[🇮🇳] IAF Official: Upgraded sukhoi 30 MKI with virupaksha radar, AWACS and Astra MK3 will out match Pakistan J35A.

[Krishna with Flute]

We believe that AESA is not worth boasting about.. But DJI does have AESA technology. DJI installed AESA radar on agricultural drones.

last. Respect Indian propaganda. Indian Universe No.1.

India is using it in small missiles.

Does China have any Batter technology than AESA Radar for detection of fighter jets? You are boasting as usual but the fact of the matter is that Chinese AESA technology is worst amongst all nations making AESA radar.

 

[Jiangnan]

India is using it in small missiles.

Does China have any Batter technology than AESA Radar for detection of fighter jets? You are boasting as usual but the fact of the matter is that Chinese AESA technology is worst amongst all nations making AESA radar.

emmm..... I have always said that the Indian is universe NO.1.

My opinion is. Indians may live in another universe.

In another universe. Indian assembled fighter jets can fly. India assemble missiles can launch. India has AESA technology.... india NO.1.

But in our human universe. India is the world's most backward agricultural country, NO technology and industrial capacity. Indian assembled fighter jets cannot fly. Indian missiles are Russia's obsolete goods.

Indians make AESA? What kind of anti human joke is this?

Indians, don't waste time boasting that India is related to the word 'technology'. Go kneel down and beg for Rafale and F-35. Save you poor IAF.

yesterday!

Every time we humans see Indians boasting. It's like watching a monkey Show off its bananas 。

 

[Krishna with Flute]

emmm..... I have always said that the Indian is universe NO.1.

My opinion is. Indians may live in another universe.

In another universe. Indian assembled fighter jets can fly. India assemble missiles can launch. India has AESA technology.... india NO.1.

But in our human universe. India is the world's most backward agricultural country, NO technology and industrial capacity. Indian assembled fighter jets cannot fly. Indian missiles are Russia's obsolete goods.

Indians make AESA? What kind of anti human joke is this?

Indians, don't waste time boasting that India is related to the word 'technology'. Go kneel down and beg for Rafale and F-35. Save you poor IAF.

yesterday!

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Every time we humans see Indians boasting. It's like watching a monkey Show off its bananas 。

India knew agriculture and animal husbandry from the days when your forefathers were living in caves. This is the reason why Indians don't eat, frogs, cockroaches, snake soup, bat soup, dogs and cats. We used to use agriculture products and milk items as food.

 

[Jiangnan]

'India' is' India '. 'Technology' is' Technology '. Don't associate these two words together.

yesterday. Wednesday, May 2nd.

Air Force pilot dies after fighter jet crashes in western India

Probe ordered to determine cause of accident - Anadolu Ajansı

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[Jiangnan]

India knew agriculture and animal husbandry from the days when your forefathers were living in caves. This is the reason why Indians don't eat, frogs, cockroaches, snake soup, bat soup, dogs and cats. We used to use agriculture products and milk items as food.

India' is' India '. 'Technology' is' Technology '. Don't associate these two words together.

Now go eat sh1t. Then rape your lizard brides.

 

[Bilal9]

yes we do have. Our new AW&Cs are based on GAN AESA only. We do have Geranium available to make All AESA radars we need based on GAN. Congratulation to China for having GAN stock pile of 98%. Now China can make 49 times more AESA radars of whole world put together.

Krishan Dada - you upgraded one small part (radar) of SU-30 and trumpeting that as a big (vote getter propaganda) achievement?

Chinese are way more advanced on producing AESA radars and has been doing it for the last two decades, unlike India which is just getting to do this.

PLA Air Force took the SU-27/30/35 and improved it after building them under license over twenty years ago, building them from scratch (yes - the whole aircraft including even radar, BVR missile integration, avionics and engines) and they made these in two or three different versions. And you claim you did better than them? I don't know whether to laugh or to cry...

PLAAF has far far more of them than India does. Just stop already, you are embarrassing yourself. Lies and Hogwash only go so far.

Shenyang J-11A/B/BS Air Superiority fighter (PLAAF license built version of Su-27 - about 300 deployed)

Shenyang J-15 T/D/EW PLANAF (about 60 deployed)

Shenyang J-16 4.5 Gen Strike Fighter (refinement developed from J-11 above - 300 or so deployed). Chinese J-16s have sported AESA radars and WS-10 Chinese engines since 2015. A lot of the tech in J-16 (esp. avionics) is derived from the stealth fighter J-20.

Meanwhile - Indian flankers (Su-30MKI) only number below 300 and are one or more generations behind J-16. AND India is therefore dependent on Russia for upgrades and AL-31F engine parts to overhaul low MTBF engines.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Krishan Dada - you upgraded one small part (radar) of SU-30 and trumpeting that as a big (vote getter propaganda) achievement?

Chinese are way more advanced on producing AESA radars and has been doing it for the last two decades, unlike India which is just getting to do this.

PLA Air Force took the SU-27/30/35 and improved it after building them under license over twenty years ago, building them from scratch (yes - the whole aircraft including even radar, BVR missile integration, avionics and engines) and they made these in two or three different versions. And you claim you did better than them? I don't know whether to laugh or to cry...

PLAAF has far far more of them than India does. Just stop already, you are embarrassing yourself. Lies and Hogwash only go so far.

Shenyang J-11A/B/BS Air Superiority fighter (PLAAF license built version of Su-27 - about 300 deployed)
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Shenyang J-15 T/D/EW PLANAF (about 60 deployed)
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Shenyang J-16 4.5 Gen Strike Fighter (refinement developed from J-11 above - 300 or so deployed). Chinese J-16s have sported AESA radars and WS-10 Chinese engines since 2015. A lot of the tech in J-16 (esp. avionics) is derived from the stealth fighter J-20.
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Meanwhile - Indian flankers (Su-30MKI) only number below 300 and are one or more generations behind J-16. AND India is therefore dependent on Russia for upgrades and AL-31F engine parts to overhaul low MTBF engines.

Since you seem to be highly impressed by Chinese fighters and claims that they are far superior to Russian counterparts, let me quote the result of an excercise whose outcome was kept secret for 4 years. It was between Thai air force and PLAAF. Small old Gripen C out matched Chinese J11 and humiliated them very badly.

Saab Gripen ‘Rips Apart’ Chinese J-11 Fighters In War Games; Experts Call Them ‘Sitting Ducks’ For Rafales​

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Apoorva Jain
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August 9, 2021

A “dogfight” between Saab Gripen and the Chinese J-11 fighter jets game provides lessons to militaries around the world on how to get the better of Chinese warplanes. ​

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Details of Exercise Falcon Strike 2015, the first-ever joint exercise between the Chinese and Thai air forces, which was held at Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base for two weeks in mid-November 2015, were revealed in 2019.

While the Chinese PLA Air Force (PLAAF) brought J-11 to the wargame, the Thai Air Force deployed Swedish Saab JAS-39C/D Gripens, though it also operates the American F-16s.

What astounded the military experts is that a 25-year-old fighter overpowered the relatively younger Chinese J-11 aircraft especially during the beyond-visual-range (BVR) engagements.​

This humiliating defeat by the Gripens exposed the reality of China’s air-warfare capabilities, with experts commenting on J-11s not having a chance against the muc advanced Rafales that the Indian Air Force is operating.​

Gripen Vs J-11​

The Saab JAS 39 Gripen is a Swedish fourth-generation single-engine multirole fighter jet that took its first flight in 1988 and entered service in 1996. With a speed of Mach 2, the Gripens have been sold to six nations across Central Europe, South Africa, and Southeast Asia.

The Thailand Air Force operates a NATO-compatible C/D model with extended capabilities in terms of armament, electronics, etc., and it can also be refueled in flight.

On the other hand, China’s J-11 fighter is based on the Soviet-designed Sukhoi Su-27. The J-11 is a twin-engine jet that took its first flight in 1998.​

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A Thai Royal Air Force Saab Gripen. (via Gripen News)

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With its multiple variants and upgrades like the missile approach warning system (MAWS), the improved cockpit displays, and fire control systems for R-77 or PL-10 missiles, the J-11s have become a significant part of the Chinese Air Force with more than 400 in service while the Navy operates around 70 of the fighters.

The EurAsian Times earlier reported how China is continuing research and development of the J-11 fighter, which might affect the future of its J-10 aircraft.​

SAAB Gripens Destroy Chinese J-11s​

Across the seven days of the exercise, the Chinese jets performed subparly, leading many analysts to cast doubts over China’s aerial capabilities.

During the first two days of the war game, the powerful J-11s shot down 16 Gripens in a visual-range battle with no loss.​

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Reports suggest that the Thai Gripen was armed with AIM-9 infrared-guided missiles and an internal cannon for close-range combat, while the J-11s were armed with infrared-guided short-range missiles — the PL-8s.​

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A PLAAF J-11 flying from an airbase in western China, in February 2018. (via Twitter)

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However, in the following days, as the game shifted to beyond-visual-range engagements, the Gripen armed with AIM-120 medium-range missiles proved to be a far better fighter than the J-11 with its own medium-range missiles, possibly PL-12s.

The Gripens shot down a total of 41 Chinese J-11s at a loss of six fighters. The final tally after the completion of seven days stood in favor of the Swedish fighters as it shot down 42 J-11s at a loss of 34 only.

Interestingly, military analysts observed that Gripens outperformed the J-11s in terms of the range, given how 88% of the Thai kills occurred at a range of at least 19 miles, while the Chinese scored just 14% of their kills at the same range.

The Gripens also scored 10 kills at a distance of more than 31 miles, while the J-11s scored no kills. The Aviation website Alert 5 noted that the Chinese pilots had poor situational awareness.

“Too much focus was on the front of the aircraft rather than all around. In phases of the war game where J-11s escorted other planes, there was a lack of coordination,” the website said.

“Chinese pilots were not experienced in avoiding missile shots, their responses were too mechanical, and [they] could not judge correctly the evasive techniques for missiles with different ranges,” Alert 5 added.​

India Rafales​

The struggle of Chinese jets against the fourth-generation Gripen has thrilled Indian military analysts, given that the Indian Air Force now hosts two squadrons of the 4.5-generation French-made Rafales.​

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India’s Rafale fighter jets.

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Amid the ongoing standoff between India and China at the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh, experts have started speculating how Indian Rafales will fare against the Chinese aircraft, especially with their fifth-generation J-20.​

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The Rafales are combat-proven multirole aircraft that have been used by the French Air Force for its missions in the Middle East, while the J-20 has not been deployed in any conflict zones as yet. With a capacity to carry six AASM missiles, the Rafales outflank the J-20 in terms of weapons, fuel, and combat experience.

The EurAsian Times earlier published a report in which Former IAF pilot Vijainder K Thakur compared the stealthy J-20 to Indian Rafales in case of potential aerial combat.​

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China’s J-20 stealth fighter jet. (via Twitter)

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“The stealth advantage of the J-20 would give it a ‘first see, first shoot’ advantage in BVR combat over all Indian fighters except for the Rafale,” he said.

However, he added that against the Rafale, which is equipped with low RCS, Spectra self-protection suite with RF cloaking, and Meteor 150-km BVR missile, the J-20 will find it extremely hard to defeat the fighter.​

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Apoorva Jain

Apoorva is a graduate in Political Science from Delhi University and holds a Masters in Politics and International Studies from Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU, New Delhi). She has been previously associated with National Maritime Foundation and the Centre for Security and Strategic Studies.

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[Krishna with Flute]

raising questions about the J-20's stealth capabilities.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• The Claim:
  Indian Air Chief Marshal B.S. Dhanoa stated that the radars on India's Su-30MKI fighters could detect a J-20 from "several kilometers away".
  
  
• Context:
  This claim came after China deployed J-20s in Tibet, near the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with India.
  
  
• Counterarguments:
  Some analysts questioned the validity of the claim, suggesting that the J-20 might have been flying with radar reflectors for safety or training purposes.
  
  
• J-20 Stealth Capabilities:
  Experts noted that while the J-20 has stealth characteristics, they are not as comprehensive as those of the US F-22 and F-35, particularly in the rear aspect.
  
  
• Su-30MKI Radar:
  The Su-30MKI is equipped with a Bars radar which is capable of detecting and tracking multiple targets simultaneously.
  
  
• Recent Reports:
  Recent reports suggest that the J-20's stealth profile has been enhanced with each batch produced.
  
  
• IAF Deployment:
  The IAF operates Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighter jets from both Chabua and Tezpur AFB in Assam.
  
  
• PLAAF Bases in Tibet:
  The Tibetan Plateau hosts several key PLAAF airbases, such as Hotan, Ngari Gunsa, and Lhasa Gonggar, located between 1,500 and 3,000 kilometers from India's northern borders.
  
  
• J-20 Deployment:
  The J-20 stealth fighter is China's most advanced operational fighter aircraft to date.
  
  
• Indian Air Force Awareness:
  The Indian Air Force is aware of the J-20 deployment but has chosen not to comment.
  
  
  
  
  Read above to get idea of J 20 was detected by su 30 flanker from a long distance.
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• Moreover, China had carried out an excercise of J20 vs Chinese non stealth fighters. J20 had scored 3.5 to 1 kill ratio. For F22, the ratio is is 100 to 1. So keep boasting Chinese jet which is nothing but Sh*t like Chinese rockets which keeps falls ng on civilian areas. Highly unreliable. Failed launches are declared successful. They too had tried to do live telecast of their rocket like India. Rocket fell down and China stopped live telecasting them since then. Chinese heavy lift rockets have fallen more than they succeeded. No country except a country like Pakistan use Chinese rockets for their satellite launch. On other hand, India has launched over 350 foreign satellite without a single failure. We are more than happy if our enemy buys Chinese weapons.