[🇵🇰] Jinnah And Urdu-Bengali Controversy: A Historical Fallacy

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Look Bangladesh got their independence. Who cares now?

 

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I want da 4 million bungali/ rohingya outta Karachi!......Bungali don't even talk to us here overseas and bring up 1971 wid us all da time! In saaron nu deport karnay da waqat aya ae!.....Just push them into India........We got about 30-40 million illegals in our country. Half of Karachi full of illegal migrants, funneled into our country by our corrupt/ harami Sindh gubment. Just like what is going on in da US, UK, Kannayda, Australia and NZ today.......

We could use their human resources in the construction, labour, and military purposes.

 

[Lulldapull]

We could use their human resources in the construction, labour, and military purposes.

oh bhai ye kuchh nahi karday.......they live in their ghetto's, do their own dramay......we can't mix wid dem cuz of racial/ cultural issues no?.......Yous know right?......our society very segregated along racial/ cultural/ educational/ westernization lines.

 

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oh bhai ye kuchh nahi karday.......they live in their ghetto's, do their own dramay......we can't mix wid dem cuz of racial/ cultural issues no?.......Yous know right?......our society very segregated along racial/ cultural/ educational/ westernization lines.

Even if they are lazy good for nothing. We can use their human resources for labour and construction.

 

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They don't even allow our people even visa to go do business in their country, cuz theys under indian influence no? Saanu utthay jana block hae ga for business/ regular tourist/ migration no? but 30 million muzlim bungali in India as refugee and 4 million in Karachi no? Subhaanallah!

I see your point. However a large population drives the economy. Even scholar Mawdudi recognized this fact in Economics.

 

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In Economics you need a large amount of land, capital/money, and human resources.

 

[Old School]

I am sure there are illegals here. I myself saw what appeared to be a poor Bangla man trying to sell us stuff.

It makes poor patriotic Bangladeshis look pathetic. But 40 million foreigners seems like an exaggeration.

Bengalis here are around 3 million. As far as I know, the federal government's political discourse on the Bengalis differs significantly from that of other immigrants. They might be granted citizenship at a certain stage. Here is an excerpt that also reflects the mainstream political view on Bengali immigrants in Pakistan :

"If seen from a historical and ideological point of view, the government cannot equate Bengalis living in Pakistan with Afghans, Iranians or Indians because they were Pakistanis till 1971 and their contribution to the Pakistan Movement cannot be denied. It is suggested that, instead of harassing the Bengali population and putting them at the mercy of the special branch of police or the home department for the issuance of alien registration cards or citizenship certificates, they should be properly treated (Ahmar, Moonis 2002, ‘Are Bengalis aliens in Pakistan?’ http://www.dawn.com/2002/11/19/letted.htm. "

 

[ThunderCat]

Bengalis here are around 3 million. As far as I know, the federal government's political discourse on the Bengalis differs significantly from that of other immigrants. They might be granted citizenship at a certain stage. Here is an excerpt that also reflects the mainstream political view on Bengali immigrants in Pakistan :

"If seen from a historical and ideological point of view, the government cannot equate Bengalis living in Pakistan with Afghans, Iranians or Indians because they were Pakistanis till 1971 and their contribution to the Pakistan Movement cannot be denied. It is suggested that, instead of harassing the Bengali population and putting them at the mercy of the special branch of police or the home department for the issuance of alien registration cards or citizenship certificates, they should be properly treated (Ahmar, Moonis 2002, ‘Are Bengalis aliens in Pakistan?’ http://www.dawn.com/2002/11/19/letted.htm. "

Even those who immigrated before 1971 can be seen as illegals if they were registered as East Pakistanis.

 

[Old School]

Even those who immigrated before 1971 can be seen as illegals if they were registered as East Pakistanis.

Before 1971, they were officially considered Pakistani, and they are still. They did not need anything like the muhajir, who, even from India, was still officially an enemy state at that time. There was no registration policy or regime in those days, as you see now. The issue before 1971 is legally settled. Now, the remaining issue is post-1971. Think about those who claim to have come from Indian Punjab but look more like Gujratis.

 

[Old School]

This thread is closed now due to unrelated discussions going too far.