[🇵🇰] Historical Land Of Aria ( 𐏃𐎼𐎡𐎺) in 530-323 BCE

[Lulldapull]

Many of the Sassanid parsi fellas say that it was actually Rome/ Byzantium that secretly supported Bedouin Arabians and when Khosraw lost the last major war in 641 AD, Rome armed the Arabs and nudged them to start war with Persia. Bedouin Arabians had no agriculture nor metal foundaries nor metal working skills nor any horses no nothing. And since the stars were all wrong, the Sinuye plague hit the Persians hard and the population thinned out more. Caliph Omar saw his chance and he beat an exhausted and plague hit Sassanid empire already on its knees.

 

[Old School]

Many of the Sassanid parsi fellas say that it was actually Rome/ Byzantium that secretly supported Bedouin Arabians and when Khosraw lost the last major war in 641 AD, Rome armed the Arabs and nudged them to start war with Persia. Bedouin Arabians had no agriculture nor metal foundaries nor metal working skills nor any horses no nothing. And since the stars were all wrong, the Sinuye plague hit the Persians hard and the population thinned out more. Caliph Omar saw his chance and he beat an exhausted and plague hit Sassanid empire already on its knees.

I have been studying research on this subject for the last 15 years. The deal between Byzantine and Ghassanid Arabs was not a secret but open. The Byzantine emperor Heraclius made a deal with their Ghassanid Arab clients: if they helped defeat the Sassanids, then the Byzantines would give them Syria and Palestine ( greater Levant) and leave the area under them. One of the conditions was that Ghassanid Arabs must follow monotheism and condemn paganism. So, the Gassanids converted to monophysite Christianity, which was quite different from the Byzantine orthodoxy. If you look at the coins of the first Ummayad ruler, Muawiya, there is a cross in his coin. It is the oldest coin discovered of any Arab ruler and can be seen at the British Museum. No coin/document was discovered before Muawiya time, which will be very problematic for present-day Muslims. Islam, as we know it today, was an invention of the Abbasids, who wanted to separate themselves from the monophysite Christians and have their own religion/prophet.

 

[Old School]

Arab literally means people of the West, and Bedouins are people from the South. In other words, Arabs were basically people from the Levantine region, aka West Asia. It was later hijacked to the desert by the Abbasids due to internal rivalry with the Jerusalem faction ( Umayyads). However, it was the Umayyads who invented the present Arabic script by adding diacritical marks ( nuktas) to the old Syriac alphabet.

 

[Lulldapull]

I have been studying research on this subject for the last 15 years. The deal between Byzantine and Ghassanid Arabs was not a secret but open. The Byzantine emperor Heraclius made a deal with their Ghassanid Arab clients: if they helped defeat the Sassanids, then the Byzantines would give them Syria and Palestine ( greater Levant) and leave the area under them. One of the conditions was that Ghassanid Arabs must follow monotheism and condemn paganism. So, the Gassanids converted to monophysite Christianity, which was quite different from the Byzantine orthodoxy. If you look at the coins of the first Ummayad ruler, Muawiya, there is a cross in his coin. It is the oldest coin discovered of any Arab ruler and can be seen at the British Museum. No coin/document was discovered before Muawiya time, which will be very problematic for present-day Muslims. Islam, as we know it today, was an invention of the Abbasids, who wanted to separate themselves from the monophysite Christians and have their own religion/prophet.

oh yeah.......over at the Zoroastrian forums they know so much more than regular people about how Sassanid Persia fell and Rome's direct involvement in this event. Very surprised to read all their posts but now it all makes sense. Rome played a key role in the Sassanid defeat. The other issue to highlight here is the white washed history fed to us pendu in Islamiyat class.....lol....no we finding half da stories are highly suspicious or downright fraudulent.

 

[Old School]

oh yeah.......over at the Zoroastrian forums they know so much more than regular people about how Sassanid Persia fell and Rome's direct involvement in this event. Very surprised to read all their posts but now it all makes sense. Rome played a key role in the Sassanid defeat. The other issue to highlight here is the white washed history fed to us pendu in Islamiyat class.....lol....no we finding half da stories are highly suspicious or downright fraudulent.

Abbasids invented many fictitious characters to market their new religion. If you read Ferdowsis Shahnameh, which was written around that time, you will see that he never knew of the many religious characters' names that were invented later. Shahnameh is basically 5000 years of Persian history, and there is no such name as Umar or ALi there.

 

[Aryobarzan]

Abbasids invented many fictitious characters to market their new religion. If you read Ferdowsis Shahnameh, which was written around that time, you will see that he never knew of the many religious characters' names that were invented later. Shahnameh is basically 5000 years of Persian history, and there is no such name as Umar or ALi there.

Fascinating to learn how all this religious stories are being fed to all of us...it is the same in Christianity...just fake stories for the unsuspecting population..wow..my head is spinning...lol..thank you both for your posts.

 

[Old School]

Fascinating to learn how all this religious stories are being fed to all of us...it is the same in Christianity...just fake stories for the unsuspecting population..wow..my head is spinning...lol..thank you both for your posts.

If the truth is told , a lot of people in our society will faint from the deceptions they have been fed for hundreds of years, but they will keep their mouths shut for fear for their lives. Let me tell you, Merv, in Turkmenistan, was a Buddhist center since the Ancient Persian era and Abbasid Sultan Al-Mamun operated from there. He picked up and incorporated many Buddhist customs and injected those his new religion. Most powerful people in the Ummyyads and Abbasids were originally from Merv, but they were not native Persian speakers. They were Syriac-speaking mercenaries/ settlers who were put there by Sassanids. Turkic/Mongols were not yet that powerful in the regions, but the Huns were.

 

[Egyptian]

Interesting.