israeli military says Qubaisi planned the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli soldiers at the northern border in 2000, whose bodies were returned in a prisoner swap with Hezbollah four years later.


8. Ibrahim Aqil: Ibrahim Aqil, the Hezbollah operations commander killed in an Israeli strike on September 20, 2024, had a $7 million bounty on his head for two 1983 Beirut truck bombings that killed more than 300 people at the American embassy and a U.S. Marines barracks.

9. Ahmed Mahmud Wahbi: Ahmed Wahbi, a top commander who oversaw the military operations of the Radwan special forces until early 2024, was killed in an Israel strike that targeted several top commanders in the Beirut suburbs on September 20, including Ibrahim Aqil.

10. Fuad Shukr: An Israeli strike on the southern suburbs of Lebanon’s capital on July 30 killed Hezbollah’s top commander Fuad Shukr. Shukr had been one of Hezbollah’s leading military figures since it was established by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards in 1982.


11. Mohammed Nasser: Mohammed Nasser was killed in an Israeli airstrike on July 3. Israel claimed responsibility, saying he headed a unit responsible for firing from southwestern Lebanon at Israel. Nasser, a senior commander in Hezbollah, was responsible for a section of Hezbollah’s operations at the frontier, according to senior security sources in Lebanon.

12. Taleb Abdallah: Senior Hezbollah field commander Abdallah was killed on June 12 in a strike claimed by Israel, which said it had hit a command and control centre in southern Lebanon. Security sources in Lebanon said he was Hezbollah’s commander for the central region of the southern border strip and was of the same rank as Nasser.

Who is Mohammed Deif, the Hamas chief
Mohammed-Deif

13. Mohammed Deif: Hamas leader Deif was killed in an air strike by Israeli military on August 1. Deif had been on Israel’s kill list at least since the early 2000s.


14. Ismail Haniyeh: Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated on July 31 during a visit to Tehran. He had been the Hamas leader since 2017. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said he was killed by a short-range projectile.

15. Saleh-Al Arouri: An Israeli drone strike on Beirut’s southern suburbs of Dahiyeh killed deputy Hamas chief Saleh al-Arouri on January 2, 2024. Arouri was also the founder of Hamas’ military wing, the Qassam Brigades.

16. Marwan Issa: Deputy Hamas military commander Marwan Issa was killed in an Israeli strike in March, the Israeli military said. He had been at the top of Israel’s most-wanted listed alongside Deif and Sinwar.

Still you can chant that Iran has kicked Israel against all realities.
Irans killed 1500 Israeli civilians and another 1000 plus soldiers. Times of Israel acknowledging 804 killed a year ago:

 
Israel killed 50X more. Wipped out Hamas.
Just like the Soviet battle with the Nazi's, an inflection point would come where the Israeli's will lose the will to fight. Just like apartheid south African Pretoria regime.

Iran's a master of the siege warfare technique. Time, demographics, massive regional support all favor Iran.

You know who'd win this........
 
Just like the Soviet battle with the Nazi's, an inflection point would come where the Israeli's will lose the will to fight. Just like apartheid south African Pretoria regime.

Iran's a master of the siege warfare technique. Time, demographics, massive regional support all favor Iran.

You know who'd win this........

I think your wishful thinking takes new shapes with Hamas and Iran gets smashed. The dictator Ayatollah, whose people are not with him world will come to his side?
 
They can create nuisance but nothing more. See how Israelis Changed the geography. We changed the geography in 1971 and planning to do it again.
And Iran hasn't changed geography? They exert control over an area bigger than your India today. And its growing! Talibunny dalit too under Iranian control and soon N.East Africa.

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Just like the Soviet battle with the Nazi's, an inflection point would come where the Israeli's will lose the will to fight. Just like apartheid south African Pretoria regime.

Iran's a master of the siege warfare technique. Time, demographics, massive regional support all favor Iran.

You know who'd win this........

You changes goal post. First you praised Iran for killing 1500 Jews. When I said that Israel took revenge by killing 50 times more, you moved to Iran Missile attack. When I quoted the reference of Israel attacking Iran nukes, you again changed the goal post and citing imaginary Iran victory. This is Al Takia.
 
You changes goal post. First you praised Iran for killing 1500 Jews. When I said that Israel took revenge by killing 50 times more, you moved to Iran Missile attack. When I quoted the reference of Israel attacking Iran nukes, you again changed the goal post and citing imaginary Iran victory. This is Al Takia.
Oh bhai it’s a war of attrition no? Something you fail to realize. Israel is a small outfit. They’re losing men n material daily in Gaza and S Lebanon. Are you aware of the daily IDF casualty figures?

Should I start posting them here?
 
Oh bhai it’s a war of attrition no? Something you fail to realize. Israel is a small outfit. They’re losing men n material daily in Gaza and S Lebanon. Are you aware of the daily IDF casualty figures?

Should I start posting them here?

Material loss is replenished by Many countries mainly by UK. Loss of material is ammunition mainly and no costly asset like Plane is lost. Manpower loss is a real loss but that is loss is more than justified when it happens before causing 50 times collateral damage to enemy.
 
Material loss is replenished by Many countries mainly by UK. Loss of material is ammunition mainly and no costly asset like Plane is lost. Manpower loss is a real loss but that is loss is more than justified when it happens before causing 50 times collateral damage to enemy.
Dis happening daily bhai. Iran needs to up de tempo no? Heavier Irani rockets/ drones are being sent to both the Ukrainian front and Israeli occupied territories. Soon Iran will introduce new legions into the mix from Yemen, Parachinar/ Hangu/ Mazar-e-Sharif and the PMU's from Iraq. Millions want to go now, but Iran's being patient.

This campaign has just started. The 10 IDF getting killed daily will go upward of a 100 daily. We'll see who's left standing then when the dust settles:

 
Ye dekh bhai. Israel is a joke in front of Iran. More importantly this very Hollywood type pounding that Iran delivered has shut up a lot of people around the world and has definitely exposed the likes of the two clowns (Russia and China) neither of which got this capability to take on a country fully backed by the best gadgets money can buy.

Irans doing this to Israel regularly now like business as usual, and nobody got the guts to take on Iran because they know now that Irans crossed a threshold of technology that nobody really has nor proven that they have.

I personally believe that the earlier TP-1 attack from April was far more successful because it’s very difficult to shoot down drones at night flying in low nape of the earth flight profile from multiple directions homing in on you so low that the radars don’t even pick them up. Irans mastered the drone doctrine and perfected it in Ukraine against the best air defenses the west has provided to Ukraine.

@Vsdoc……ye Irani aik he jhattkay main 200/ 300 mayzile/ drone chala detay hain which is like the entire inventories of many countries combined!



Are yaar itana maar khane ke baad itana Jazba kahan se aata hai aap logo ko?
 
India has a long list of hypersonic Missiles (Ballistic Hypersonic missiles are not included)
1) Shaurya (operational)
2) K 15 (operational)
3) K4 (operational)
4) Brahmos 2 (In Makinkg)
5) HSTDV (Tested)
6) Project to make Brahmos a Mach 5 missile (In making)
7) Project VIshnu (2 Hypersonic missiles are in making)
8) Rudram II (Tested )
9) Rudram III (In making)
10) HSGV (Recently tested)
11) Long Range antiship Cruise Missile (Derivative of HSGV in development)

If some missiles are left out, kindly add to the list.

What Pakistan has to counter that?
 
Why are you so sure about the Iranian weapons? Because of the experience of conflict happened with Iranians on your western border.
Oh if u check da news bhai Israel’s asking for a ceasefire now in Lebanon. Heavier Irani rockets pounding Tel Aviv Haifa Ashdod and IDF military bases daily resulting in Israeli casualties and infrastructure destruction.

It’s a soweet moment no?

Iron dome, arrow David sling pac-2’s and THAAD are all failures.

Iran should finish the job it started on Oct 7th last year and make Israel submit to its demands. Or else no need to stop until an Israeli capitulation
 

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