[🇨🇳] China vs USA

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US, China accuse each other of stoking regional tensions

Top US and Chinese officials exchanged warnings against stoking regional tensions during a meeting in Beijing yesterday after China became embroiled in security rows with American allies Japan and the Philippines.

US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, making the first such trip by someone in his role since 2016, and Chinese top diplomat Wang Yi met in Beijing for talks that were meant to smooth over relations.

But after their meeting, state media reported that Wang cautioned Washington against supporting the Philippines in the disputed South China Sea.

"The United States must not use bilateral treaties as an excuse to undermine China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, nor should it support or condone the Philippines' actions of infringement," Wang told Sullivan, according to state broadcaster CCTV.

Sullivan, who is US President Joe Biden's most senior security aide, doubled down on Washington's pledges to defend its regional partners.

"Mr Sullivan reaffirmed the United States' commitment to defending its Indo-Pacific allies," the White House said in a readout of their meeting.

Sullivan also "expressed concern about the PRC's destabilizing actions against lawful Philippine maritime operations in the South China Sea", it said, using an acronym for the People's Republic of China.

Sullivan landed in the Chinese capital on Tuesday for a three-day trip, saying on arrival he looked forward to "a very productive round of conversations" with foreign minister Wang.

The visit follows a summit between Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping in California in November 2023, and comes just over two months before elections in the United States.

But the meeting was shadowed by Washington's allies Japan and the Philippines blaming China in the past week for raising regional tensions.

Beijing said on Monday it had taken "control measures" against two Philippine Coast Guard ships that "illegally" entered an area of disputed reefs and waters.

Manila said the Chinese vessels had prevented Philippine ships from resupplying their own coast guard vessels in the area, blasting the move as "aggressive" and calling Beijing the "biggest disrupter" of peace in Southeast Asia.

According to CCTV, Wang emphasised to Sullivan that "China is firmly committed to safeguarding its territorial sovereignty and maritime rights over the South China Sea islands".

Tokyo meanwhile accused Beijing of violating its airspace on Monday, with a two-minute incursion by a surveillance aircraft off the Danjo Islands in the East China Sea.

It said the first confirmed incursion by a Chinese military aircraft into its airspace was a "serious violation" of its sovereignty and accused Beijing of becoming "increasingly active".

Sullivan and Wang have met five times over the past year-and-a-half -- in Washington, Vienna, Malta and Bangkok, as well as alongside US President Joe Biden and Chinese leader Xi Jinping at a November 2023 summit in California.

The US and Chinese officials also discussed the tense issue of Taiwan, the self-governing democracy that China claims.

China has kept up its sabre-rattling since the inauguration this year of President Lai Ching-te, whose party emphasises Taiwan's separate identity.

Wang stressed that Taiwan belonged to Beijing and that China will "certainly be unified".

He told Sullivan that the US should "put into practice its commitment not to support Taiwan independence" and stop arming Taiwan, according to CCTV.

The White House said Sullivan "underscored the importance of maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait."

The US and Chinese officials also discussed issues including Ukraine, the Middle East and the Korean Peninsula, both sides said.

Sullivan had "emphasized concerns" about China's support for Russia's defence industry during Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, the White House said.

Wang countered that China was committed to "working towards a political solution to the Ukraine crisis" and warned Washington off imposing "illegal unilateral sanctions."​

 

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Constructive talks held with China: US

US President Joe Biden is looking forward to talks with Xi Jinping in the “coming weeks”, top White House aide Jake Sullivan told the Chinese leader yesterday as they met for rare talks in Beijing.

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Constructive talks held with China: US

US President Joe Biden is looking forward to talks with Xi Jinping in the "coming weeks", top White House aide Jake Sullivan told the Chinese leader yesterday as they met for rare talks in Beijing.

Sullivan, the first US national security advisor to visit China since 2016, met Xi as he wrapped up three days of talks in Beijing which also saw him sit down with Foreign Minister Wang Yi and other high-ranking officials.

His visit came as China was embroiled in security rows with US allies Japan and the Philippines.

Sullivan told Xi during a meeting yesterday in Beijing's ornate Great Hall of the People that Biden "looks forward to engaging with you again in the coming weeks".

"President Biden is committed to responsibly managing this consequential relationship to ensure that competition does not veer into conflict or confrontation, and to work together where our interests align," he said.

Chinese state media said Xi told Sullivan that in spite of "great changes", China and the US could still enjoy good ties.

"China's commitment to the goal of stable, healthy, and sustainable development of China-US relations hasn't changed," Xi said.

"We hope that the US will work with China to meet each other halfway," he added, according to CCTV.

Sullivan told reporters at the US embassy that the talks with Chinese officials had lasted for 14 hours, describing the discussions as "constructive, candid, substantive".

The Ukraine war came up during the talks, but Sullivan said that both sides had not reached "any particular plan".

"I can't say that we did make progress on that issue," he said.

The talks did not touch on the upcoming US election, but Sullivan said that Vice President Kamala Harris wanted to maintain "open lines of communication" with China.

On Wednesday, Sullivan and top diplomat Wang had discussed plans for their leaders to talk in the coming weeks.

They also clashed over China's increasingly assertive approach in disputed maritime regions.

The officials agreed to hold a call between the two sides' theatre commanders "in the near future", a readout from the White House said.

Sullivan also raised the importance of "freedom of navigation" in the South China Sea, where China and the Philippines have clashed in recent months, and "stability" in the Taiwan Strait, Washington said.​

 

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China sanctions 9 US defence firms in response to Taiwan sales

China imposed sanctions on nine US defence firms on Wednesday, the foreign ministry said, describing the measures as retaliation for Washington’s approval of military equipment sales to Taiwan this week...

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China sanctions 9 US defence firms in response to Taiwan sales
Agence France-Presse . Beijing 18 September, 2024, 22:09

China imposed sanctions on nine US defence firms on Wednesday, the foreign ministry said, describing the measures as retaliation for Washington’s approval of military equipment sales to Taiwan this week.

‘Weapons sales by the United States to China’s Taiwan region have seriously violated the one-China principle, seriously infringed upon China’s sovereignty and security interests, and damaged China-US relations,’ foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian told a news conference.

‘China strongly condemns and firmly opposes this and has lodged solemn representations with the United States,’ Lin said.

He said Beijing was ‘taking resolute countermeasures’ by imposing sanctions on nine US defence firms, which were announced in an earlier foreign ministry statement.

The companies, which include aerospace firm Sierra Nevada Corporation, will have their assets in China frozen and all transactions with China-based people and entities will be prohibited, the statement said.

The United States switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979 but has remained Taiwan’s most important partner and its biggest arms supplier, sparking repeated condemnations from China.

Beijing and Washington have repeatedly butted heads in recent years on a range of other issues related to trade, access to advanced technology and China’s increasingly assertive actions in the disputed South China Sea.

Top White House aide Jake Sullivan met high-ranking Chinese military official Zhang Youxia last month during the first visit to China by a US national security adviser since 2016.

Zhang warned during that meeting that the status of the self-ruled island was ‘the first red line that cannot be crossed in China-US relations’, demanding that the United States ‘halts military collusion with Taiwan’.

Meanwhile, a Taiwanese court on Wednesday sentenced a former Chinese naval captain to eight months in prison for illegally entering the self-governing island by boat.

China claims democratic Taiwan as part of its territory and has in recent years ramped up military and political pressures on the island.

The ex-naval captain, Ruan Fangyong, was one of 18 purported defectors from China over the past year, officials have said.​

 

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India withdraws envoy, diplomats named ‘persons of interest’ in Canada probe

India withdrew its envoy to Canada on Monday along with other officials and diplomats who Ottawa named as “persons of interest” in a matter related to an investigation in the country, the foreign ministry said. New Delhi rejected the “preposterous imputations” of the Canadi

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Lessons from Iran missile attacks for defending against China’s advanced arsenal
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Published :
Oct 14, 2024 18:00
Updated :
Oct 14, 2024 18:00

Projectiles are seen in the sky after Iran fired a salvo of ballistic missiles, amid cross-border hostilities between Hezbollah and Israel, as seen from Tel Aviv, Israel, October 1, 2024. Photo : REUTERS/Ammar Awad/Files

Iran’s missile barrage this month against Israel, after a similar large-scale attack in April, shows the value, as well as the shortcomings, of US and allied missile defences in a potential Indo-Pacific conflict with China, analysts say.

Although differences between the two scenarios limit the lessons that can be learnt, the nearly 400 missiles of different types that Iran has fired at Israel this year offer the United States and China some idea of what works and what does not.

For Washington, the main takeaway from Iran’s Oct. 1 attacks - the largest sample yet of ballistic missiles fired against modern defences - could be that Beijing’s missiles would be more difficult to intercept than Iran’s and that the ability to strike back would be needed to deter a mass attack, said Collin Koh of the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.

“If we look purely through the lenses of deterrence, no longer can one pin hopes on deterrence by denial only - that is, the hope that effective defences can blunt the efficacy of missile strikes,” Koh said. “Deterrence by punishment might have to become normative going forward.”

There is no immediate threat of missile conflict in the Indo-Pacific region. The distances, thousands of kilometres, are greater than in the Middle East. China’s weapons are more advanced, including manoeuvring warheads and precision guidance. And the target areas are scattered across the region, making a massed attack more difficult.

China’s military launched a new round of war games near Taiwan on Monday, saying it was a warning to the “separatist acts of Taiwan independence forces”. A Taiwan security source said there were no signs so far of any missile launches.

China’s military launched a new round of war games near Taiwan on Monday, drawing condemnation from the governments in Taipei and the US.

The United States has developed and deployed new weapons in the region this year to counter China, including the AIM-174B air-to-air missile and the ground-based Typhon missile battery in the Philippines, which can launch SM-6 and Tomahawk missiles.

The US Indo-Pacific Command and China’s Ministry of Defence did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

CHINA’S MISSILES LONGER-RANGE, LESS ACCURATE

On the other hand, simply being better informed about how offensive and defensive systems perform after Iran’s missile fusillades - many were intercepted - may reduce the chance of conflict, said Ankit Panda of the US-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

“Any military force planning long-range missile strikes will need to plan around the possible effects of missile defences,” Panda said. “Of course, without clarity on how well a given missile defence system might perform, this could lead to massive escalation.”

Israel’s layered air and missile defences - from its long-range Arrow systems to the Iron Dome shield meant to handle slower, less complex threats - are tailored to the threats it faces: guided ballistic missiles from powers such as Iran mixed with unguided rockets launched from just over Israel’s borders.

The picture is much different in the Indo-Pacific region for the US and its allies, which use the Lockheed Martin (LMT.N), opens new tab and Raytheon (RTX.CO), opens new tab Patriot, THAAD and sea-based Aegis systems for missile defence.

The accuracy of China’s DF-26, its most numerous conventional intermediate-range ballistic missile, is estimated to be as good as 150 m (500 feet), according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Missile Defense Project. Its DF-21 is shorter-ranged, though some variants have an accuracy of 50 m.

Both can hit most US and allied targets in the region. The DF-26 can reach Guam, the site of major US military facilities. The Pentagon has estimated that China may have several hundred of the missiles.

By contrast, Iran’s missiles such as the Fattah-1 are theoretically more accurate - within tens of metres - but are much shorter-ranged. The number of these newer missiles is not public, but US Air Force General Kenneth McKenzie told Congress last year that Iran had more than 3,000 ballistic missiles of all types.

China’s capabilities outstrip Iran’s in other ways, said Malcolm Davis, a senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Missile attacks would most likely be coordinated with anti-satellite strikes and cyberwarfare, both designed to complicate defence.

“Western (integrated air and missile defence) systems in the Indo-Pacific would have a much tougher time defeating a large Chinese missile strike, comprising hundreds or even thousands of missiles, compared to what the Iranians are capable of,” Davis said.​

 

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US, China must ‘get along’

Chinese President Xi Jinping said yesterday Beijing and Washington must find a way to “get along” in a message to US president-elect Donald Trump, state media reported.

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US, China must ‘get along’
Xi tells Trump

Chinese President Xi Jinping said yesterday Beijing and Washington must find a way to "get along" in a message to US president-elect Donald Trump, state media reported.

In his first message to Trump since the former president secured a second term, Xi said "history has shown that China and the United States benefit from cooperation and suffer from confrontation", state broadcaster CCTV said.

CCTV did not specify how the message was conveyed.​

 

[Saif]

US firms bullish on China’s industrial transformation

China’s ongoing transformation and upgrade of traditional industries, coupled with the expansion of emerging sectors, will offer manufacturers in the United States vast opportunities for growth and commercial engagement, said executives of US corporations.

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US firms bullish on China’s industrial transformation

The booth of GE Vernova Inc is seen at the China International Import Expo in Shanghai. The US energy equipment manufacturer believes that China’s commitment to energy transition and progress in building a new electricity system is remarkable. Photo: China Daily

China's ongoing transformation and upgrade of traditional industries, coupled with the expansion of emerging sectors, will offer manufacturers in the United States vast opportunities for growth and commercial engagement, said executives of US corporations.

They said this strategic shift not only strengthens China's industrial landscape, but also creates new avenues for US firms to innovate and grow within its market, even against the backdrop of heightened geopolitical tensions and slowing demand for goods in many regions around the world.

Milliken & Co, a US specialty chemical and performance materials company, is expected to maintain double-digit growth in China through 2025, driven by the country's rising demand for high-end textile materials and chemicals.

"With years of accumulated technologies and experience at our innovation center in the US, we are aiming to integrate these strengths with new applications in China, creating a unique range of products specifically tailored for the Chinese market," said Ed Zhao, the group's senior vice-president and managing director for Asia.

The expansion of Milliken's Shanghai Technology and research and development center was completed in late 2023, making it the group's largest innovation facility in the Asia-Pacific region.

Zhao said his company hopes to see stable and harmonious US-China business relations. For companies, having a stable and predictable business environment is fairly critical.

The South Carolina-based group currently operates two China plants — in Shanghai and Zhangjiagang, Jiangsu province. In addition to supplying textile materials and chemicals to domestic customers, it also exports to countries such as South Korea, Singapore, Vietnam and India from China.

Exports of foreign-invested businesses in China amounted to 5.77 trillion yuan ($796.91 billion) between January and October 2024, marking a year-on-year growth of 1.9 percent, according to data from the General Administration of Customs.

Also upbeat about the Chinese market, GE Vernova Inc, a US energy equipment manufacturer, believes that China's commitment to energy transition and progress in building a new electricity system is remarkable.

China's large renewable installed base and strong renewable manufacturing capability uniquely enable green hydrogen accessibility and affordability to be achieved in its market first, leading the global energy transition, said Ramesh Singaram, president and CEO of GE Vernova Gas Power Asia.

The US company and Heilongjiang province-based Harbin Electric Corp signed a cooperation agreement to provide two heavy duty gas turbines for CHN Energy Investment Group's Anji power plant in Zhejiang province, during the seventh China International Import Expo in Shanghai last week.

The project is expected to be operational in 2026, with an installed capacity of more than 1.6 gigawatts. This will help ensure the reliability of the energy system and the stability of the power grid, supporting the continued expansion of renewable energy deployment in Zhejiang.

China's continued advancements in market openness, product innovation and business model transformation will solidify its role as a strategic priority for global manufacturing businesses, driving sustainable long-term financial returns, said Peng Bo, a researcher at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation in Beijing.

As China has already become a key export hub for many foreign corporations, this reality has brought many growth points for companies, including service sector players, he said.

US express transport company Federal Express Corp announced earlier this week the increased frequency of an international cargo flight between Qingdao, Shandong province and the US, alongside the inauguration of its Qingdao international gateway facility.

This initiative will enhance Fed-Ex's network in China and empower local businesses to capitalize on global trade opportunities with more efficient and intelligent logistics services and solutions, said Poh-Yian Koh, senior vice-president of FedEx and president of FedEx China.​

 

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Xi tells Biden support for Taiwan a ‘red line’ in ties

Chinese president Xi Jinping warned the United States on Saturday not to cross a ‘red line’ in support for Taiwan, but told his counterpart Joe Biden that Beijing was willing to work...

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Xi tells Biden support for Taiwan a ‘red line’ in ties
Agence France-Presse . Lima, Peru 17 November, 2024, 22:17

Chinese president Xi Jinping. | File photo

Chinese president Xi Jinping warned the United States on Saturday not to cross a ‘red line’ in support for Taiwan, but told his counterpart Joe Biden that Beijing was willing to work with the incoming administration of Donald Trump.

Biden and Xi met on the side-lines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Peru, two months before Trump takes office and amid concerns of new trade wars and diplomatic upheaval.

China claims Taiwan as its own territory and has refused to rule out using force to seize it, while the United States is the self-ruled island’s main security backer even though it does not recognise Taipei diplomatically.

Xi told Biden that the ‘Taiwan issue, democracy and human rights, pathways and systems, and development interests are China’s four red lines that must not be challenged’, according to Chinese state broadcaster CCTV.

‘These are the most important guardrails and safety net for China-US relations,’ CCTV reported Xi as saying.

‘The separatist actions of ‘Taiwan independence’ are incompatible with peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait,’ he added.

Taiwan’s foreign ministry said Sunday that ‘China’s on-going military provocations near Taiwan are the root cause of destroying regional peace and stability and the major threat to global economic prosperity’.

Xi also told Biden that Washington ‘should not intervene in bilateral disputes and not condone or support provocative impulses’ in the South China Sea, according to CCTV.

Beijing has this year pressed its sweeping claims in the contested waterway with greater assertiveness, despite increased frictions with regional neighbours and a longstanding international ruling that its claims have no legal basis.

Xi also said China’s position on the war in Ukraine was ‘open and aboveboard’, and that Beijing would not allow tensions on the Korean peninsula to ‘descend into conflict or chaos’, CCTV reported.

He announced during a separate meeting that China would host the next APEC summit in 2026.

State news agency Xinhua said those talks would aim to ‘unite Asia-Pacific countries to champion open economic and trade cooperation while rejecting protectionist and confrontational trade tactics’.

But Xi said China would ‘strive for a smooth transition’ in relations with the United States and is ready to work with the incoming Trump government.

‘China is ready to work with the new US administration to maintain communication, expand cooperation and manage differences, so as to strive for a smooth transition of the China-US relationship,’ Xi told Biden through a translator.

In his first White House term, Trump engaged in a bruising trade war with China, imposing tariffs on billions of dollars in Chinese products and drawing retaliation from Beijing.

He embraced a similar stance on the campaign trail this year.

Both sides should ‘keep exploring the right way for the two major countries to get along well with each other,’ Xi said.

Xi warned Saturday that bilateral ties could ‘encounter twists and turns or even regress’ if one side regarded the other as an opponent or enemy, according to the official Xinhua news agency.

‘Major country competition should not be the underlying logic of the times,’ Xi added, urging against a ‘small yard, high fences’ approach.

He added that ‘a stable China-US relationship is critical’ to both parties and the world, noting that Beijing continues to aim for healthy ties.

But he stressed that Beijing’s position of ‘firmly safeguarding its sovereignty, security and development interests has not changed,’ according to Xinhua.​

 

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India withdraws envoy, diplomats named ‘persons of interest’ in Canada probe

India withdrew its envoy to Canada on Monday along with other officials and diplomats who Ottawa named as “persons of interest” in a matter related to an investigation in the country, the foreign ministry said. New Delhi rejected the “preposterous imputations” of the Canadi

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Lessons from Iran missile attacks for defending against China’s advanced arsenal
REUTERS
Published :
Oct 14, 2024 18:00
Updated :
Oct 14, 2024 18:00

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Projectiles are seen in the sky after Iran fired a salvo of ballistic missiles, amid cross-border hostilities between Hezbollah and Israel, as seen from Tel Aviv, Israel, October 1, 2024. Photo : REUTERS/Ammar Awad/Files

Iran’s missile barrage this month against Israel, after a similar large-scale attack in April, shows the value, as well as the shortcomings, of US and allied missile defences in a potential Indo-Pacific conflict with China, analysts say.

Although differences between the two scenarios limit the lessons that can be learnt, the nearly 400 missiles of different types that Iran has fired at Israel this year offer the United States and China some idea of what works and what does not.

For Washington, the main takeaway from Iran’s Oct. 1 attacks - the largest sample yet of ballistic missiles fired against modern defences - could be that Beijing’s missiles would be more difficult to intercept than Iran’s and that the ability to strike back would be needed to deter a mass attack, said Collin Koh of the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.

“If we look purely through the lenses of deterrence, no longer can one pin hopes on deterrence by denial only - that is, the hope that effective defences can blunt the efficacy of missile strikes,” Koh said. “Deterrence by punishment might have to become normative going forward.”

There is no immediate threat of missile conflict in the Indo-Pacific region. The distances, thousands of kilometres, are greater than in the Middle East. China’s weapons are more advanced, including manoeuvring warheads and precision guidance. And the target areas are scattered across the region, making a massed attack more difficult.

China’s military launched a new round of war games near Taiwan on Monday, saying it was a warning to the “separatist acts of Taiwan independence forces”. A Taiwan security source said there were no signs so far of any missile launches.

China’s military launched a new round of war games near Taiwan on Monday, drawing condemnation from the governments in Taipei and the US.

The United States has developed and deployed new weapons in the region this year to counter China, including the AIM-174B air-to-air missile and the ground-based Typhon missile battery in the Philippines, which can launch SM-6 and Tomahawk missiles.

The US Indo-Pacific Command and China’s Ministry of Defence did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

CHINA’S MISSILES LONGER-RANGE, LESS ACCURATE

On the other hand, simply being better informed about how offensive and defensive systems perform after Iran’s missile fusillades - many were intercepted - may reduce the chance of conflict, said Ankit Panda of the US-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

“Any military force planning long-range missile strikes will need to plan around the possible effects of missile defences,” Panda said. “Of course, without clarity on how well a given missile defence system might perform, this could lead to massive escalation.”

Israel’s layered air and missile defences - from its long-range Arrow systems to the Iron Dome shield meant to handle slower, less complex threats - are tailored to the threats it faces: guided ballistic missiles from powers such as Iran mixed with unguided rockets launched from just over Israel’s borders.

The picture is much different in the Indo-Pacific region for the US and its allies, which use the Lockheed Martin (LMT.N), opens new tab and Raytheon (RTX.CO), opens new tab Patriot, THAAD and sea-based Aegis systems for missile defence.

The accuracy of China’s DF-26, its most numerous conventional intermediate-range ballistic missile, is estimated to be as good as 150 m (500 feet), according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Missile Defense Project. Its DF-21 is shorter-ranged, though some variants have an accuracy of 50 m.

Both can hit most US and allied targets in the region. The DF-26 can reach Guam, the site of major US military facilities. The Pentagon has estimated that China may have several hundred of the missiles.

By contrast, Iran’s missiles such as the Fattah-1 are theoretically more accurate - within tens of metres - but are much shorter-ranged. The number of these newer missiles is not public, but US Air Force General Kenneth McKenzie told Congress last year that Iran had more than 3,000 ballistic missiles of all types.

China’s capabilities outstrip Iran’s in other ways, said Malcolm Davis, a senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Missile attacks would most likely be coordinated with anti-satellite strikes and cyberwarfare, both designed to complicate defence.

“Western (integrated air and missile defence) systems in the Indo-Pacific would have a much tougher time defeating a large Chinese missile strike, comprising hundreds or even thousands of missiles, compared to what the Iranians are capable of,” Davis said.​

I don't believe that China has neither the missile technology that Iran possesses nor does it have the drones or the cruise missiles that Iran possesses and more importantly has neither the numbers nor the experience to use these new weapons in warfare.

China is a US client state.

 

[Saif]

China is a US client state.

Are you sure?

 

[Lulldapull]

Are you sure?

Of course it is. The US and China doing $800 billion in annual trade yaar. Everything else takes a backseat no?

China supports Pakistans military junta and the one in Myanmar. Both brutal military dictatorships.

China also supports the entire GCC architecture and never confronts the US.

Taiwan issue is just a gimmick to fool everyone that there’s discord.

It’s all about the money. Nothing else.

 

[Saif]

It’s all about the money. Nothing else.

Do you really believe China puts money over sovereignty when it comes to dealing with the USA?

 

[Lulldapull]

Do you really believe China puts money over sovereignty when it comes to dealing with the USA?

Of course! What has China done on Taiwan yet?

Nothing!

Without the US transferring its manufacturing to China 30 years ago, China’s rise would not be possible.

China was also at odds with the former USSR, hence became a natural ally of the US. The US outsourcing its manufacturing over to China was its reward for opposing the USSR.

 

[Saif]

Of course! What has China done on Taiwan yet?

Nothing!

Without the US transferring its manufacturing to China 30 years ago, China’s rise would not be possible.

China was also at odds with the former USSR, hence became a natural ally of the US. The US outsourcing its manufacturing over to China was its reward for opposing the USSR.

The world was different during cold war. In 2024, China considers America as their number one enemy. All of Chinese military preparations are aimed at defeating the US armed forces in South China sea. The reason China doesn't engage with the USA in a war is because of its limitations in power projection capabilities. China has a grand plan to surpass the US in military might within 2050. We will see USA as a declining power 2050 onwards.

 

[Lulldapull]

The world was different during cold war. In 2024, China considers America as their number one enemy. All of Chinese military preparations are aimed at defeating the US armed forces in South China sea. The reason China doesn't engage with the USA in a war is because of its limitations in power projection capabilities. China has a grand plan to surpass the US in military might within 2050. We will see USA as a declining power 2050 onwards.

Oh bhai, let’s get real here. Chinese are an introverted civilization since their beginnings from 3 millennium ago no?

They are businessmen, not an empire! Never were and never will be.

Leave the empire building to the iranis. They are challenging the US along with Russia, not China. China does exactly what the US says.

 

[Saif]

Oh bhai, let’s get real here. Chinese are an introverted civilization since their beginnings from 3 millennium ago no?

They are businessmen, not an empire! Never were and never will be.

Leave the empire building to the iranis. They are challenging the US along with Russia, not China. China does exactly what the US says.

Iran is too small geographically, population and resource wise to be a superpower. If Iran plays its cards wisely, it could become a regional power by 2050.

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran is too small geographically, population and resource wise to be a superpower. If Iran plays its cards wisely, it could become a regional power by 2050.

This is Iran today bhai:

What is Iran’s ‘axis of resistance’ and why is it uniting in fury against the US and Israel?

The Shia militant groups operating in Iraq, Lebanon and other parts of the Middle East share political and ideological connections, yet they also have their own nationalist goals.

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Iran's already bigger than India. Chinese can't fight, and don't want to either. They are passive/ peaceful businessmen like the Hindus. Not empire builders.

Irans already eclipsed Sawdi Judea, Al-Turkiya and Pakistan combined in geo-politics long ago. These wars you see in the ME are a confirmation of this reality. Soon Iran will make Israel its toady and the muslim world will look on in dismay.

 

[Saif]

US aircraft flies over Taiwan Strait

Beijing said yesterday it deployed air and naval forces to monitor a US military plane as it flew over politically sensitive waters separating China and Taiwan.

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US aircraft flies over Taiwan Strait
China deploys air, naval forces

Beijing said yesterday it deployed air and naval forces to monitor a US military plane as it flew over politically sensitive waters separating China and Taiwan.

"A US Navy P-8A Poseidon transited the Taiwan Strait in international airspace on November 26, 2024 (local time)," the US Navy's 7th Fleet said in a statement.

"The aircraft's transit of the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the United States' commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific."

China said it had monitored the aircraft and condemned the flight for being "openly hyped".

"US remarks distort legal principles, confuse the public and mislead international perception," said Cao Jun, a senior colonel for China's Eastern Theatre Air Force.​

 

[Saif]

China says it ‘firmly opposes’ US military aid to Taiwan

China said Sunday it ‘firmly opposed’ US president Joe Biden’s approval of $571.3 million in defence assistance for Taiwan.

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China says it ‘firmly opposes’ US military aid to Taiwan
Agence France-Presse . Beijing 22 December, 2024, 22:18

China said Sunday it ‘firmly opposed’ US president Joe Biden’s approval of $571.3 million in defence assistance for Taiwan.

The White House said Friday that Biden had authorised the drawdown ‘of up to $571.3 million in defence articles and services of the Department of Defence, and military education and training, to provide assistance to Taiwan’.

The White House statement did not provide details of the military assistance package, which comes less than three months after one worth $567 million was authorised.

‘This move gravely infringes on China’s sovereignty and security interests,’ Beijing’s foreign ministry said in a statement, adding it ‘firmly opposes this action’.

China ‘has lodged stern representations with the US at the earliest opportunity’, it said.

The country’s Taiwan Affairs Office said such actions by the US ‘contradict its leaders’ serious commitments’ to not supporting ‘Taiwan independence’.

‘We demand that the US immediately cease arming Taiwan and handle the Taiwan issue with the utmost caution,’ said spokeswoman Zhu Fenglian, according to state broadcaster CCTV.

The United States does not officially recognise Taiwan diplomatically, but it is the self-ruled island’s strategic ally and largest supplier of weapons.

China, which has ramped up political and military pressure on Taiwan in recent years, has repeatedly called for Washington to cease sending arms and assistance to the island, which it claims as part of its territory.

Taiwan received 38 advanced Abrams battle tanks from the United States this week — reportedly its first new tanks in 30 years.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Man nobody takes China seriously. Their whole economy/ existence tied into the corporate capitalist west.

Anybody denying this is a foolish colored person in conflict with himself and uneasy living in western society.....lol

 

[Saif]

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory. The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan
UNB
Published :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42
Updated :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42

The American and Chinese flags wave at Genting Snow Park, Feb. 2, 2022, in Zhangjiakou, China. Photo : AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory.

The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government’s annual defense spending bill, which a Chinese Foreign Ministry statement said “includes multiple negative sections on China.”

China objects to American military assistance for Taiwan and often imposes sanctions on related companies after a sale or aid package is announced. The sanctions generally have a limited impact, because American defense companies don’t sell arms or other military goods to China. The U.S. is the main supplier of weapons to Taiwan for its defense.

The seven companies being sanctioned are Insitu Inc., Hudson Technologies Co., Saronic Technologies, Inc., Raytheon Canada, Raytheon Australia, Aerkomm Inc. and Oceaneering International Inc., the Foreign Ministry statement said. It said that “relevant senior executives” of the companies are also sanctioned, without naming any.

Any assets they have in China will be frozen, and organizations and individuals in China are prohibited from engaging in any activity with them, it said.

U.S. President Joe Biden last week authorized up to $571 million in Defense Department material and services and military education and training for Taiwan. Separately, the Defense Department announced that $295 million in military sales had been approved.

The U.S. defense bill boosts military spending to $895 billion and directs resources toward a more confrontational approach to China. It establishes a fund that could be used to send military resources to Taiwan in much the same way that the U.S. has backed Ukraine. It also expands a ban on U.S. military purchases of Chinese products ranging from drone technology to garlic for military commissaries.

Zhang Xiaogang, a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesperson, said earlier this week that the U.S. is hyping up the “so-called” threat from China to justify increased military spending.

“U.S. military spending has topped the world and keeps increasing every year,” he said at a press conference. “This fully exposes the belligerent nature of the U.S. and its obsession with hegemony and expansion.”

The Foreign Ministry statement said the U.S. moves violate agreements between the two countries on Taiwan, interfere in China’s domestic affairs and undermine the nation’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Taiwan’s government said earlier this month that China had sent dozens of ships into nearby seas to practice a blockade of the island, a move that Taiwan said undermined peace and stability and disrupted international shipping and trade. China has not confirmed or commented on the reported military activity.​

 

[Bilal9]

Man nobody takes China seriously. Their whole economy/ existence tied into the corporate capitalist west.

Anybody denying this is a foolish colored person in conflict with himself and uneasy living in western society.....lol

Aaaaaa - I wouldn't be so quick to characterize it like that. Although I respect your opinion. Hear me out.

After a while (and it has been a while) - China has now mostly absorbed most critical industrial technologies from the West and is now self-sufficient in internal consumption (and technology) and not so much dependent on the West. Their internal markets (for example automobile market alone) - is bigger than that of the US and the largest in the world. They are also far ahead in mfg. and consumption of EV technology.

Automotive industry in China - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They have developed their own passenger airliner (two models COMAC C909 and C919) and will soon go into another model (C929 - equal to a B787), which will all soon be powered by their own turbofan engines.

This new EV model (AITO M9) was a JV between MBZ and Huawei and uses Chinese developed EV tech.

Bangladesh is an interesting market for Chinese luxury automobiles, and although the numbers are small - it is remarkable because former Infiniti and Lexus owners (some of them my friends) are buying these (Haval is one of the brands).

After a while a country like China becomes less and less dependent - for its economy, on outside trade or outside technology. China has passed that threshold sometime ago.

Brother @Jiangnan - would you agree with my assessment?

 

[Lulldapull]

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory. The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan
UNB
Published :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42
Updated :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42

View attachment 12287
The American and Chinese flags wave at Genting Snow Park, Feb. 2, 2022, in Zhangjiakou, China. Photo : AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory.

The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government’s annual defense spending bill, which a Chinese Foreign Ministry statement said “includes multiple negative sections on China.”

China objects to American military assistance for Taiwan and often imposes sanctions on related companies after a sale or aid package is announced. The sanctions generally have a limited impact, because American defense companies don’t sell arms or other military goods to China. The U.S. is the main supplier of weapons to Taiwan for its defense.

The seven companies being sanctioned are Insitu Inc., Hudson Technologies Co., Saronic Technologies, Inc., Raytheon Canada, Raytheon Australia, Aerkomm Inc. and Oceaneering International Inc., the Foreign Ministry statement said. It said that “relevant senior executives” of the companies are also sanctioned, without naming any.

Any assets they have in China will be frozen, and organizations and individuals in China are prohibited from engaging in any activity with them, it said.

U.S. President Joe Biden last week authorized up to $571 million in Defense Department material and services and military education and training for Taiwan. Separately, the Defense Department announced that $295 million in military sales had been approved.

The U.S. defense bill boosts military spending to $895 billion and directs resources toward a more confrontational approach to China. It establishes a fund that could be used to send military resources to Taiwan in much the same way that the U.S. has backed Ukraine. It also expands a ban on U.S. military purchases of Chinese products ranging from drone technology to garlic for military commissaries.

Zhang Xiaogang, a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesperson, said earlier this week that the U.S. is hyping up the “so-called” threat from China to justify increased military spending.

“U.S. military spending has topped the world and keeps increasing every year,” he said at a press conference. “This fully exposes the belligerent nature of the U.S. and its obsession with hegemony and expansion.”

The Foreign Ministry statement said the U.S. moves violate agreements between the two countries on Taiwan, interfere in China’s domestic affairs and undermine the nation’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Taiwan’s government said earlier this month that China had sent dozens of ships into nearby seas to practice a blockade of the island, a move that Taiwan said undermined peace and stability and disrupted international shipping and trade. China has not confirmed or commented on the reported military activity.​

Oh bhai please......China is a US toady.......Its fairly obvious no?

Just like Al-Turkiya or Al-Qaeda Arabs too no?

Lets get real.

I never seen one china weapon ever being used against da west no?

Iran far ahead of china in modern weaponry. We see Iranian weapons being used all over with varying degrees of success.

Nobody wanna buy china weapons. And when we saw CH-4/ Wingloongs in action, they all got shot down.

I don't even know what else to say here.

 

[Bilal9]

Oh bhai please......China is a US toady.......Its fairly obvious no?

Just like Al-Turkiya or Al-Qaeda Arabs too no?

Lets get real.

I never seen one china chickunn weapon being used against da west no?

Iran far ahead of china chickunn in modern weaponry.

Nobody wanna buy china chickunn weapons.

I don't even know what else to say here.

Okay - but please explain why you think it is a " US toady"

 

[Lulldapull]

Okay - but please explain why you think it is a " US toady"

Its a US toady because all its economy is tied in with the US......Without western intervention/ assistance, China would've still been smoking da peace pipe no? The West propped em up to counter the USSR.....you know all this no?

Its also a toady because the west allows it access to proprietary technology upon western decisions.

Anybody can see right thru this no?

 

[Jiangnan]

Its a US toady because all its economy is tied in with the US......Without western intervention/ assistance, China would've still been smoking da peace pipe no? The West propped em up to counter the USSR.....you know all this no?

Its also a toady because the west allows it access to proprietary technology upon western decisions.

Anybody can see right thru this no?

MacArthur: Why didn't you become my Chief of Staff at that time?

 

[Jiangnan]

Oh bhai please......China is a US toady.......Its fairly obvious no?

Just like Al-Turkiya or Al-Qaeda Arabs too no?

Lets get real.

I never seen one china weapon ever being used against da west no?

Iran far ahead of china in modern weaponry. We see Iranian weapons being used all over with varying degrees of success.

Nobody wanna buy china weapons. And when we saw CH-4/ Wingloongs in action, they all got shot down.

I don't even know what else to say here.

one example: Beidou Navigation. Iran only uses Beidou navigation.

Didn't you see the link I gave you? Or did you intentionally forget it?

Chinese Laser Anti-Drone System Spotted In Iran

A very high-profile appearance by Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given us a glimpse at some of China's latest counter-drone technology.

www.twz.com

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-helps-iran-supply-drones-to-russia-quickly-investigators-say-dd492264

As for whether Chinese weapons are fighting against the West/Russia.



Now I'm telling you. Chinese Robot dogs can arm both Russian and Ukrainian armies simultaneously.

My question is. You know nothing about modern technology. Or intentionally forgetting certain information?

 

[Lulldapull]

MacArthur: Why didn't you become my Chief of Staff at that time?

Dude, all your economy tied into the western capitalist corporate system. Just like da hendu too no?

Yous both trying yer level best in suckin up.

Its been so long too no?

 

[Lulldapull]

one example: Beidou Navigation. Iran only uses Beidou navigation.

Didn't you see the link I gave you? Or did you intentionally forget it?

Chinese Laser Anti-Drone System Spotted In Iran

A very high-profile appearance by Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given us a glimpse at some of China's latest counter-drone technology.

www.twz.com

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-helps-iran-supply-drones-to-russia-quickly-investigators-say-dd492264

As for whether Chinese weapons are fighting against the West/Russia.



Now I'm telling you. Chinese Robot dogs can arm both Russian and Ukrainian armies simultaneously.

My question is. You know nothing about modern technology. Or intentionally forgetting certain information?

China refuses to deal with Iran outta fear of da west.

Only military customers of China weapons are Pakistan North Korea Tanzania Nigeria and Myanmar.

All of these are harmless countries.

 

[Lulldapull]

MacArthur: Why didn't you become my Chief of Staff at that time?

Japan got nuked twice!.......you were next in 1952........thank god sanity prevailed.

 

[Jiangnan]

Dude, all your economy tied into the western capitalist corporate system. Just like da hendu too no?

Yous both trying yer level best in suckin up.

Its been so long too no?

of course. We are the G-2 Alliance. Same level allies. We can rely on each other or be instantly separated. Always according to our political demands.

and you?

You're just a dish on the table. Why discuss the person who takes utensils?

 

[Saif]

Its also a toady because the west allows it access to proprietary technology upon western decisions.

West has imposed sanction on China so that they cannot acquire sensitive Western technology. Germany has even refused to sell Submarine engine to China.

 

[Jiangnan]

China refuses to deal with Iran outta fear of da west.

Only military customers of China weapons are Pakistan North Korea Tanzania Nigeria and Myanmar.

All of these are harmless countries.

That's for sure. That's why the US, UK, and Ukraine are buying Chinese robot dogs.

 

[Jiangnan]

Japan got nuked twice!.......you were next in 1952........thank god sanity prevailed.

MacArthur: I knew it. Not having you is my biggest loss.

 

[Jiangnan]

West has imposed sanction on China so that they cannot acquire sensitive Western technology. Germany has even refused to sell Submarine engine to China.

Just because Thailand requires the use of German submarine engines. China doesn't need it.

 

[Lulldapull]

of course. We are the G-2 Alliance. Same level allies. We can rely on each other or be instantly separated. Always according to our political demands.

and you?

You're just a dish on the table. Why discuss the person who takes utensils?

You show us proof of Chinese weaponry beating US weaponry, like how Iran beats western weaponry every god damn day......and we'll shut up bro.......

No hard feelings right?

 

[Jiangnan]

You show us proof of Chinese weaponry beating US weaponry, like how Iran beats western weaponry every god damn day......and we'll shut up bro.......

No hard feelings right?

A dish fantasizes about a G-2 civil war.

 

[Lulldapull]

A dish fantasizes about a G-2 civil war.

Why fantasize? its true no?......you show me what weapon China's provided anyone that's beaten a western weapon or system no?

Iran's doing this daily no?.......breaching Iron Dome, David Sling and Arrow 1/2/3 and THAAD and PAC-3 and what not no?

If yous got something like Iran does, then we'll respect you too no?

Nothing to be upset about no?

If you can pull this off, what Iran pulls off daily, then we know yous can do it too no?

 

[Jiangnan]

Why fantasize? its true no?......you show me what weapon China's provided anyone that's beaten a western weapon or system no?

Iran's doing this daily no?.......breaching Iron Dome, David Sling and Arrow 1/2/3 and THAAD and PAC-3 and what not no?

If yous got something like Iran does, then we'll respect you too no?

Nothing to be upset about no?

If you can pull this off, what Iran pulls off daily, then we know yous can do it too no?

You forgot about the Houthis. They almost sank a US aircraft carrier.

What makes you admire Iran so much? Just because they can be bombed by Israel?

Tell me how much you know about modern military technology? For example, the navigation system of Iranian missiles?

 

[Sharma Ji]

You forgot about the Houthis. They almost sank a US aircraft carrier.

What makes you admire Iran so much? Just because they can be bombed by Israel?

Tell me how much you know about modern military technology? For example, the navigation system of Iranian missiles?

I think he means Chinese weapons/missiles etc are not battle proven whereas Iran has demonstrated that capability with hitting Israel as well as supplying Russia with drones.. effective in combat.

Even India vs Pak Feb 19 skirmish, it was US F16s who downed the Indian Mig.

 

[Jiangnan]

Why fantasize? its true no?......you show me what weapon China's provided anyone that's beaten a western weapon or system no?

Iran's doing this daily no?.......breaching Iron Dome, David Sling and Arrow 1/2/3 and THAAD and PAC-3 and what not no?

If yous got something like Iran does, then we'll respect you too no?

Nothing to be upset about no?

If you can pull this off, what Iran pulls off daily, then we know yous can do it too no?

I've heard that as long as China - US turn off their satellite navigation systems at the same time. Missiles of all countries will be blinded.

It's true? @Bilal9

@Lulldapull Tell me. When losing the Beidou satellite navigation system. Iran, which you adore the most, how does it continue to fight? How do you sit at home and type on your keyboard.

 

[Jiangnan]

I think he means Chinese weapons/missiles etc are not battle proven whereas Iran has demonstrated that capability with hitting Israel as well as supplying Russia with drones.. effective in combat.

Even India vs Pak Feb 19 skirmish, it was US F16s who downed the Indian Mig.

Iran's drone technology comes from China. Iran's missiles rely on China's satellite navigation system.... Then he boasted to me about Iran's military technology...

 

[Dogun18]

Iran's drone technology comes from China. Iran's missiles rely on China's satellite navigation system.... Then he boasted to me about Iran's military technology...

@Lulldapull You need to stop overestimating Iran.

 

[Lulldapull]

I've heard that as long as China - US turn off their satellite navigation systems at the same time. Missiles of all countries will be blinded.

It's true? @Bilal9

@Lulldapull Tell me. When losing the Beidou satellite navigation system. Iran, which you adore the most, how does it continue to fight? How do you sit at home and type on your keyboard.

Iran has access to Glonas and will soon have access to its own GPS constellation.

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran's drone technology comes from China. Iran's missiles rely on China's satellite navigation system.... Then he boasted to me about Iran's military technology...

Bro, which drone or missile technology China has sold Iran?

China will not sell anything to Iran without US permission no?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Lullda bhai's fanboyism aside, Iran have done well, spl considering the sanctions and restrictions. They doing their own Juche to the extent possible, and it is a smart population, they are not dumb like the A-rabs who don't make anything, too lazy or lack of skills and brain, whatever the case may be.

 

[Sharma Ji]

but then they also reetarded to show the world their Qaher-313 or whatever

 

[Lulldapull]

Lullda bhai's fanboyism aside, Iran have done well, spl considering the sanctions and restrictions. They doing their own Juche to the extent possible, and it is a smart population, they are not dumb like the A-rabs who don't make anything, too lazy or lack of skills and brain, whatever the case may be.

China is only allowed to buy discounted Iranian crude and sell dollar shop trinkets, appliances/ walmart consumer goods and sometimes cars/ trucks/ cell phones to Iran.

That's all China is allowed to do wrt Iran. Anything above that requires written US approval bhai.

 

[Sharma Ji]

China is only allowed to buy discounted Iranian crude and sell dollar shop trinkets, appliances/ walmart consumer goods and sometimes cars/ trucks/ cell phones to Iran.

That's all China is allowed to do wrt Iran. Anything above that requires written US approval bhai.

Officially, yes.. and they are party to those sanctions.

Baaki, behind the scenes/under the table kya kya hota hai, we dont know.

 

[Lulldapull]

We are all keenly aware here on the magnitude of Russian losses in Ukraine and the stupendous numbers of Russian military casualties. Its on a scale not seen since WW2.

So gents, lets be sensible here......An untested middle power like China will get absolutely devastated if it ever faced NATO or the US or even if it faces India backed up by the west.

I believe that the Ukraine war has brought a lot of people to their senses, specially colored people recently on the gravity and reality of their situation. And just what a bunch of fools they were thinking that their military's can fight off the west......lol

 

[Sharma Ji]

We are all keenly aware here on the magnitude of Russian losses in Ukraine and the stupendous numbers of Russian military casualties. Its on a scale not seen since WW2.

So gents, lets be sensible here......An untested middle power like China will get absolutely devastated if it ever faced NATO or the US or even if it faces India backed up by the west.

I believe that the Ukraine war has brought a lot of people to their senses, specially colored people recently on the gravity and reality of their situation. And just what a bunch of fools they were thinking that their military's can fight off the west......lol

Ye toh hai, westy sapport to Ukies caused a lot of Russian losses, in theor own backyard. The Russians used to be touted as some kind of invincibles when it came to armoured and tank warfare on the plains.