Americas' Tesla recalls almost all US vehicles in largest-ever such move, Concerns over 2.2 million vehicles due to warning lights problems which increase the

[Hamartia Antidote]

These little EV's start having battery issue few years down da road. Maintenance gets expensive and the charging mileage declines exponentially with age. Replacing da battery is totally not economically feasible.

Maybe they are using lead-acid batteries to keep costs down. Those things aren't great for high usage.

 

[Lulldapull]

Maybe they are using lead-acid batteries to keep costs down.

My brother in da UK bought a used (two years old) Nissan Leaf a few years ago and it takes twice as long to charge and the battery depletes much faster now. He used to be able to get about 210 miles per charge on it, but now its more like 170 within the last 2 years or so, and declinin. Total ownership is just under 4 years. Gradual battery depletion/ performance is the culprit more than anything else. Honda N-box, Suzuki mini me Hustlers and the Daihastsu Taft are all the craze here in Japan. All under 1000cc and cheap and petrol is cheap here in Japan. Anything under 1000cc engine gets a yellow number plate and you get a discount on your annual emissions/ rego etc. Must be a Japanese gubment/ promotion policy.

 

[Old School]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

 

[Lulldapull]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

After 4-5 years owning a petrol/ diesel car here in Japan the emissions testing/ compliance here gets prohibitive because of catalytic converter declining in NOX performance. Hundreds of thousands of used Japanese vehicles then must be exchanged at the dealerships for newer vehicles and all these Japanese vehicles get reconditioned and sold all over the world in South Asia and Africa. You can keep your older vehicle but then you get railroaded with an emissions tax which increases with the vehicles age. What a badmash monopoly no?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

My brother in da UK bought a used (two years old) Nissan Leaf a few years ago and it takes twice as long to charge and the battery depletes much faster now. He used to be able to get about 210 miles per charge on it, but now its more like 170 within the last 2 years or so, and declinin. Total ownership is just under 4 years. Gradual battery depletion/ performance is the culprit more than anything else. Honda N-box, Suzuki mini me Hustlers and the Daihastsu Taft are all the craze here in Japan. All under 1000cc and cheap and petrol is cheap here in Japan. Anything under 1000cc engine gets a yellow number plate and you get a discount on your annual emissions/ rego etc. Must be a Japanese gubment/ promotion policy.

Well the Tesla Model 3 started being mass produced in 2017 and while there are stories about Uber drivers seeing huge range decreases (likely from close to 100% high voltage supercharger usage) in general their isn't much chatter from normal consumers (who primarily use low voltage home charging) seeing a drastic decrease.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

He wanted to bring back two of the $150,000 BYD YangWang U8s...that's what expensive toys are.

BYD's YangWang U8 received 4,000 orders in China

Pre-sales started in September. BYD YangWang U8 costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD).

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BYD’s YangWang U8 is a plug-in hybrid SUV that costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD) in China.

 

[Old School]

He wanted to bring back two of the $150,000 BYD YangWang U8s...that's what expensive toys are.

BYD's YangWang U8 received 4,000 orders in China

Pre-sales started in September. BYD YangWang U8 costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD).

carnewschina.com

America is not yet ready to go full EV. The necessary infrastructure is not yet there. We have to wait. Of course, EVs are the future, but without Tesla.

 

[Bilal9]

I personally regard these EVS as really, really nice golf carts.

You got to admit though - the Tesla Y has excellent seats, the softest leather I have seen, better than Lexus anyday.

I am pulling the trigger on one soon - hopefully.