[🇨🇳] China vs USA

[Lulldapull]

forced jiggy-jiggy of Nanking ladis log by Rapizaki Sans

Japan had these guys over the barrel big time. From the late 20's all the way till 1945. The Japanese took Beijing too and were unstoppable. US/ UK intervention saved China.

 

[Lulldapull]

Oh no. Our last war was with UN. MacArthur stepped down. The Chinese army occupied Seoul. And capture US and UK soldiers.

What is your educational background?

oh when you got used as a proxy by Stalin......

 

[Jiangnan]

Japan had these guys over the barrel big time. From the late 20's all the way till 1945. The Japanese took Beijing too and were unstoppable. US/ UK intervention saved China.

We all know. The Chinese military is fighting against the UN in Korea. And occupy Seoul. Force MacArthur to step down.

tell me. Fake Japs. The highest temperature you felt last time was a few thousand degrees Celsius?

 

[Jiangnan]

oh when you got used as a proxy by Stalin......

oh I thought it was when the British colonized you. Oh, 200 year colony...

 

[Sharma Ji]

Lol. JF-17 launched SOWs in a hot airspace and launched them accurately to send you lot a message. It's a battle proven platform and gets more advanced with each iteration. And still it falls on the lower spectrum of Chinese Military tech.

Wait for the Chinese 6th Gen now

Stand Off Weapon... launched from a safe distance, are they meant to be.

 

[steppeWolff]

Stand Off Weapon... launched from a safe distance, are they meant to be.

Well thats what you call modern warfare my guy. Exactly what Russians are doing with their FABs, but a bit late than us.

You complaining we arent fighting like its early 2000s?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Japan had these guys over the barrel big time. From the late 20's all the way till 1945. The Japanese took Beijing too and were unstoppable. US/ UK intervention saved China.

They OWE EVERYTHING to the west. Their rise was engineered by the west to find another enemy after they lost their 'red scare' card..

We all getting played here, brozanaki san,

 

[Sharma Ji]

Well thats what you call modern warfare my guy. Exactly what Russians are doing with their FABs, but a bit late than us.

You complaining we arent fighting like its early 2000s?

no, mostly dumb bombs like J-DAMS etc are still very much a thing. SOWs are more than guidance kits and a GPS.

 

[Jiangnan]

They OWE EVERYTHING to the west. Their rise was engineered by the west to find another enemy after they lost their 'red scare' card..

We all getting played here, brozanaki san,

We all know. South Asia was colonized by Britain for 200 years. What is preventing you from make a qualified rifle?

 

[Sharma Ji]

what's FAB ?

father of all bomb ? ..

 

[Sharma Ji]

We all know. South Asia was colonized by Britain for 200 years. What is preventing you from make a qualified rifle?

We buy the good stuff, they all lining up to sell us, transfer factories over.. soon spillover in homegrown arms, you see it in our guns already (not small arms, proper guns)

you got nobody willing to sell you, which is why you cheat and copy and steal.. which is fine, I guess.

be thankful you not yet direct confrontation with the USFK/USFJ .. you'll get cooked, much faster than a dumpling in a wok of boiling steam.

 

[steppeWolff]

no, mostly dumb bombs like J-DAMS etc are still very much a thing. SOWs are more than guidance kits and a GPS.

Dumb bombs are a thing of past where one adversary has complete air dominance and superiority. Modern mobile IADS dont let that happen. Exactly like in Ukraine. A lesson Russians learnt the very hard way.

Except USA and maybe China, no one can do that.

 

[steppeWolff]

what's FAB ?

father of all bomb ? ..

No.

FAB bomb use the UMPK, a winged system developed after 2022, for precision satellite guidance and increased stand-off distance.
Extremely effective.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Dumb bombs are a thing of past where one adversary has complete air dominance and superiority. Modern mobile IADS dont let that happen. Exactly like in Ukraine. A lesson Russians learnt the very hard way.

Except USA and maybe China, no one can do that.

They have conversion kits, "strap on" lol guided fins for their old big freefall bombs.

The use case still exists in threat environments where the AA is minimal or nil, strafing runs, bomblets etc .. still effective, bhai.

 

[steppeWolff]

They have conversion kits, "strap on" lol guided fins for their old big freefall bombs.

The use case still exists in threat environments where the AA is minimal or nil, strafing runs, bomblets etc .. still effective, bhai.

Yes effective against militias with maximum airdef extending to Manpads.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Yes effective against militias with maximum airdef extending to Manpads.

Use cases exist, and militarizes must therefore persist with these. Keep in mind also that guided munitions add a big cost factor to your operations (not to sound baniya, but it is what it is)

Horses for courses waali baat.

Militias with manpads are rare, and when they do have those capabilities, they're almost always in a proxy role backed by a behind the scenes waala haanth.

Even modern air defences, but, for well protected major nations.. its not a 100% coverage, its layered, there will almost always be some slippage, gets progressively denser and tougher as you approach priority assets. Indo Pak Cn ka dekh lo, zabardast mountainous terrain, rotarys can snake through and evade all rays, EW, and worst case ECMs also at their disposal.

Cat and mouse game.. all 3 of your your air, ground, and space game need to be on top.

 

[Jiangnan]

We buy the good stuff, they all lining up to sell us, transfer factories over.. soon spillover in homegrown arms, you see it in our guns already (not small arms, proper guns)

you got nobody willing to sell you, which is why you cheat and copy and steal.. which is fine, I guess.

be thankful you not yet direct confrontation with the USFK/USFJ .. you'll get cooked, much faster than a dumpling in a wok of boiling steam.

Um... I didn't know a deceived beggar had such a strange sense of morality.

The problem is. Why should I buy the garbage? These garbage are more suitable for you. isn't it?

India, A backward agricultural country excluded from the Global Innovation Index.

 

[Jiangnan]

We buy the good stuff, they all lining up to sell us, transfer factories over.. soon spillover in homegrown arms, you see it in our guns already (not small arms, proper guns)

you got nobody willing to sell you, which is why you cheat and copy and steal.. which is fine, I guess.

be thankful you not yet direct confrontation with the USFK/USFJ .. you'll get cooked, much faster than a dumpling in a wok of boiling steam.

I have disappointed you. My fighter jets and fleet often patrol near US territory. So why do I have to confront USFK/FJ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/25/norad-russian-chinese-jets-alaska/

So... India relies on receiving high kickbacks to purchase weapons. Can you really fight?

 

[Sharma Ji]

fine @Jiangnan

You win

You, like most online defence forum Chinese, aren't interested in a discussion and debate.

Literally all you know is "China good, all else bad"

Maybe its a language glitch, dunno.

 

[VCheng]

fine @Jiangnan

You win

You, like most online defence forum Chinese, aren't interested in a discussion and debate.

Literally all you know is "China good, all else bad"

Maybe its a language glitch, dunno.

It is called CommieBot Programming.