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Patrol Australia first. Then patrol New Zealand. Then patrol Australia again.
We just want to know. How specialized is the Australian military?
We just want to know. How specialized is the Australian military?
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This is why the Chinese Navy must patrol Australia. Saving the world's innocent children from Australian soldier atrocities!
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What about the China keeping one million Uyghurs put in concentration camps of China and Chinese 5 ft soldiers going to their house to slip with their women to change DNA? What about the disappearance of Uyghurs. That is why China is needed?
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150cm little Indians genocide millions of Sikhs and Muslims.
150cm little Indians support Israel's genocide of 3 million Palestinians.
150cm little Indians support Australia for killing Afghan children.
150cm little Indians Worldwide Assassination of Opposition.
150cm little Indians were severely hungry and malnourished, had no toilets, no running water, all because they had received the retribution of Allah.
This is why the Chinese kill Indians just like...
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Was that taught to you in Xi's reeducation camps?
By the way mao killed 40 million cute Chinese in 4 pest campaign.
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no. This is the knowledge of our human world. Don't you know?
I don't know much about Mao. Because in that period. Mao spent 20 days massacre indian maggots.
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I hope Indian maggots can enjoy their sewer life.
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India and Australia support Israel's genocide of 3 million Palestinian people!
Why Indian Hindutva supporters back Israel on Gaza bombing
As Israel faces criticism for its bombing of Gaza, it has received support from India’s Hindutva supporters.
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India and Australia support Israel's genocide of 3 million Palestinian people!
Why Indian Hindutva supporters back Israel on Gaza bombing
As Israel faces criticism for its bombing of Gaza, it has received support from India’s Hindutva supporters.www.aljazeera.com
Your source says 212 Palestinians killed. You made it to 3 millions. This is the reason why you guys are considered for Pizza delivery boys and anything batter. Reeducation camp education come in picture.
Who are the Uyghurs and why is China being accused of genocide?
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China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang
Backgrounder
A Uyghur man works at his shop in Kashgar in the Xinjiang region. Kevin Frayer/Getty Images
Written By
Lindsay Maizland
Updated
Last updated September 22, 2022 11:30 am (EST)
Summary
The United States and several other foreign governments have described China’s actions in Xinjiang as genocide, while the UN human rights office said that the violations could constitute crimes against humanity. Chinese officials have said that they have not infringed on Uyghurs’ rights and claimed that they closed the reeducation camps in 2019. However, international journalists and researchers have documented an ongoing system of mass detention throughout the region using satellite images, individual testimonies, and leaked Chinese government documents.
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Outside of the camps, the eleven million Uyghurs living in Xinjiang—officially called the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region—have continued to suffer from a decades-long crackdown by Chinese authorities.
Experts estimate that reeducation efforts started in Xinjiang in 2014 and were drastically expanded in 2017. Beginning that year, they documented the construction of new reeducation camps and expansion of existing facilities for mass detention. Reuters journalists, observing satellite imagery, found that thirty-nine of the camps almost tripled in size between April 2017 and August 2018; they covered a total area roughly the size of 140 soccer fields. Similarly, analyzing local and national budgets over the past few years, Germany-based Xinjiang expert Adrian Zenz found that construction spending on security-related facilities in Xinjiang increased by 20 billion yuan (around $2.96 billion) in 2017.
In late 2019, Xinjiang’s governor said that people detained in the reeducation camps had “graduated.” Journalists found that several camps were indeed closed. But the following year, researchers at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) identified [PDF] more than 380 suspected detention facilities using satellite images. They found that China refashioned some lower-security reeducation camps into formal detention centers or prisons; expanded existing detention centers; and constructed new, high-security detention centers throughout Xinjiang. (Chinese officials have said that ASPI is an anti-China tool funded by Australia and the United States.) Instead of detaining people in reeducation camps, authorities have increasingly used the formal justice system to imprison people for years. In 2022, Human Rights Watch reported that half a million people had been prosecuted since 2017, according to Xinjiang government figures. The Associated Press found that in one county, an estimated one in twenty-five people had been sentenced to prison on terrorism-related charges, all of them Uyghurs.
Hundreds of Detention Sites Across Xinjiang
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Backgrounder
China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang
More than a million Muslims have been arbitrarily detained in China’s Xinjiang region. The reeducation camps are just one part of the government’s crackdown on Uyghurs.
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Lindsay Maizland
Updated
Last updated September 22, 2022 11:30 am (EST)
Summary
- About eleven million Uyghurs—a mostly Muslim, Turkic-speaking ethnic group—live in the northwestern region of Xinjiang.
- The Chinese government has imprisoned more than one million people since 2017 and subjected those not detained to intense surveillance, religious restrictions, forced labor, and forced sterilizations.
- The United States determined that China’s actions constitute genocide, while a UN report said they could amount to crimes against humanity.
Introduction
The Chinese government has reportedly arbitrarily detained more than a million Muslims in reeducation camps since 2017. Most of the people who have been detained are Uyghur, a predominantly Turkic-speaking ethnic group primarily in China’s northwestern region of Xinjiang. Beyond the detentions, Uyghurs in the region have been subjected to intense surveillance, forced labor, and involuntary sterilizations, among other rights abuses.The United States and several other foreign governments have described China’s actions in Xinjiang as genocide, while the UN human rights office said that the violations could constitute crimes against humanity. Chinese officials have said that they have not infringed on Uyghurs’ rights and claimed that they closed the reeducation camps in 2019. However, international journalists and researchers have documented an ongoing system of mass detention throughout the region using satellite images, individual testimonies, and leaked Chinese government documents.
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When did mass detentions of Muslims start?
An estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF]. The Chinese government calls the facilities “vocational education and training centers;” the most common terms used by international media organizations and researchers are reeducation camps, internment camps, and detention camps. Some activists describe them as concentration camps.Outside of the camps, the eleven million Uyghurs living in Xinjiang—officially called the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region—have continued to suffer from a decades-long crackdown by Chinese authorities.
Experts estimate that reeducation efforts started in Xinjiang in 2014 and were drastically expanded in 2017. Beginning that year, they documented the construction of new reeducation camps and expansion of existing facilities for mass detention. Reuters journalists, observing satellite imagery, found that thirty-nine of the camps almost tripled in size between April 2017 and August 2018; they covered a total area roughly the size of 140 soccer fields. Similarly, analyzing local and national budgets over the past few years, Germany-based Xinjiang expert Adrian Zenz found that construction spending on security-related facilities in Xinjiang increased by 20 billion yuan (around $2.96 billion) in 2017.
In late 2019, Xinjiang’s governor said that people detained in the reeducation camps had “graduated.” Journalists found that several camps were indeed closed. But the following year, researchers at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) identified [PDF] more than 380 suspected detention facilities using satellite images. They found that China refashioned some lower-security reeducation camps into formal detention centers or prisons; expanded existing detention centers; and constructed new, high-security detention centers throughout Xinjiang. (Chinese officials have said that ASPI is an anti-China tool funded by Australia and the United States.) Instead of detaining people in reeducation camps, authorities have increasingly used the formal justice system to imprison people for years. In 2022, Human Rights Watch reported that half a million people had been prosecuted since 2017, according to Xinjiang government figures. The Associated Press found that in one county, an estimated one in twenty-five people had been sentenced to prison on terrorism-related charges, all of them Uyghurs.
Hundreds of Detention Sites Across Xinjiang
China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang
More than a million Muslims have been arbitrarily detained in China’s Xinjiang region. The reeducation camps are just one part of the government’s crackdown on Uyghurs.
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emmm..... So why does India support Israel's genocide against Palestine?China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang
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China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang
More than a million Muslims have been arbitrarily detained in China’s Xinjiang region. The reeducation camps are just one part of the government’s crackdown on Uyghurs.
A Uyghur man works at his shop in Kashgar in the Xinjiang region. Kevin Frayer/Getty Images
Written By
Lindsay Maizland
Updated
Last updated September 22, 2022 11:30 am (EST)
Summary
- About eleven million Uyghurs—a mostly Muslim, Turkic-speaking ethnic group—live in the northwestern region of Xinjiang.
- The Chinese government has imprisoned more than one million people since 2017 and subjected those not detained to intense surveillance, religious restrictions, forced labor, and forced sterilizations.
- The United States determined that China’s actions constitute genocide, while a UN report said they could amount to crimes against humanity.
Introduction
The Chinese government has reportedly arbitrarily detained more than a million Muslims in reeducation camps since 2017. Most of the people who have been detained are Uyghur, a predominantly Turkic-speaking ethnic group primarily in China’s northwestern region of Xinjiang. Beyond the detentions, Uyghurs in the region have been subjected to intense surveillance, forced labor, and involuntary sterilizations, among other rights abuses.
The United States and several other foreign governments have described China’s actions in Xinjiang as genocide, while the UN human rights office said that the violations could constitute crimes against humanity. Chinese officials have said that they have not infringed on Uyghurs’ rights and claimed that they closed the reeducation camps in 2019. However, international journalists and researchers have documented an ongoing system of mass detention throughout the region using satellite images, individual testimonies, and leaked Chinese government documents.
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Religion in China
by CFR.org Editors
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by Liana Fix and Caroline Kapp
When did mass detentions of Muslims start?
An estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF]. The Chinese government calls the facilities “vocational education and training centers;” the most common terms used by international media organizations and researchers are reeducation camps, internment camps, and detention camps. Some activists describe them as concentration camps.
Outside of the camps, the eleven million Uyghurs living in Xinjiang—officially called the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region—have continued to suffer from a decades-long crackdown by Chinese authorities.
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Experts estimate that reeducation efforts started in Xinjiang in 2014 and were drastically expanded in 2017. Beginning that year, they documented the construction of new reeducation camps and expansion of existing facilities for mass detention. Reuters journalists, observing satellite imagery, found that thirty-nine of the camps almost tripled in size between April 2017 and August 2018; they covered a total area roughly the size of 140 soccer fields. Similarly, analyzing local and national budgets over the past few years, Germany-based Xinjiang expert Adrian Zenz found that construction spending on security-related facilities in Xinjiang increased by 20 billion yuan (around $2.96 billion) in 2017.
In late 2019, Xinjiang’s governor said that people detained in the reeducation camps had “graduated.” Journalists found that several camps were indeed closed. But the following year, researchers at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) identified [PDF] more than 380 suspected detention facilities using satellite images. They found that China refashioned some lower-security reeducation camps into formal detention centers or prisons; expanded existing detention centers; and constructed new, high-security detention centers throughout Xinjiang. (Chinese officials have said that ASPI is an anti-China tool funded by Australia and the United States.) Instead of detaining people in reeducation camps, authorities have increasingly used the formal justice system to imprison people for years. In 2022, Human Rights Watch reported that half a million people had been prosecuted since 2017, according to Xinjiang government figures. The Associated Press found that in one county, an estimated one in twenty-five people had been sentenced to prison on terrorism-related charges, all of them Uyghurs.
Hundreds of Detention Sites Across Xinjiang
China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang
More than a million Muslims have been arbitrarily detained in China’s Xinjiang region. The reeducation camps are just one part of the government’s crackdown on Uyghurs.
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last. Why do Uyghurs support the genocide actions of Israel and India?
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We humans believe. Israel has besieged 3 million Palestinian people in Gaza. Cut off the water and electricity supply to these 3 million Palestinian people. And they indiscriminately bombed the hospitals and schools of these 3 million Palestinian people. This is a genocide of 3 million people.... Considering that Israel is a role model for Uyghurs. You should indeed receive re education.
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Mass Detention
China has created a large system of arbitrary detention and enforced disappearance. Approximately one million Uyghurs have been imprisoned in detention centers, for reasons as simple as practicing their religion, having international contacts or communications, or attending a western university. The Chinese government has defended the camps as “vocational training centers” aimed at combating violent extremism. Leaked government documents reveal that the state is in fact targeting people based on religious observance, such as praying or growing a beard, as well as family background.
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What Israel has done outside Israel, your rulers do it in your country? Who killed 40 million Chinese in 4 pest campaign.
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When China burns Muslims like India. then. Let's talk about the persecution of Uyghurs who support Israel.
Expert warns of impending ‘genocide’ of Muslims in India
Gregory Stanton, who founded the Genocide Watch group, is sounding the alarm on violence against Muslims in India.
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The West has the right to freely edit numbers. But Mao is better at cleaning Indian maggots.
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The West has the right to freely edit numbers. But Mao is better at cleaning Indian maggots.
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China responsible for ‘serious human rights violations’ in Xinjiang province: UN human rights report
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High Commissioner Michelle Bachelet during her visit to China, in Ürümqi, Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, China.
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A long-awaited report by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) into what China refers to as the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) has concluded that “serious human rights violations” against the Uyghur and “other predominantly Muslim communities” have been committed.
The report published on Wednesday in the wake of the visit by UN High Commissioner of Human Rights, Michelle Bachelet in May, said that “allegations of patterns of torture, or ill-treatment, including forced medical treatment and adverse conditions of detention, are credible, as are allegations of individual incidents of sexual and gender-based violence.”
In a strongly-worded assessment at the end of the report, OHCHR said that the extent of arbitrary detentions against Uyghur and others, in context of “restrictions and deprivation more generally of fundamental rights, enjoyed individually and collectively, may constitute international crimes, in particular crimes against humanity.”
‘Rigorous review’
The UN rights office said that Wednesday’s report was “based on a rigorous review of documentary material currently available to the Office, with its credibility assessed in accordance with standard human rights methodology.“Particular attention was given to the Government’s own laws, policies, data and statements. The Office also requested information and engaged in dialogue and technical exchanges with China throughout the process.”
Published on Ms. Bachelet’s final day of her four-year term in office, the report says that the violations have taken place in the context of the Chinese Government’s assertion that it is targeting terrorists among the Uyghur minority with a counter-extremism strategy that involves the use of so-called Vocational Educational and Training Centres (VETCs), or re-education camps.
'Interlocking patterns'
OHCHR said that the Government policy in recent years in Xinjiang has “led to interlocking patterns of severe and undue restrictions on a wide range of human rights.”Even if the VETC system has as China says, “been reduced in scope or wound up”, said OHCHR, “the laws and policies that underpin it remain in place”, leading to an increased use of imprisonment.
The systems of arbitrary detention and related patterns of abuse since 2017, said OHCHR, “come against the backdrop of broader discrimination” against Uyghur and other minorities.
Violations of international law
“This has included far-reaching, arbitrary and discriminatory restrictions on human rights and fundamental freedoms, in violation of international laws and standards”, including restrictions on religious freedom and the rights to privacy and movement.Furthermore, the report said that Chinese Government policies in the region have “transcended borders”, separating families, “severing” contacts, producing “patterns of intimidations and threats” against the wider Uyghur diaspora who have spoken out about conditions at home.
OHCHR said that the Chinese Government “holds the primary duty to ensure that all laws and policies are brought into compliance with international human rights law and to promptly investigate any allegations of human rights violations, to ensure accountability for perpetrators, and to provide redress to victims.”
Report recommendations
Among the recommendations that the UN rights office makes in the report, is for the Government to take “prompt steps” to release all individuals arbitrarily imprisoned in XUAR, whether in camps or any other detention centre.China should let families know the whereabouts of any individuals who have been detained, providing exact locations, and help to establish “safe channels of communication” and allow families to reunite, said the report.
The report calls on China to undertake a full legal review of its national security and counter-terrorism policies in XUAR, “to ensure their full compliance with binding international human rights law” and repeal any laws that fall short of international standards.
It also calls for a prompt Government investigation into allegations of human rights violations in camps and other detention facilities, “including allegations of torture, sexual violence, ill-treatment, forced medical treatment, as well as forced labour and reports of deaths in custody.”
Chinese rebuttal
In a long and detailed response published along with the hard-hitting report, the Chinese Government said in conclusion, that authorities in the Xinjiang region operate on the principle that everyone is equal before the law, “and the accusation that its policy is ‘based on discrimination’ is groundless.”China said that its counter-terrorism and “de-radicalization efforts” in the region, had been conducted according to “the rule of law” and by no means add up to “suppression of ethnic minorities.”
On the issue of the camps, Beijing responded that the VETCs are “learning facilities established in accordance with law intended for de-radicalization” and not “concentration camps”.
No ‘massive violation of rights’
“The lawful rights and interests of workers of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang are protected and there is no such thing as ‘forced labour’”, China’s statement said, adding that there had been no “massive violation of rights”.The statement calls on the international community to be “clear-eyed about the truth” of its counter-terrorism campaign in the region, and “see through the clumsy performances and malicious motives of anti-China forces in the US and the West, who attempt to use Xinjiang to contain China.”
It calls instead, for the UN and other international organizations, to investigate “the human rights disasters caused, and numerous crimes committed, by the US and some other Western countries, both at home and abroad.”
Bachelet's May mission
The human rights chief undertook her mission in May, at the invitation of the Chinese Government and visited XUAR to review the situation there.During her mission, Ms. Bachelet spoke with a range of government officials, several civil society organisations, academics, and community and religious leaders. In addition, she met several organizations online ahead of the visit, on issues relating to Xinjiang province, Tibet, Hong Kong, and other parts of China.
At the end of her visit, while expressing concern over issues relating to Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, human rights defenders and labour rights, she praised China’s “tremendous achievements” in alleviating poverty, and eradicating extreme poverty, 10 years ahead of its target date.
A number of other developments in the country were welcomed by Ms. Bachelet, including legislation that improves protection for women’s rights, and work being done by NGOs to advance the rights of LGBTI people, people with disabilities, and older people.
The UN rights chief underscored the important role that China has to play, at a regional and multilateral level, and noted that everyone she met on her visit, from Government officials, civil society, academics, diplomats and others, demonstrated a sincere willingness to make progress on the promotion and protection of human rights for all.
Guterres underscores independence of human rights office
In response to questions from correspondents at the regular Noon briefing in New York on Thursday, UN Spokesperson Stéphane Dujarric, said Secretary-General António Guterres had read the OHCHR assessment, which “clearly identifies serious human rights violations in the Xinjiang region of China.”Mr. Dujarric said the Secretary-General “very much hopes that the Government of China will take on board the recommendations put forward in the assessment”, while also noting that the report “also underscores the importance of the independence” of OHCHR.
In response to a question over what this spelt for future relations, Mr. Dujarric said the Secretary-General “values the system-wide cooperation between China and the United Nations on a whole host of issues. China is a very valuable partner, and we very much hope that that cooperation will continue,” and urged it was “important for everyone to see the Chinese response” to the detailed report.
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Tweet Facebook Print LinkedIn WhatsApp Telegram Reddit RepublishEast Turkestan — or Xinjiang, as it is known in Chinese — is a border region where ethnic minorities are subjected to the Chinese regime’s stifling repression.
Subjected to arbitrary arrests and forced labor, sterilizations to torture, more than one million Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, and other minorities are estimated to have been locked up in so-called “re-education” camps and prisons in the region over the last decade, according to the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.
While China contends it is fighting ‘terrorists,’ to others it seems the objective is to annihilate any cultural and religious particularism which could be seen as an impediment to the ethnic purity component of the “Chinese dream.”
The United Nations has warned that what is happening in the region may amount to “crimes against humanity,” while others, including the US State Department, have gone further, labeling it a genocide in 2021, especially due to measures intended to reduce the number of children being born.
This repression is not confined to China, but takes on a transnational dimension: even beyond the country’s borders, Beijing persecutes those who have been designated as its political opponents. In Central Asia, the former Soviet republics, heavily economically dependent on their Eastern neighbor, are home to a pervasive interference that extends the repression.
China has built hundreds of detention centers in its Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region along the eastern frontiers of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, making those countries a common landing spot for refugees fleeing Chinese repression. Image: Screenshot, The Xinjiang Data Project, Australian Strategic Policy Institute
Winter Trip
In the winter of 2023, I decided to go to Kazakhstan to document what was happening to survivors of the camps who had fled across the border. I went with my photojournalist colleague Robin Tutenges, and the support of Slate France, an online current affairs magazine. As Chinese territory itself would be impossible to access for an independent investigation into the subject, we needed to shift our attention to where many survivors were living in exile.While much of the reporting on the camps is being done remotely — and focuses on the crimes committed against the predominant Uyghur population — it is still vital to go in the field, and to remember that this repression affects a number of minority groups across the region.
Ethnic Kazakhs — who have Chinese citizenship — are the second most impacted group by population, yet their hardships remain largely overlooked by both the international community and their own country.
We found that the region between China and Kazakhstan had become a border of tears, where many families mourn the loved ones who have never returned from the Chinese camps, and where the survivors of the camps who managed to make it across the border have carried with them the trauma of the experience.
The fieldwork and investigation were incredibly complicated since on-the-ground access remains extremely complex due to the close surveillance to which many witnesses are still subjected.
Many of them still fear for their lives, under the threat of another deportation. In fact, leaving the camps is rarely a liberation, but often the beginning of a new ordeal. Barely acknowledged as victims, even in some cases by their relatives, survivors must learn to live again, and are expected to return to a daily life where their traumas go unrecognized — and untreated. Kazakh authorities, bound to China through strong business partnerships, remain silent, and try to stifle the protests of the few local activists there are.
Our challenge was therefore to trace the story of this violence — and its evolution — by weaving individual portraits and testimonies with a geopolitical analysis of regional power balances. The fieldwork and investigation were incredibly complicated since on-the-ground access remains extremely complex due to the close surveillance to which many witnesses are still subjected. That same surveillance also puts them in great jeopardy.
Protecting Vulnerable Sources
This investigation, first published on Slate.fr as a text-photo series, almost didn’t get published. The main reason: the accessibility of the sources. Because the repression in Xinjiang is still ongoing, a single wrong word can lead to deportation, imprisonment, or death for witnesses and their relatives if they are identified by Chinese or Kazakh intelligence.In those conditions, most survivors are terrified to be acknowledged as such, and not likely to speak to journalists. Building a network of contacts within persecuted communities therefore requires a great deal of time, caution, and trust.
My colleague and I were already well anchored in various diasporas originating from East Turkestan — and this ultimately enabled us to find survivors.
We took time to assemble different networks of local and international researchers, activists, human rights defenders, and artists. The difficult part is unlocking the primary contact who will allow you to unlock another one, and another, and so on.
One of our most valuable resources was Atajurt Partiasy, an organization that has strong local roots and has helped many family members in their efforts to demand the release of their relatives. As such, Atajurt had already collected numerous testimonies from survivors.
But with investigations like these, security has to be a top priority. Most of the people who testified in this series of reports did so under full anonymity, because they often still had family members living in China who might be incarcerated if any unsolicited attention came to them, or they had family members already in camps or prison, who might never be released. The very few who agreed to speak openly did so because their family had already left China or they were desperately hoping that, by making their story public, they might help their loved ones, as media attention has, paradoxically, sometimes led to the release of prisoners.
An elderly Uyghur man and woman walk along a street in Yarkant near Kashgar in China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region. Many Uyghur refugees refuse to publicly speak out about their detention for fear of government repercussions for their relatives still in China. Image: Shutterstock
Our responsibility, then, was to find the right balance in what we could, and could not, reveal to ensure their safety, while knowing that we could never predict the Chinese government’s arbitrariness.
Each piece of sensitive information was discussed with interviewees, and we sometimes published less than they would have liked, considering that some sources might not necessarily be fully aware of the ramifications if things took a turn for the worse.
As Chinese and Kazakh intelligence agencies are extremely efficient, we had to take the usual precautions, encrypting all our devices and keeping as little information on us as possible, in case the authorities intervened. This meant not recording witnesses’ locations on maps, nor their contact details. Instead, we hid sensitive information on a single random piece of paper — very poorly written, and in approximative French — which could not be hacked. We also made sure our cellphones were always using VPN or airplane mode, never kept compromising photos, and always had some sightseeing-like footage saved just in case, while we’d also prepared our best dazed-tourist face for any interaction with authorities.
My job is not to force victims to talk about their traumas… My work is about gathering facts and making sense of them in a vivid story.
When it came to conducting interviews, I always told witnesses at the very beginning that if they felt uncomfortable with a question, they could just skip it and we would move on to something else or take a break. Above all, in our interviews we strived to not re-traumatize the victims.
I usually like to start and finish each interview with open-ended questions, which give witnesses space to broach the most sensitive or important subjects for them, without drawing attention to what I might imagine to be the worst part of their story. As far as scenes of torture are concerned, and there were many in this investigation, I usually waited for witnesses to mention them on their own before engaging on the subject, and asked them more about their feelings, fears and memories, than about the corpography of physical abuse, which is a way of returning agency to those who have been hurt.
Naturally, some people don’t spontaneously address these subjects. In this case, I asked if they had witnessed or heard about different types of violence that I listed, which could help us to approach the issue from a different angle, leaving the door open for them. Sexual violence is obviously the trickiest subject to raise. I strongly suspect that, in several cases, the survivors I’d spoken to had been victims of sexual violence, but were unable to talk about it, for various reasons — a husband present in the room, too much shame to bear, or the memory is just too painful.
But my job is not to force victims to talk about their traumas. Doctors can report that part to me, as can lawyers or researchers. My work is about gathering facts and making sense of them in a vivid story. I always have to keep in mind that when I leave a victim’s house, they’re left behind with their thoughts, and I have to make sure that these will be as minimally painful as possible.
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The other reason this investigation could have remained a mere wish is money. Funding is what allows stories to be told — but a lack of it often becomes a story killer, especially for freelancers. It took us several months to construct this project, and while a number of outlets expressed interest in the topic, not a single major French newspaper agreed to support it.Ultimately, Slate.fr offered to finance it and gave us a wonderful platform to carry out the investigation, resulting in an eight-part, longread feature series. We conceived it as a narrative, starting with the situation in the Chinese camps, moving across the Kazakh border, and ending in Europe, and more specifically in France, where we turned the focus on the international community’s inaction.
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The series won the Thomson Reuters Foundation’s 2023 Kurt Schork Freelance Award, the 2024 European Press Prize’s Distinguished Award, and was nominated for the 2023 Bayeux Calvados-Normandy Award for War Correspondents.
Strangely enough, several news outlets seemed much more interested afterwards, although of course, that was a little too late. Winning prizes is gratifying, yet it’s not sufficient for freelancers to continue the work started, especially on this type of highly demanding and subject matter terrain, where the outcome can never be guaranteed in advance.
This past winter, we decided to continue the investigation in neighboring Kyrgyzstan, an even more sensitive reporting environment. That journey was marked by many failures, until the Pulitzer Center decided to lend its financial support to this project. Its backing will enable us to publish a new chapter of this long history of China’s transnational repression of the East Turkestan ethnic minorities.
‘Border of Tears’: Interviewing Victims of China’s Xinjiang Prison Camps
This award-winning investigation into Xinjiang internment camp survivors was nearly silenced. Here are some lessons learned about keeping vulnerable sources safe and telling their stories.
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ohhh, you are talking about Nathula and Rezang la in which you lost 10 times the soldiers to India and lost even after that.
Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24×7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
Its sad that any time we talk about the India-China war of 1962,horrible words like debacle,disgrace,disaster come to our minds. This is the 50th anniversary of that war. Its a war that this country ideally would love to forget but cannot because its etched in our memories as one of the saddest chapters of our independent history. And its sadder still that because of that overwhelming sense of failure in that war,we tend to sometimes almost deliberately ignore the one chapter that I think is without parallel in modern post Second World War military history,the battle of Rezang La on November 18,1962. I will give you a brief history. Charlie Company of a battalion called 13 Kumaon was divided in several platoons on one ridge of two kilometres,protecting the airfield of Chushul which was vital if India was to hold Ladakh. It was attacked on the morning of November 18 by maybe 5,000-6,000 Chinese with heavy artillery support. A crest behind this ridge prevented Indian artillery from being able to support these jawans. And what did these jawans do? They fought to last man,last round. Thats an expression you hear in movies and read in war comics,but that is something that actually happened in the battle of Rezang La. Of the 120 men and officers of this Company,114 died,five were taken prisoners as woundedthey all escapedand one was sent back to tell the story of the battle to the rest of the world. And who sent him back? This Companys most remarkable commander,Major Shaitan Singh,who got a Param Vir Chakra for leading this battle. I am today in Rewari,the area from where these jawans came… It was a Kumaon battalion but this was an Ahir Company from Rewari in Haryana. With me are two of those six survivorsin fact,only four remain with us nowHonorary captain Ramchander Yadav and Havaldar Nihal Singh. So both of you were with Major Shaitan Singh?
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I'm too lazy to read this nonsense and edit. India must stop the genocide of Sikhs and Muslims. And stop supporting Israel's genocide against Palestine.ohhh, you are talking about Nathula and Rezang la in which you lost 10 times the soldiers to India and lost even after that.
Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24×7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
Its sad that any time we talk about the India-China war of 1962,horrible words like debacle,disgrace,disaster come to our minds. This is the 50th anniversary of that war. Its a war that this country ideally would love to forget but cannot because its etched in our memories as one of the saddest chapters of our independent history. And its sadder still that because of that overwhelming sense of failure in that war,we tend to sometimes almost deliberately ignore the one chapter that I think is without parallel in modern post Second World War military history,the battle of Rezang La on November 18,1962. I will give you a brief history. Charlie Company of a battalion called 13 Kumaon was divided in several platoons on one ridge of two kilometres,protecting the airfield of Chushul which was vital if India was to hold Ladakh. It was attacked on the morning of November 18 by maybe 5,000-6,000 Chinese with heavy artillery support. A crest behind this ridge prevented Indian artillery from being able to support these jawans. And what did these jawans do? They fought to last man,last round. Thats an expression you hear in movies and read in war comics,but that is something that actually happened in the battle of Rezang La. Of the 120 men and officers of this Company,114 died,five were taken prisoners as woundedthey all escapedand one was sent back to tell the story of the battle to the rest of the world. And who sent him back? This Companys most remarkable commander,Major Shaitan Singh,who got a Param Vir Chakra for leading this battle. I am today in Rewari,the area from where these jawans came… It was a Kumaon battalion but this was an Ahir Company from Rewari in Haryana. With me are two of those six survivorsin fact,only four remain with us nowHonorary captain Ramchander Yadav and Havaldar Nihal Singh. So both of you were with Major Shaitan Singh?
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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy...
Genocide of Muslims in India!
India massacre
Recent court ruling finds police unit not guilty of rounding up and executing 42 Muslim men during 1987 communal riots.
If China were to burn, execute, and exterminate Muslims like India. Then let's talk about why Uyghurs support Israel's genocide against Palestine!
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The Indian government is committing genocide against Muslims!ohhh, you are talking about Nathula and Rezang la in which you lost 10 times the soldiers to India and lost even after that.
Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24×7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
Its sad that any time we talk about the India-China war of 1962,horrible words like debacle,disgrace,disaster come to our minds. This is the 50th anniversary of that war. Its a war that this country ideally would love to forget but cannot because its etched in our memories as one of the saddest chapters of our independent history. And its sadder still that because of that overwhelming sense of failure in that war,we tend to sometimes almost deliberately ignore the one chapter that I think is without parallel in modern post Second World War military history,the battle of Rezang La on November 18,1962. I will give you a brief history. Charlie Company of a battalion called 13 Kumaon was divided in several platoons on one ridge of two kilometres,protecting the airfield of Chushul which was vital if India was to hold Ladakh. It was attacked on the morning of November 18 by maybe 5,000-6,000 Chinese with heavy artillery support. A crest behind this ridge prevented Indian artillery from being able to support these jawans. And what did these jawans do? They fought to last man,last round. Thats an expression you hear in movies and read in war comics,but that is something that actually happened in the battle of Rezang La. Of the 120 men and officers of this Company,114 died,five were taken prisoners as woundedthey all escapedand one was sent back to tell the story of the battle to the rest of the world. And who sent him back? This Companys most remarkable commander,Major Shaitan Singh,who got a Param Vir Chakra for leading this battle. I am today in Rewari,the area from where these jawans came… It was a Kumaon battalion but this was an Ahir Company from Rewari in Haryana. With me are two of those six survivorsin fact,only four remain with us nowHonorary captain Ramchander Yadav and Havaldar Nihal Singh. So both of you were with Major Shaitan Singh?
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Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy...
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Even Iran cannot tolerate India's genocide/massacre of Muslims.ohhh, you are talking about Nathula and Rezang la in which you lost 10 times the soldiers to India and lost even after that.
Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
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October 30, 2012 01:07 IST
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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24×7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
Its sad that any time we talk about the India-China war of 1962,horrible words like debacle,disgrace,disaster come to our minds. This is the 50th anniversary of that war. Its a war that this country ideally would love to forget but cannot because its etched in our memories as one of the saddest chapters of our independent history. And its sadder still that because of that overwhelming sense of failure in that war,we tend to sometimes almost deliberately ignore the one chapter that I think is without parallel in modern post Second World War military history,the battle of Rezang La on November 18,1962. I will give you a brief history. Charlie Company of a battalion called 13 Kumaon was divided in several platoons on one ridge of two kilometres,protecting the airfield of Chushul which was vital if India was to hold Ladakh. It was attacked on the morning of November 18 by maybe 5,000-6,000 Chinese with heavy artillery support. A crest behind this ridge prevented Indian artillery from being able to support these jawans. And what did these jawans do? They fought to last man,last round. Thats an expression you hear in movies and read in war comics,but that is something that actually happened in the battle of Rezang La. Of the 120 men and officers of this Company,114 died,five were taken prisoners as woundedthey all escapedand one was sent back to tell the story of the battle to the rest of the world. And who sent him back? This Companys most remarkable commander,Major Shaitan Singh,who got a Param Vir Chakra for leading this battle. I am today in Rewari,the area from where these jawans came… It was a Kumaon battalion but this was an Ahir Company from Rewari in Haryana. With me are two of those six survivorsin fact,only four remain with us nowHonorary captain Ramchander Yadav and Havaldar Nihal Singh. So both of you were with Major Shaitan Singh?
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Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy...
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India is learning how Israel genocide Muslims!ohhh, you are talking about Nathula and Rezang la in which you lost 10 times the soldiers to India and lost even after that.
Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
Written by Shekhar Gupta
October 30, 2012 01:07 IST
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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24×7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago
Its sad that any time we talk about the India-China war of 1962,horrible words like debacle,disgrace,disaster come to our minds. This is the 50th anniversary of that war. Its a war that this country ideally would love to forget but cannot because its etched in our memories as one of the saddest chapters of our independent history. And its sadder still that because of that overwhelming sense of failure in that war,we tend to sometimes almost deliberately ignore the one chapter that I think is without parallel in modern post Second World War military history,the battle of Rezang La on November 18,1962. I will give you a brief history. Charlie Company of a battalion called 13 Kumaon was divided in several platoons on one ridge of two kilometres,protecting the airfield of Chushul which was vital if India was to hold Ladakh. It was attacked on the morning of November 18 by maybe 5,000-6,000 Chinese with heavy artillery support. A crest behind this ridge prevented Indian artillery from being able to support these jawans. And what did these jawans do? They fought to last man,last round. Thats an expression you hear in movies and read in war comics,but that is something that actually happened in the battle of Rezang La. Of the 120 men and officers of this Company,114 died,five were taken prisoners as woundedthey all escapedand one was sent back to tell the story of the battle to the rest of the world. And who sent him back? This Companys most remarkable commander,Major Shaitan Singh,who got a Param Vir Chakra for leading this battle. I am today in Rewari,the area from where these jawans came… It was a Kumaon battalion but this was an Ahir Company from Rewari in Haryana. With me are two of those six survivorsin fact,only four remain with us nowHonorary captain Ramchander Yadav and Havaldar Nihal Singh. So both of you were with Major Shaitan Singh?
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Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled
The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7,Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh,two of the six soldiers who survived that battle,look back at the events of that icy...
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The state of Assam has become a laboratory of ethnonationalism, with warning signs of genocide ahead.
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Hindu Nationalists Are Taking Notes—and Tech Support—From the Israeli Right
The state of Assam has become a laboratory of ethnonationalism, with warning signs of genocide ahead.
Where is genocide in that? What Israel is doing is fighting with Hamas. It is not Genocide. What Xi does with Uyghurs is genocide. Put them in concentration camp to die.
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Which Mascre of Muslims? He is the one who hangs Sunni Cleric by crane to teach them a lesson. Some time ago, he hanged 13 Sunni cleric by crane. He is learning from Xi. In 7 decades, we have not hanged that many Muslims to date inspite of being worst victim of Islamic Terrorism.
Chinese Mass execution and use of their Organ for selling.
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Q: “Who did you get your kidney from?”
A: “An executed prisoner.”
Over the past several years, I have had several patients answer this question in the same way. They all were young Chinese-Americans recently returned from China with excellent function of their newly transplanted kidneys. Most were vague as to the origin of their newly transplanted organs; some cited “distant relatives” whereas others claimed not to know the source. Recently, however, several patients have given me the above response. I suppose that I should not have been so surprised to get that answer, but I was nonetheless. As I psychologically recoiled, I thought to myself, “What am I going to do here?”
In order to obtain a kidney transplant in the USA, patients with renal failure register at transplant centres and are placed on a waiting list. The more fortunate of these patients have relatives, spouses, or friends who are willing to donate a kidney to enable timelier transplantation. Without such a living donor, the waiting time can be quite long until an appropriate organ becomes available—up to 5–8 years in some parts of the USA and considerably longer in several other parts of the world. Not surprisingly, this can lead to anguish and acts of desperation for those who wait.
Several reports have recently surfaced about several problems with organ transplantation, such as organ trafficking, the sale and brokering of such organs, and the topic of this essay: the transplantation of organs from executed prisoners in China. Unfortunately, these transplantations have become more common because of an unfortunate application to healthcare of one of the laws of economics—supply and demand.
The establishment in 1984 of the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) in the USA, although it helped to organise and centralise a previously haphazard system of organ distribution, has unfortunately failed to change one fundamental problem with transplantation: there are not enough organs to go around. From May 31, 2004, 85 609 people were registered with UNOS as awaiting an organ transplantation. Of these, 58 201 were waiting for kidney transplantation. In the 10 years from 1990 to 1999, the total number of people registered with UNOS increased from 21 914 to 72 110, an increase of 230%. During the same period, the number of cadaveric donors increased from 4509 to 5822, an increase of only 29%.
In 2003, only 15 129 of 53 000 people on the waiting list received a kidney transplantation (8665 cadaver and 6464 living donor), meaning that only 29% of patients on the list were transplanted that year, and only 16% were transplanted with cadaver organs. During the same year, 3342 patients awaiting kidney transplantation died while on the waiting list (6%), and 880 (2%) were deemed too sick to undergo transplantation. Unfortunately, the proportion of patients transplanted continues to decline and the number of patients who die while on the list continues to increase.
There have been several proposals to stem the tide. Most US transplantation programmes have aggressively pursued alternatives—they have widened the criteria under which they will consider cadaver donors in an attempt to increase the potential cadaver pool. Even so, only trivial increases in the number of cadaveric donors have been recorded over the past decade. We have been more aggressive in pursuing living donation, not only of kidneys, but of other organs as well.
The problem is even more acute in many other areas of the world where the number of cadaver donors is vanishingly small, especially in countries where cultural or religious rules do not allow for the recognition of brain death such as in many countries in the Far East. Partly in response to cultural factors as well as in response to economic factors, China has adopted the policy of the use of the organs of executed prisoners for transplantation.
The debate concerning the use of an executed prisoner's organs for transplantation proceeds on several levels, the first being the entire notion of capital punishment, which is considered acceptable by some governments although its appropriateness in and of itself is not for discussion here. However, most people and governments who support capital punishment do so for only the worst crimes, such as murder or treason. It is used sparingly and on few occasions. China, however, classifies more than 68 offences as capital, including under some circumstances car theft, embezzlement, and discharging of a firearm. Each year, the number of executions in China exceeds by at least two fold the total number of executions in the rest of the world combined. Official government figures put the number of executions at around 5000 annually, but independent groups and Chen Zhonglin, a National People's Congress delegate quoted in the China Youth Daily estimate the actual number to be twice that. Of this figure, it is estimated that 1600 executed prisoners will donate some 3200 organs annually.
The Chinese government has denied this activity, but in 1984, the government issued a policy paper entitled Provisional Regulations […] on the Use of Dead Bodies or Organs from Condemned Criminals, which stipulated that prisoners were to be executed by means of shooting. Furthermore, “The dead bodies or organs of the following categories of the condemned criminals can be made use of—if family members refuse to collect the body, if the prisoners volunteer their bodies before execution, or if the families consent”.
These regulations are a disingenuous technique by the government to assure “consent” from the prisoners, no matter what the actual desire of the individual or his family. Prisoners are commonly abandoned by family members because of shame or fear of repercussions, assuring that a substantial number of prisoners fall under the first category above. It is conceivable that some prisoners, from a sense of altruism, would consent of their own accord but it is highly unlikely, given the widespread knowledge of the government's duplicity in this area.
Consent is only one of the issues raised by these circumstances. The concept of brain death is not well defined or fully accepted in China. As there is no requirement for certification of brain death before organ procurement, this situation can lead to the potential for the procurement of organs from prisoners who are not brain dead. There are eyewitness accounts of continued movement and spontaneous respirations in some prisoner-donors, indicating that these people have been subject to the removal of their organs while they are, strictly speaking, still alive.
Finally, there is the issue of the intimate involvement of the doctors and surgeons who do transplantations regarding executions and procurements, which would not happen without the agreement and full participation of the doctors involved. This situation represents a substantial breach of medical ethics for these doctors in that the primary tenet of our profession, to do no harm, is violated on a continuous basis.
We all witness first hand the anguish of our patients as they wait, seemingly endlessly, for organs to become available; desperation leads to desperate acts. Nevertheless, this desperation does not justify illegal or unethical actions. When the issues of economic gain and government complicity are intertwined into the equation, it is evident how problematic this situation has become. What are some of the possible solutions?
First and foremost, members of the international transplantation community can individually and collectively speak out. We can shun the Chinese transplantation professionals, but I believe that this is shortsighted. Although it is clear that the complicity of the surgeon who will do the transplantation is needed, it is important to consider that the orders come from above—the hospitals' administration, the military, and ultimately the government. We must let the Chinese government and military know that they are not deceiving us. We know what they are doing, and we condemn it.
The international human rights community, in conjunction with the transplant community, has initiated contact with multinational pharmaceutical companies in order to put economic and scientific pressures on China. They have begun to put together educational seminars for the Chinese transplantation community directed at addressing these issues and other ethical issues.
Moreover, the international transplantation community must address the issue of those practitioners outside of China who refer their patients to China for transplantation—the participants and purveyors of so-called transplant tourism. Without these international travellers, the Chinese transplantation community would fold from lack of business.
It is our duty to speak out against this gross violation of human rights and medical ethics. We must be strong and unequivocal in our condemnation of the use of executed prisoners' organs for transplantation.
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I'm too lazy to read this nonsense and edit. India must stop the genocide of Sikhs and Muslims. And stop supporting Israel's genocide against Palestine.
Genocide of Muslims in India!
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If China were to burn, execute, and exterminate Muslims like India. Then let's talk about why Uyghurs support Israel's genocide against Palestine!
Inspite of talking big mouth on Muslim Genocide, what you could find is 42 Muslim died. It happened in one of the worst riots of India. In which 42 Muslims died in police firing in addition to those who died in violence. In Gujarat riots also, 90 people died in police firing. Majority of them were Hindus. While at the time of arrest of Ram Rahim, violence broke out. Police fired to take situation in control. 40 people died. None of them was Muslim. So your pathetic attempt to equate it with systematic genocide of millions of Uyghurs in China is as laughable as you are a laughingstock of PDF.
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Stop talking. Go kill Muslims. Then follow Jewish propaganda.
It's interesting that India and Jews say that Uyghurs are being persecuted. Just like they massacred millions of Muslims.
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It's interesting that India and Jews say that Uyghurs are being persecuted. Just like they massacred millions of Muslims.
In India, nobody has the right to kill anybody. A Lady doctor was raped and killed by 4 goons (like the goon Army of Xi). Police killed them. Inquiry was floated and all policemen were sentenced to 10 years of prision. On the other hand, Xi's goon army has the right to abduct any person and shoot him in public.
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Oh Shiva. Indians say others sell organs.Which Mascre of Muslims? He is the one who hangs Sunni Cleric by crane to teach them a lesson. Some time ago, he hanged 13 Sunni cleric by crane. He is learning from Xi. In 7 decades, we have not hanged that many Muslims to date inspite of being worst victim of Islamic Terrorism.
Chinese Mass execution and use of their Organ for selling.
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Q: “Who did you get your kidney from?”
A: “An executed prisoner.”
Over the past several years, I have had several patients answer this question in the same way. They all were young Chinese-Americans recently returned from China with excellent function of their newly transplanted kidneys. Most were vague as to the origin of their newly transplanted organs; some cited “distant relatives” whereas others claimed not to know the source. Recently, however, several patients have given me the above response. I suppose that I should not have been so surprised to get that answer, but I was nonetheless. As I psychologically recoiled, I thought to myself, “What am I going to do here?”
In order to obtain a kidney transplant in the USA, patients with renal failure register at transplant centres and are placed on a waiting list. The more fortunate of these patients have relatives, spouses, or friends who are willing to donate a kidney to enable timelier transplantation. Without such a living donor, the waiting time can be quite long until an appropriate organ becomes available—up to 5–8 years in some parts of the USA and considerably longer in several other parts of the world. Not surprisingly, this can lead to anguish and acts of desperation for those who wait.
Several reports have recently surfaced about several problems with organ transplantation, such as organ trafficking, the sale and brokering of such organs, and the topic of this essay: the transplantation of organs from executed prisoners in China. Unfortunately, these transplantations have become more common because of an unfortunate application to healthcare of one of the laws of economics—supply and demand.
The establishment in 1984 of the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) in the USA, although it helped to organise and centralise a previously haphazard system of organ distribution, has unfortunately failed to change one fundamental problem with transplantation: there are not enough organs to go around. From May 31, 2004, 85 609 people were registered with UNOS as awaiting an organ transplantation. Of these, 58 201 were waiting for kidney transplantation. In the 10 years from 1990 to 1999, the total number of people registered with UNOS increased from 21 914 to 72 110, an increase of 230%. During the same period, the number of cadaveric donors increased from 4509 to 5822, an increase of only 29%.
In 2003, only 15 129 of 53 000 people on the waiting list received a kidney transplantation (8665 cadaver and 6464 living donor), meaning that only 29% of patients on the list were transplanted that year, and only 16% were transplanted with cadaver organs. During the same year, 3342 patients awaiting kidney transplantation died while on the waiting list (6%), and 880 (2%) were deemed too sick to undergo transplantation. Unfortunately, the proportion of patients transplanted continues to decline and the number of patients who die while on the list continues to increase.
There have been several proposals to stem the tide. Most US transplantation programmes have aggressively pursued alternatives—they have widened the criteria under which they will consider cadaver donors in an attempt to increase the potential cadaver pool. Even so, only trivial increases in the number of cadaveric donors have been recorded over the past decade. We have been more aggressive in pursuing living donation, not only of kidneys, but of other organs as well.
The problem is even more acute in many other areas of the world where the number of cadaver donors is vanishingly small, especially in countries where cultural or religious rules do not allow for the recognition of brain death such as in many countries in the Far East. Partly in response to cultural factors as well as in response to economic factors, China has adopted the policy of the use of the organs of executed prisoners for transplantation.
The debate concerning the use of an executed prisoner's organs for transplantation proceeds on several levels, the first being the entire notion of capital punishment, which is considered acceptable by some governments although its appropriateness in and of itself is not for discussion here. However, most people and governments who support capital punishment do so for only the worst crimes, such as murder or treason. It is used sparingly and on few occasions. China, however, classifies more than 68 offences as capital, including under some circumstances car theft, embezzlement, and discharging of a firearm. Each year, the number of executions in China exceeds by at least two fold the total number of executions in the rest of the world combined. Official government figures put the number of executions at around 5000 annually, but independent groups and Chen Zhonglin, a National People's Congress delegate quoted in the China Youth Daily estimate the actual number to be twice that. Of this figure, it is estimated that 1600 executed prisoners will donate some 3200 organs annually.
The Chinese government has denied this activity, but in 1984, the government issued a policy paper entitled Provisional Regulations […] on the Use of Dead Bodies or Organs from Condemned Criminals, which stipulated that prisoners were to be executed by means of shooting. Furthermore, “The dead bodies or organs of the following categories of the condemned criminals can be made use of—if family members refuse to collect the body, if the prisoners volunteer their bodies before execution, or if the families consent”.
These regulations are a disingenuous technique by the government to assure “consent” from the prisoners, no matter what the actual desire of the individual or his family. Prisoners are commonly abandoned by family members because of shame or fear of repercussions, assuring that a substantial number of prisoners fall under the first category above. It is conceivable that some prisoners, from a sense of altruism, would consent of their own accord but it is highly unlikely, given the widespread knowledge of the government's duplicity in this area.
Consent is only one of the issues raised by these circumstances. The concept of brain death is not well defined or fully accepted in China. As there is no requirement for certification of brain death before organ procurement, this situation can lead to the potential for the procurement of organs from prisoners who are not brain dead. There are eyewitness accounts of continued movement and spontaneous respirations in some prisoner-donors, indicating that these people have been subject to the removal of their organs while they are, strictly speaking, still alive.
Finally, there is the issue of the intimate involvement of the doctors and surgeons who do transplantations regarding executions and procurements, which would not happen without the agreement and full participation of the doctors involved. This situation represents a substantial breach of medical ethics for these doctors in that the primary tenet of our profession, to do no harm, is violated on a continuous basis.
We all witness first hand the anguish of our patients as they wait, seemingly endlessly, for organs to become available; desperation leads to desperate acts. Nevertheless, this desperation does not justify illegal or unethical actions. When the issues of economic gain and government complicity are intertwined into the equation, it is evident how problematic this situation has become. What are some of the possible solutions?
First and foremost, members of the international transplantation community can individually and collectively speak out. We can shun the Chinese transplantation professionals, but I believe that this is shortsighted. Although it is clear that the complicity of the surgeon who will do the transplantation is needed, it is important to consider that the orders come from above—the hospitals' administration, the military, and ultimately the government. We must let the Chinese government and military know that they are not deceiving us. We know what they are doing, and we condemn it.
The international human rights community, in conjunction with the transplant community, has initiated contact with multinational pharmaceutical companies in order to put economic and scientific pressures on China. They have begun to put together educational seminars for the Chinese transplantation community directed at addressing these issues and other ethical issues.
Moreover, the international transplantation community must address the issue of those practitioners outside of China who refer their patients to China for transplantation—the participants and purveyors of so-called transplant tourism. Without these international travellers, the Chinese transplantation community would fold from lack of business.
It is our duty to speak out against this gross violation of human rights and medical ethics. We must be strong and unequivocal in our condemnation of the use of executed prisoners' organs for transplantation.
Do Indians know what shame is?
India has the world's largest organ trafficking market!
Need a kidney? Inside the world’s biggest organ market
The illicit kidney trade in South Asia has exploded as brokers use social media to find donors.
Indians always change their ways to provide jokes for us humans!
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Oh Shiva. Indians say others sell organs.
Do Indians know what shame is?
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India has the world's largest organ trafficking market!
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Need a kidney? Inside the world’s biggest organ market
The illicit kidney trade in South Asia has exploded as brokers use social media to find donors.
Indians always change their ways to provide jokes for us humans!
Organs are donated not like China where the kidneys and liver from people in Jail are removed to sell it in black market. If you are in jail, you are a potential customer for Kideny removal. That is what exactly stated in article.
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Oh Shiva. Indians say others sell organs.
Do Indians know what shame is?
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India has the world's largest organ trafficking market!
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Need a kidney? Inside the world’s biggest organ market
The illicit kidney trade in South Asia has exploded as brokers use social media to find donors.
Indians always change their ways to provide jokes for us humans!
Yes . sell their Kideny or Donated. It is not forcefully stolen like the case in China. In China, the organs are stolen and sold to the highest bidder.
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China executed 2,400 people in 2013: report
Report claims to reveal number of death penalties carried out, a rare insight into a number considered a state secret.
2400 executed in China in 2013. This are official figure. Unofficially, it can be atleast 100 times higher.
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LOL. We believe that. Indians always provide various jokes to our human world.
Indians lie, brag, make/spread fake news, support Israel's genocide, genocide of Muslims and Sikhs. Then India is the world's largest organ trafficking country.
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in consideration of. India has repeatedly committed genocide against Muslims and Sikhs within 70 years. Any propaganda from India is not credible.China executed 2,400 people in 2013: report
Report claims to reveal number of death penalties carried out, a rare insight into a number considered a state secret.
2400 executed in China in 2013. This are official figure. Unofficially, it can be atleast 100 times higher.
Considering that India is learning genocide from Israel. India may still have committed genocide against 10 million Muslims and Sikhs.
This is the biggest crime committed by Indians against our human world. These poor Indian Muslims and Sikhs are not even criminals.
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No genocide has ever happened in India at the hands of Hindus. In China, they don't consider Muslims as human beings so genocide of Uyghurs is no genocide in the reign of dictator Xi.
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Inspite of lots of google search, what cute small Chinese found out about about genocide of Muslims in India is a warning of expert. This in itself says a lot about the human rights conditions in India. China is a country where human being are the cheapest comodity. They are subject genocide any time particularly if they are Muslims. They c
get disappear any time.
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We humans are too familiar with human rights in India.
Indians were forced to live in sewers. Enjoy severe hunger and malnutrition. There are no toilets, no running water, and the average height is only 150cm. Genocide by Official. Organs trafficked by the government. Then these poor little Indians spread Jewish fake news. Ultimately exposing the true selves of Indians.
We humans know Indians very well.
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once again. If China were to burn Muslims like Indians. If China were to bomb Uyghur schools and hospitals like Israel. Let's talk again about why Uyghurs support Israel's genocide against Palestine!
Uyghurs support Israel's genocide against Palestine!
India burning Muslims!
India and Israel pretend to be us humans. Disgusting.
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