[🇧🇩] Indo-Bangla Relation: India's Regional Ambition, Geopolitical Reality, and Strategic Options For Bangladesh

[Bilal9]

Then why Bangladeshis were not going there prior to they used to come to India for medical treatment. Secondly, do not say that they are more educated than Indian doctors. No other doctors in general are more educated than Indian doctors. Here the syllabus which is taught in Graduation is taught in post-graduation elsewhere. This is true for any other discipline.

Indian doctors get trained in Bangladesh in droves. Then they go back to India for the qualification exams and pass with flying colors. There are many tens of thousands of Indian kids studying MBBS in Bangladesh.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Indian doctors get trained in Bangladesh in droves. Then they go back to India for the qualification exams and pass with flying colors. There are many tens of thousands of Indian kids studying MBBS in Bangladesh.

All those who does not qualify for any good engineering or medial institute goes abroad for MBBS study. Many of them settles there if country is good. Those who comes back has no reputation and people see and treat them as inferior doctors. Who goes abroad like Ukrein, Russia, China are our rejected maal. Those who are not qualified here shines in other country. That is the difference between our education and education of others. If BD has a level to provide education to Indian students, why BD people come here for even small treatment to India? Recognize the reality. There is no point in arguing when you are on slippery ground.

 

[Bilal9]

All those who does not qualify for any good engineering or medial institute goes abroad for MBBS study. Many of them settles there if country is good. Those who comes back has no reputation and people see and treat them as inferior doctors. Who goes abroad like Ukrein, Russia, China are our rejected maal. Those who are not qualified here shines in other country. That is the difference between our education and education of others. If BD has a level to provide education to Indian students, why BD people come here for even small treatment to India? Recognize the reality. There is no point in arguing when you are on slippery ground.

I don't think higher "talent" of Indian doctors was the draw for Bangladeshis to go to Indian clinics or hospitals. I don't believe for one second that specific Indian doctors are better talented than specific Bangladeshi doctors. It's hilarious logic.

The main driver for that scenario was "economical treatment", medical fees in India are half or in some cases one-third that of Bangladesh. Plain and simple.

If Indians see medical fees in Bangladesh, they will have a heart attack again. Medical treatment in Bangladesh is out of reach for most people in India.

Bangladeshi urban hospitals in first tier cities are no worse equipped than Indian equivalent hospitals. Everyone knows this as well. I speak with my doctor friends all the time. They told me even your AIIMS standards are not anything to write home about - and that supposedly is the best hospital in Delhi of national repute.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

We are all in the same boat development wise.

Things are easier to do in Bangladesh because the scale is much smaller.

We are fifth largest economy and set to become third in couple of years, we are set to become No 2 consumer market in next 5 years, we are fastest growing major economy, we are skilled manpower reservoir, we are hub of pharmaceuticals, we are CEO factory of world, we are fourth most powerful Military power against what from your side? At the most Textiles. Anything else?

 

[Bilal9]

We are fifth largest economy and set to become third in couple of years, we are set to become No 2 consumer market in next 5 years, we are fastest growing major economy, we are skilled manpower reservoir, we are hub of pharmaceuticals, we are CEO factory of world, we are fourth most powerful Military power against what from your side? At the most Textiles. Anything else?

LOL. Boasting about this BS does not work anymore Mr. Modi-ka-chela.

You are also poorer in income and worse than Bangladesh in GDP per capita with the world's unhealthiest unhygienic and hungriest population. Bottom tier position. Is this something to take pride in ?? We don't.

It is a shame that you have to compare yourself to Bangladesh which used to be bottomless basket, and cannot even compare your economy and GDP to China which is closest to your size.

India Ranks 105th In Global Hunger Index 2024, Labelled As 'Serious'

The Global Hunger Index (GHI), a tool utilized by international humanitarian organizations to measure and track hunger levels.

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What good is having fourth largest military when people cannot eat or find toilets to poop in?

Think.

Wrong, wronger, wrongest priorities.

Last time Covid happened in India, people were dying by the millions in the streets - they could not even get on an auto, much less find treatment, doctors or vaccines.

How soon we forget.

You can't just ignore basic reality and show one-sided picture of one or two factors or sectors.

Sounds kind of harsh but one has to point these things out when you start to boast.

Being No. 2 consumer market is worthless when divvied up among 1.4 Billion people.

Already there are signs (which Modi media tried so hard to repress) that family incomes and spending are headed for oblivion in India.

We are in a way happy in Bangladesh that India deserves a place of repute globally. After all we are all desis.

But boasting about 2nd, 3rd and 4th place in this or that is a bad Hindutva habit which makes India the laughing stock and subjects of derision in this world, with educated folks.

When you are already at bottom, there is no place to go but up.

The time for this kind of idle boast has come and gone. Everyone knows about what and where India was and is.

Trying to get respect or validation for this or that from non-Indians is a laughable trait.

Those who will respect India by knowing about it (myself included) don't have to be forced to do so.

Brother @Jiangnan how do Chinese people see the boasts our friend which he made above?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I don't think higher "talent" of Indian doctors was the draw for Bangladeshis to go to Indian clinics or hospitals. I don't believe for one second that specific Indian doctors are better talented than specific Bangladeshi doctors. It's hilarious logic.

The main driver for that scenario was "economical treatment", medical fees in India are half or in some cases one-third that of Bangladesh. Plain and simple.

If Indians see medical fees in Bangladesh, they will have a heart attack again. Medical treatment in Bangladesh is out of reach for most people in India.

Bangladeshi urban hospitals in first tier cities are no worse equipped than Indian equivalent hospitals. Everyone knows this as well.

Thats is what I say. Batter skilled doctors and yet economical treatment. If fact, let me say you that what you and whole world call it a batter treatment in India is infect third class treatment which is outdated. Many incurable diseases are treated in India without operation or any so called modern medicine.

Let me give you some examples. Recently, one of my friend was hospitalized and was in the condition of multi organ failure. His heart pumping was very low, liver was not functioning well, kidney was not function well and creatinine level was above 7 and he was on dialysis. He was admitted to one of the top hospital of Vadodara.

On advice of some friend, his brother took him to an Ayurvedic hospital in small city of Nadiad. With Naturopathic treatment and ayurvedic treatment, his health started improving. He is discharged from that hospital and till date no dialysis is required. When I went to see him in Nadiad (A town of Gujarat), I was amazed to see that whole first floor of hospital was booked by Germans. They had come in group and had booked all personal rooms. Only shared rooms were available for others patients. In the places like Patanjali, heart, diabetes and cancer patients are treated successfully in a fraction of cost.

In our regular medial check up of company, my sugar level was reported high. I went to an Ayurvedic doctor in Amadavad. He gave me medicine. Its charge was Rs 400 per month. I took it for 4 to 5 months. Never subsequent to that, my sugar has come high in any report.

In 2019 October in a medical check up in my company, my heart pumping found to be only 20 to 25%. I got it checked twice. Doctor adviced me to get Angiography done on urgent basis. I did not do that and went to an Ayurvedic doctor in Gandhinagar. My heart pumping improved by 10% in just one month. However, in corona times, i could not go to see doctor and it again went down to 20 to 25%. Subsequent to that, one of my friends advised me to do a Pranayam (Kumbhak) course. I did that. Withing 6 months, it improved to 45 % and in last medical check up, it rose to 62%. This sort of therapies are available in India.

One of my friend had slip disk issue and he was hospitalized for 5 days. he was advised operation. I took to a tribal guy in Dang. He pressed his spine and cure him in few seconds. These sorts of therapies are available in India against which most modern therapies of world sucks. You are not aware of India's medical treatments. Some incurable diseases like cancer and paralysis are treated in remote tribal areas of India at a fraction of cost. You have no idea of India's potential in Medical sector. What you consider is just an outdated so called moder medical treatment.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

LOL. Boasting about this BS does not work anymore Mr. Modi-ka-chela.

You are also poorer in income and worse than Bangladesh in GDP per capita with the world's unhealthiest unhygienic and hungriest population. Bottom tier position. Is this something to take pride in ?? We don't.

It is a shame that you have to compare yourself to Bangladesh which used to be bottomless basket, and cannot even compare your economy and GDP to China.

India Ranks 105th In Global Hunger Index 2024, Labelled As 'Serious'

The Global Hunger Index (GHI), a tool utilized by international humanitarian organizations to measure and track hunger levels.

www.newsx.com

What good is having fourth largest military when people cannot eat or find toilets to poop in?

Think.

Wrong, wronger, wrongest priorities.

You can't just ignore basic reality and show one-sided picture of one or two factors or sectors.

Sounds kind of harsh but one has to point these things out when you start to boast.

Being No. 2 consumer market is worthless when divvied up among 1.4 Billion people.

Already there are signs (which Modi media tried so hard to repress) that family incomes and spending are headed for oblivion in India.

We are in a way happy in Bangladesh that India deserves a place of repute globally. After all we are all desis.

But boasting about 2nd, 3rd and 4th place in this or that is a bad Hindutva habit which makes India the laughing stock and subjects of derision in this world, with educated folks.

The time for this kind of idle boast has come and gone. Everyone knows about what and where India was and is.

Trying to get respect or validation for this or that from non-Indians is a laughable trait.

Those who will respect India don't have to be forced to do so.

Boasting is something which when you import rice from a country and call that that country faces hunger poverty. Let me post herewith the report of most reliable source of economic condition. That is none other than IMF. read here and decide whether I am boasting or you are boasting.

India has almost wiped out extreme poverty: International Monetary Fund​

ByZia Haq
Apr 07, 2022 05:40 PM IST

In India, the number of people living in extreme poverty -- defined by the World Bank as living on US$1.9 or less in purchasing power parity (PPP) terms -- was 0.8% of the population in the pre-pandemic year 2019, stated the IMF paper, published on April 5, 2022.​

New Delhi: India has almost eradicated extreme poverty and brought down consumption inequality to its lowest levels in 40 years through state-provided food handouts, according to a new working paper published by the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

India has almost wiped out extreme poverty, says IMF(REUTERS)


The IMF working paper -- authored by economists Surjit Bhalla, Arvind Virmani and Karan Bhasin -- said that the proportion of people living in extreme poverty, at less than 1%, remained steady even during the pandemic on the back of “in-kind” subsidies, especially food rations.

The study comes at a time when several recent global reports have pointed to the widening gap between the rich and poor in Asia’s third-largest economy, while studies on the economic shocks of the Covid-19 pandemic vary in their conclusions.

In India, the number of people living in extreme poverty -- defined by the World Bank as living on US$1.9 or less in purchasing power parity (PPP) terms -- was 0.8% of the population in the pre-pandemic year 2019, stated the IMF paper, published on April 5, 2022.


Food rations were “instrumental” in ensuring that extreme poverty did not increase and “remained at that low level” in the pandemic year 2020, the study found. PPP is a metric that equalises the buying power of different currencies to make comparisons easy.


“Our results also demonstrate the social safety net provided by the expansion of India’s food subsidy program absorbed a major part of the pandemic shock,” the authors stated. Such back-to-back low poverty rates suggest India has eliminated extreme poverty, they concluded.

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What sets their study apart, according to the authors, is the effect of subsidy adjustments on poverty. The results are “striking”, they said in the working paper. Food handouts curbed poverty by acting like “cash transfers”.

IMF states that its working papers describe research in progress, and are published to elicit comments.

Real (inflation-adjusted) inequality, as measured by the Gini coefficient, which stands at 0.294, is now very close to its lowest level 0.284 observed in 1993-94, the paper stated. The Gini coefficient ranges from 0 to 1, with 0 representing perfect equality and 1 representing perfect inequality.


“The food subsidy is 5kg per person. In terms of a household, that would be about 25 kg a month. Now if you convert that into prices, that would come to about ₹750. This is not an insignificant amount for really poor households,” said Pronab Sen, former chief statistician of India.

“But I cannot imagine ₹750 changing the inequality part of it. Absolute poverty in terms of hunger…yes, but inequality is a different ballgame. ₹750 is just not enough to move the needle on inequality,” Sen added.

Also read: Why IMF praised PM Modi’s food security scheme during pandemic

Most previous studies and measures of poverty and inequality did not account for the role of food handouts, the paper’s authors noted. “These (new) estimates include, for the first time, the effect of in-kind food subsides on poverty and inequality,” the paper stated.


During the first Covid-19 lockdown in 2020, the Modi government launched the Pradhan Mantri Garib Kalyan Ann Yojana (PMGKAY), a programme to distribute a fixed quantity of free foodgrain (5kg per head) to the poor beyond their usual entitlement of 25kg a month of subsidised grains.

Over 800 million beneficiaries under the National Food Security Act are covered by the programme. Last week, the government said it would extend the PMGKAY till September 2022.

A National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) working paper in December last year, too, showed that inequality surprisingly reduced during the pandemic, mainly because incomes of the rich from the services sector had plunged, while farm-sector output was resilient. However, this paper found a spike in extreme poverty during the pandemic.


When India’s economy saw its worst-ever recession of -6.6% in 2020-21, the farm sector grew 3.3%, according to revised official estimates.

The World Inequality Report, released in December last year, said India emerged as the most unequal country with the top 1% of the population holding more than one-fifth of the total national income in 2021.

The richest Indians more than doubled their wealth during the Covid-19 crisis, according to the global Oxfam Davos Report of 2022.

Yet another study by the International food Policy Research Institute scholar Yanyan Liu in 2019 found that the Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee scheme, acting as a conditional cash transfer, had increased welfare and reduced inequality.

Bhalla, one of the authors of the IMF paper, said, “Given that extreme poverty has been eradicated, India should move from $1.9 PPP poverty line to $3.2 poverty line”. This essentially means setting the poverty line high and is significant because it raises the income threshold for determining those below poverty line, and such a move would allow more people to qualify for subsidies.


“Bhalla’s method of using National Accounts Statistics numbers to estimate poverty is not new and he had declared poverty to have become insignificant in India 20 years ago,” said Jawaharlal Nehru University economist Himanshu.

Most economists do not agree with his method, Himanshu said, adding: “That is why we need another round of consumer expenditure survey to ascertain exact trends in poverty and inequality in India.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/india-has-almost-wiped-out-extreme-poverty-imf-101649311909782.html

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Why IMF praised PM Modi’s food security scheme during pandemic​

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Published on Apr 06, 2022 03:06 PM IST

A new study by International Monetary Fund has praised the Pradhan Mantri Garib Kalyan Anna Yojana for keeping extreme poverty levels in check during the pandemic. The latest IMF paper, published on 5 April 2020, found that extreme poverty (less than PPP USD 1.9 per person per day) in India is less than 1 per cent in 2019 and it remained at that level even during the COVID-19 pandemic year 2020. "Prime Minister Narendra Modi's food security scheme has been critical in preventing any increase in extreme poverty levels in India during the COVID-19 pandemic." the report added. Watch this video for more details.​