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[Sharma Ji]

Pakistani Shia Khomeinist militant group

 

[Lulldapull]

this crew, with the Hezb kinda flag

Liwa Zainebiyoun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Its one of the foreign legions of Iran. There are 50 others bhai.....

 

[Sharma Ji]

Its one of the foreign legions of Iran. There are 50 others bhai.....

Ya, but skorti issue hai na for Pak ? They went to Iraq/Syria in big numbers.. cannon fodder types.

Hussaini Brahmins are also a thing, fought in the original battle of Karbala or something.

A quick Gooble sez:

Hussaini Brahmins are a unique Hindu community primarily found in the Punjab region, with historical ties to the Battle of Karbala. They are a sub-community of Mohyal Brahmins, and a prominent figure, Sunil Dutt, the father of Bollywood actor Sanjay Dutt, was reportedly a member of this group. While adhering to traditional Hindu practices, Hussaini Brahmins also observe Muharram, a Muslim tradition commemorating the martyrdom of Imam Hussain.

 

[Paitoo]

Hussaini Brahmins are also a thing, fought in the original battle of Karbala or something.

A quick Gooble sez:

Hussaini Brahmins are a unique Hindu community primarily found in the Punjab region, with historical ties to the Battle of Karbala. They are a sub-community of Mohyal Brahmins, and a prominent figure, Sunil Dutt, the father of Bollywood actor Sanjay Dutt, was reportedly a member of this group. While adhering to traditional Hindu practices, Hussaini Brahmins also observe Muharram, a Muslim tradition commemorating the martyrdom of Imam Hussain.

This has been debunked by experts. There is no evidence of Brahmins participating in battle of Karbala

 

[Sharma Ji]

This has been debunked by experts. There is no evidence of Brahmins participating in battle of Karbala

Hmm, ok.. I haven't much of an idea.

Could well be an urban myth too

 

[Sharma Ji]

Please giving links of experts/historians debunking this @Paitoo

The Forgotten History of Hussaini Brahmins and Muharram in Amritsar

A community historically considered to be

thewire.in

https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/hussaini-brahmins-hindus-muslims-muharram-mohyal-brahmins-5367234/

Who Are the Hussaini Brahmins?

Meet the Hindu Brahmins, who believe their forefathers fought alongside Imam Hussain in the Battle of Karbala and call themselves Hussaini Brahmins.

thecognate.com

 

[Vsdoc]

This has been debunked by experts. There is no evidence of Brahmins participating in battle of Karbala

True.

Urban legend.

Pakistan centric most likely.

 

[Paitoo]

Hmm, ok.. I haven't much of an idea.

Could well be an urban myth too

100% urban myth. What must have happened is that their ancestors may have gotten influenced by Islam, and adopted some practices in their lives. Despite this the Muslims wouldn't have accepted them, and these Brahmins developed some cock and bull story of having contributed to the Islamic cause to gain acceptance. Not the first time Indians (esp of the region now in Pakistan) displayed wannabe behaviour.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Shia and Sufi mazhars pe bhot log (hindus) jaate hain, tie dhaaga etc

I been to jumma raat/thursday qawwalis in Nizamuddin, Dilli too.. I think it is sufi/shia tradition.. you walk past a bunch of marble graves to get to the music area.. mast scene, good music.. lots of hymns to Ali .. mera ye Ali,mera vo Ali .. Ali Ali .. constant theme..

 

[Vsdoc]

100% urban myth. What must have happened is that their ancestors may have gotten influenced by Islam, and adopted some practices in their lives. Despite this the Muslims wouldn't have accepted them, and these Brahmins developed some cock and bull story of having contributed to the Islamic clause to gain acceptance. Not the first time Indians (esp of the region now in Pakistan) displayed wannabe behaviour.

Many sikh families in what is Pakistan right now regularly had muslim names. Men and women both. Mainly Persian.

@Lulldapull @TheNewb77 and @Mainerik can confirm.

 

[Paitoo]

Please giving links of experts/historians debunking this @Paitoo

The Forgotten History of Hussaini Brahmins and Muharram in Amritsar

A community historically considered to be

thewire.in

https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/hussaini-brahmins-hindus-muslims-muharram-mohyal-brahmins-5367234/

Who Are the Hussaini Brahmins?

Meet the Hindu Brahmins, who believe their forefathers fought alongside Imam Hussain in the Battle of Karbala and call themselves Hussaini Brahmins.

thecognate.com

I have read articles in the past. Don't have links readily available. You can google it.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I have read articles in the past. Don't have links readily available. You can google it.

You're probably right, I've just heard this tale over the years in these online spaces.