[🇧🇩] Indo-Bangla Relation: India's Regional Ambition, Geopolitical Reality, and Strategic Options For Bangladesh

[PakistaniMan]

BJP and democracy? BJPs are ruthless autocrats and vote chors.

Compared to the PDM chors, BJP look like sunshine and rainbows

 

[Guru Dutt]

BJP and democracy? BJPs are ruthless autocrats and vote chors.

everything is on internet

go and check last 12 BJP party heads in last say 20 years and who were the party head in last 20 years Congress or Samajwady party or Lallu Yadavs JDS

 

[Bilal9]

Those pics are a novelty over there, who you trying to fool, man ?

They are not a novelty. All these scenes are a part of everyday life, super common and prevalent.

People can study and excel in Bharata Natyam dance in a studio and her mom (or Dad) can don the Hijab and do Namaz five times a day.

Your relationship with Allah is your own - it's personal. No one is a true Muslim who looks down on Hindus or Buddhists or animists.

No Mullah, no one else other than you yourself can dictate how you should connect with Allah.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Haight, Ashbury waali battein kar raha banda.

 

[Bilal9]

Haight, Ashbury waali battein kar raha banda.

Admit it, the four of you are just here to bad mouth Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. This is the Hindutva MO. No other narrative is allowable.

Funny enough - your major media houses are starting to realize BJP's folly and asking them to re-cast relationships with neighbors.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Admit it, the four of you are just here to bad mouth Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. This is the Hindutva MO. No other narrative is allowable.

I only speak for myself, views may occasionally converge and diverge with anyone. Certainly not here to bad mouth anyone.. nice small community to discuss things, all good fun. Not like you lot don't discuss Indian issues either, is it ?

Sorry for the butthurt lol

 

[Vsdoc]

Billu why you deleted my Malibu cocaine post?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

All those videos you have were fact-checked, found to be unrelated or from the past and generally fraudulent.

I hope the BJP and VHP give up these attempts of false propaganda and trying to create unrest in Bangladesh - even Bangladeshi Sanatanis are getting disgusted and asking Indian BJP and VHP to stop these embarrassing and childish propaganda attempts with Godi Media.

If you don't like Azaan in the open (too noisy) - then make legislation to stop it if you can. There are cellphone Azaan apps nowadays which should be available to every Muslim in India.

These are celebrations on Dhaka streets in the last two years. "C" grade Arabs enjoyed these Hindu festivals every year.

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These are Muslim boys/girls who had their Arangetram festival earlier, I guess they are "C" grade Arabs as well. I had many friends whose daughters graduated Arangetram from Dhaka Bharata Natyam schools. Just go easy on the "Bangladeshis are all Talibani and Jihadi" trope. This is insulting calling people slurs and names. Have some shame. And most Bangladeshi people have a nickname which is not Arabic. Like "Aurgho", "Shanto", "Nalini", "Priya", "Ishika", "Luvonee" (short for Lavanya).
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I agree with you on stopping Azan. Secondly, what you have cited regarding the Hindu festival celebration is those few things which has managed to survive which radicals want to crush. Had that been true, Hindus would not have reduced to less than 4th in 5 decades. Nobody can cite isolated incidents or pictures to defy the data. The truth revealed by data is the authentic truth. Last time, Hindus faced issues in Durga Pooja celebration as well.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Yeah, if the Mughals wanted to convert they could have done it in their 1000 years rule over India. Your few dozens brave hearts could have escaped but not the millions of cowards. The majority of Indians were cowards......always subjected to rules of foreign powers.

Had Mughals 1000yers of rule? Why don't you read history before commenting here?

 

[Bilal9]

I agree with you on stopping Azan. Secondly, what you have cited regarding the Hindu festival celebration is those few things which has managed to survive which radicals want to crush. Had that been true, Hindus would not have reduced to less than 4th in 5 decades. Nobody can cite isolated incidents or pictures to defy the data. The truth revealed by data is the authentic truth. Last time, Hindus faced issues in Durga Pooja celebration as well.

If "radicals" (guessing "Mullahs" in your parlance) were truly active, there would not have been Hindus left in Bangladesh.

But they are surviving and thriving. 37% of all govt. jobs in Bangladesh are held by Hindus (because of quota). Do you see any protests in Bangladesh because of it?? Hindus right now are around 9% of the Bangladesh population. The jobs they get are disproportionate to the Hindu proportion of the population. Even Hindus themselves protested against these quotas.

Hindus leave Bangladesh for India (and other countries) for many varied reasons. Oppression is the least of it. There are opportunities available in India which are simply not available in Bangladesh - because of India's size and business scope. Ditto for EU, US, UK.

I personally know high class educated Hindu friends of mine whose parents left Bangladesh before and after 1971 and became fabulously wealthy in India through utilizing trade and business opportunities between both countries (export/import) , some settled in Delhi, some in Mumbai and Kolkata. People do what is best for their future and that of their families.

 

[Bilal9]

Had Mughals 1000yers of rule? Why don't you read history before commenting here?

What he's saying was that the Mughal emperors were in large portion of the totality, very liberal. They treated their Hindu subject fairly and with respect.

Akbar especially came up with his own religion, Deen-e-Elahi (which mixed major portion of Hinduism), and antagonized many of his Muslim courtiers just to please his Hindu subjects.

Many of the Mughal Emperors ended up marrying Hindu Rajput princesses and allowed their Rajput wives to carry out Hindu religious traditions in the temples that were built for that purpose. We have all seen Jodha-bai the movie but she was Akbar's principal consort. Visiting her tomb in Agra is definitely on my bucket-list (shown below).

The entire Mughal bloodline (at least a portion of it) was Hindu after a certain point when they started taking Rajput wives. I don't know why there is such animosity against Mughals in today's India. People are not informed anymore, Indians don't read their own history. Mughals had enough Hindu blood.

Hindi (Sanskrit mixed with Urdu) was I believe created during that time period to ease communication with non-Muslim courtiers and subjects, but I could be wrong.

Most Mughal emperors were very good to their non-Muslim subjects - and we all know Aurangzeb was not a saint in that dept. but haathoh ki panch ungli ek nahi hota.

Tomb of Jodha Bai (Mariam-uz-Zamani)

 

[Saif]

Dhaka-Delhi talks: Indian foreign secy to fly in December 9

India yesterday confirmed the visit by its Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri to Dhaka on December 9 in the first top diplomatic contact with Bangladesh since the ouster of Sheikh Hasina as prime minister of Bangladesh in August.

www.thedailystar.net

Dhaka-Delhi talks: Indian foreign secy to fly in December 9
Indian Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri to visit Dhaka amid rising tensions

Photo: Collected

India yesterday confirmed the visit by its Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri to Dhaka on December 9 in the first top diplomatic contact with Bangladesh since the ouster of Sheikh Hasina as prime minister of Bangladesh in August.

The meeting also comes at a time when ties between Dhaka and Delhi are under considerable strain over various issues, including allegations of attacks on minorities in Bangladesh.

Ministry of External Affairs spokesman Randhir Jaiswal told the weekly media briefing in New Delhi that the Indian Foreign Secretary will travel to Bangladesh on December 9 for Foreign Office Consultations (FOC) with his counterpart.

During his stay in Dhaka, Misri will hold talks with his Bangladesh counterpart Jasim Uddin besides having several other meetings that have been firmed up, Jaiswal said without divulging if India's top diplomat will call on Yunus.

Asked about the agenda of FOC, Jaiswal said in Dhaka the Indian Foreign Secretary would discuss all issues of mutual interest.

The MEA spokesperson did not specify any particular issue or issues.

When a reporter pointed out that former ISKCON member Chinmoy Krishna Das was not given bail and the previous court hearing was deferred by a month, Jaiswal reiterated that he would get a fair and transparent trial and his legal rights would be respected.

"We want to reiterate our position that his [Das] legal rights will be respected and he will be allowed to exercise those rights and he will be given a fair and transparent trial."

The visit by the Indian foreign secretary was agreed on at a meeting between Indian External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar and Bangladesh's Foreign Affairs Adviser Touhid Hossain on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York on September 23.

The Jaishankar-Hossain interaction was the first since Hasina stepped down in the face of widespread protests and the caretaker administration led by Yunus came to power on August 8.

The change of guard in Dhaka has sparked diplomatic tensions between Dhaka and New Delhi due to various factors, including the alleged targeting of Hindus and other minorities in Bangladesh and the anger in Dhaka over Hasina's presence in India where she sought shelter after fleeing Bangladesh.

Yunus and other leaders of the interim government have repeatedly demanded Hasina's extradition from India.

Bangladesh's Foreign Ministry also summoned Indian High Commissioner to Bangladesh Pranay Verma on last Tuesday to protest the security breach at the Assistant High Commission of Bangladesh in Agartala by a large group of Hindu right-wing group protesters on Monday.

The last foreign office consultations, a dialogue mechanism between Bangladesh and India to review the overall bilateral relationship, were held in New Delhi in November 2023.​

 

[Krishna with Flute]

What he's saying was that the Mughal emperors were in large portion of the totality, very liberal. They treated their Hindu subject fairly and with respect.

Akbar especially came up with his own religion, Deen-e-Elahi (which mixed major portion of Hinduism), and antagonized many of his Muslim courtiers just to please his Hindu subjects.

Many of the Mughal Emperors ended up marrying Hindu Rajput princesses and allowed their Rajput wives to carry out Hindu religious traditions in the temples that were built for that purpose. We have all seen Jodha-bai the movie but she was Akbar's principal consort. Visiting her tomb in Agra is definitely on my bucket-list (shown below).

The entire Mughal bloodline (at least a portion of it) was Hindu after a certain point when they started taking Rajput wives. I don't know why there is such animosity against Mughals in today's India. People are not informed anymore, Indians don't read their own history. Mughals had enough Hindu blood.

Hindi (Sanskrit mixed with Urdu) was I believe created during that time period to ease communication with non-Muslim courtiers and subjects, but I could be wrong.

Most Mughal emperors were very good to their non-Muslim subjects - and we all know Aurangzeb was not a saint in that dept. but haathoh ki panch ungli ek nahi hota.

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Tomb of Jodha Bai (Mariam-uz-Zamani)
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Akbar has written in his Akbarnama that he butchered 30000 Hindus while attacking Chittoda. When Akbar was like this, there will be no need to talk about others. Why you guys have too much passion of proving Muslims liberals. Mughals reign on India is one of the bloodiest chepter of man kind. Pakistan tries to prove Pakistan as liberal and secular after butchering 3 million Bengalis. They try to show sympathy with Palestinians after zia ul haq butchered 25000 Palestinians, BD is liberal after reducing Hindus to less than 1/4th in 5 decades.

 

[Bilal9]

When a reporter pointed out that former ISKCON member Chinmoy Krishna Das was not given bail and the previous court hearing was deferred by a month, Jaiswal reiterated that he would get a fair and transparent trial and his legal rights would be respected.

"We want to reiterate our position that his [Das] legal rights will be respected and he will be allowed to exercise those rights and he will be given a fair and transparent trial."

We need to have our foreign secretary ask his Indian counterpart, how they will ensure inserting themselves into the Judicial process of a sovereign country other than their own.

ISKCON member (and proven criminal) Chinmoy Krishna Das is a Bangladeshi citizen.

Where India legitimizes their "intervention" is anyone's guess.

These people have some gall.

 

[Saif]

We need to have our foreign secretary ask his Indian counterpart, how they will ensure inserting themselves into the Judicial process of a sovereign country other than their own.

These people have some gall.

Sheikh Hasina in her 16 years of rule in Bangladesh made sure that our foreign policy toe the Indian official line. She has reduced Bangladesh into a vassal state of India. Luckily, the present government is making things right for us and following an independent foreign policy.