Americas' Number of Chinese illegally jumping the US border fences - Monthly updates.

[Hamartia Antidote]

I never denied that some Chinese nationals illegally travel to US.
The stories I heard in US was that in Fujian rural villages, some smugglers go to almost every house and try to convince the locals to make that trip, they promoise them the heavens and the local villages don't have much knowledge about the outside world and many fall for the scam. Most of them have families living in US, most are very distant relatives though, this is why most Chinese illegal immigrants into US are mainly from one province, Fujian.
They pay the "snake heads" around $50,000 and the smugglers will arrange a trip for them to reach US, after reaching US, the smugglers usually also take care of them for a short period of time, helping them to find a job and getting a lawyer for their naturalization process.

LOL! It doesn't work that way. The only way that works is if you turn yourself in at the border/embassy and ask for asylum.
Jumping the border and entering the US illegally will likely immediately disqualify you from any naturalization process.

 

[Beijingwalker]

LOL! It doesn't work that way. The only way that works is if you turn yourself in at the border and ask for asylum. Jumping the border will likely disqualify you.

There is a network, they can get it done, it's all about money.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

There is a network, they can get it done, it's all about money.

ok, so if that is somehow true you will then have to admit the number of Chinese nationals becoming US citizens or wanting to stay in the US must be spiking up.

 

[Beijingwalker]

ok, so if that is somehow true you will then have to admit the number of Chinese nationals becoming US citizens or wanting to stay in the US must be spiking up.

I never denied it, the same scam also happened to Myanmar when smugglers tricked tens of thousands, some of them are rich people, into Myanmar and locked them up once they were there, they promised moon to you and crazy enough, many people just believed them.

 

[Beijingwalker]

As for US immigration law, even when I was in US I found a big flaw to it. say one person gets into US illegally and somehow gets US citizenship, this person's immediate family suddenly becomes elligible to immigrate to US, and after they become US citizens, their immediate families also become elligible, and so on and so forth, the number just increases expontentially in a decade.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I never denied it, the same scam also happened to Myanmar when smugglers tricked tens of thousands, some of them are rich people, into Myanmar and locked them up once they were there, they promised moon to you and crazy enough, many people just believed them.

LOL! I don't understand this "tricked" part.
First you say they pay somebody like $50,000 to get the naturalization paperwork going, then apparently after years of going through the naturalization process they suddenly feel "tricked". Can you elaborate on the logic of that?

 

[Bilal9]

I understand why Vietnamese and Filipino people might migrate illegally to the US, but I’m curious about the Koreans who are also there in the list since their country is already developed.

Not all people in a 'developed country' are rich. You have to look at a GINI coefficient to know how lopsided the wealth distribution is. The flotsam, jetsam and dregs of society in a "high-income", "high-cost" economy are often the most forlorn. These are the people that take the risky journey to find a "better life" and "better opportunity" elsewhere.

In downtown LA or downtown Philadelphia, all you have to do is go down to skid row and see how desperate these homeless people are.

We have a saying in the subcontinent, "For those who don't have anyone to turn to - they can turn to Allah".

But it seems, in wealthy economies, the helpless destitute cannot even turn to God almighty.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

As for US immigration law, even when I was in US I found a big flaw to it. say one person gets into US illegally and somehow gets US citizenship, this person's immediate family suddenly becomes elligible to immigrate to US, and after they become US citizens, their immediate families also become elligible, and so on and so forth, the number just increases expontentially in a decade.

No, it isn't that simple. You can only bring over your parents. You can't bring over your siblings easily. There are people who have been waiting over 25 years to get a brother/sister over. They are on the bottom of the list.

 

[Beijingwalker]

LOL! I don't understand this "tricked" part.
First you say they pay somebody like $50,000 to get the naturalization paperwork going, then apparently after years of going through the naturalization process they suddenly feel "tricked". Can you elaborate on the logic of that?

The smuggler tricked them into paying that money, same thing happened in Myanmar too, China is fighting this criminal network.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The smuggler tricked them into paying that money, same thing happened in Myanmar too, China is fighting this criminal network.

They seem to have willingly paid $50K to get over the border. How have they been tricked?

Are you saying they went through like 5-10 years of waiting to get naturalized and afterwards suddenly nobody is handing them a $1Million job and they feel tricked?

Or are you saying the naturalization process itself is actually not there and it is a scam to think it is.

 

[Beijingwalker]

China and Singapore now have mutual visa free policy, and Singapore per capita income is much higher than US.
It's not all about income, "snake heads" promise other things and opportunities, they promise the moon to the people. This is what we call scam.

United States has a GDP per capita of $60,200 as of 2020, while in Singapore, the GDP per capita is $93,400 as of 2020.