[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India

[Vsdoc]

I think Irani gubment rhetoric and its policies show a pretty big dichotomy no?

Moon per boltay hain Islamic dis n Islamic dat…..mager do totally opposite no?

Armenia ko support/ Assad ko support and totally biological enemy of GCC and others.

And allied with India no?

GCC is not thekedar of Muslims no?

 

[Sharma Ji]

I think Irani gubment rhetoric and its policies show a pretty big dichotomy no?

Moon per boltay hain Islamic dis n Islamic dat…..mager do totally opposite no?

Armenia ko support/ Assad ko support and totally biological enemy of GCC and others.

And allied with India no?

pragmatic log hain

they also cant afford to be too rigid

 

[Vsdoc]

Hmm

im also fascinated with how the shia tend to vote BJP here, we were discussing the other day..

Purely sectarian.

 

[Lulldapull]

GCC is not thekedar of Muslims no?

Ghareebon ko paisay detay hain cuz da US and Israel tell them to no?

Vurna kyun dengay?

Saari baat US/Israel per aaker khatam hoti hae!

Iran knows these basturds very well.

J Shanker keh ra thaa na kal k the old 911 number ain’t working…..lol

Iran is 45 years ahead on how to deal with terror king pins.

It’s just reality guys. Everybody thinks Iran is crazy…..lol

There is a reason…..

 

[Vsdoc]

Mera batchmate!

Proud.

@Sharma Ji @Guru Dutt @Bagheera0084 @Lulldapull @Mainerik

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Mera batchmate!

Proud.

@Sharma Ji @Guru Dutt @Bagheera0084 @Lulldapull @Mainerik

This military administrative machinery confuses me. Do AFMC doctors play the role of just doctors in battlefield or do they participate in combat or do they get higher leadership posts later in their career? Just what is their role?

 

[Lulldapull]

New reports coming out that the PAF lost 4 Eff-sola in the air to the S-400’s right over Sargodha! They didn’t even know what hit them. Then 4 more on the ground in that hit on Bholaarri and Jacobabad in those big hangers

And the AWACs at Jacobabad also in that hanger.

At Chaklala/ Nur Khan a C-130 and an IL-78 tanker fell victims to Brahmos strikes.

In addition 2 Jeff Thunders also fell to S-400’s and a Mirage, whilst on CAP.

After all this the PAF was effectively grounded and held in reserve.

J-10C shot down two decoy/ sniffer Banshee drones.

Toba toba…..what a disastrous situation the PAF found itself in.

Bilkul neutralize kar diya India nay.

 

[Vsdoc]

This military administrative machinery confuses me. Do AFMC doctors play the role of just doctors in battlefield or do they participate in combat or do they get higher leadership posts later in their career? Just what is their role?

They are pure AMC. Can rise to the top rank of DGAFMS. That's a Lt Gen. Doctors. But many also branch out into the fighting forces. Black Cats. Commando. Marcos. Paras. Submariners. Youngsters accompany the fighting forces (just behind) at the front. Ive had friends in the RR. In full civvy daadhi camo. UN postings. Even Afghanistan. Tajikistan. One of my batchmates serves in Modi's Niti Aayog. We work closely from time to time.

 

[Lulldapull]

New vid out on de carnage gents:

 

[Vsdoc]

New vid out on de carnage gents:

I dont obviously buy the theory that Pakistan has been denuked.

That all their nukes were stored there.

And/or that blowing up of the entrances cannot eventually be dug through to get at the nukes within and get them out.

It is interesting to note that Kirana Hills was not a declared nuclear facility.

There is also the matter of their various enrichment facilities and reactors through which they can eventually make new nukes.

Even if the old ones were destroyed. Some or all.

Remember, nukes have a shelf life. Its not as simple as making them in 1990s and then forgetting about them. They eventually need to be replaced. All nuke powers do that.

 

[Lulldapull]

Aadi ka paadi.......giving the run down:



Its hard to believe anybody still in denial is just lying to himself.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Aadi ka paadi.......giving the run down:



Its hard to believe anybody still in denial is just lying to himself.

I'd like very much to believe it but itna damage and losses, jo ye bol raha hai, usko how can you keep hidden ?

1 il76 tanker, 1 saab erieye whatever awacs, 4 f16, 1 mirage, 1 hq9 battery ??

bin saboot nahi maan skte, ye bhi view/subs ki farming kar ra hai.

 

[Vsdoc]

I'd like very much to believe it but itna damage and losses, jo ye bol raha hai, usko how can you keep hidden ?

1 il76 tanker, 1 saab erieye whatever awacs, 4 f16, 1 mirage, 1 hq9 battery ??

bin saboot nahi maan skte, ye bhi view/subs ki farming kar ra hai.

Fk all that. Do you deny any of the targets hit?

Its not only what was hit.

Its that it WAS hit. And Pakistan could neither prevent nor retaliate.

Paradigm shift. Boiling frog. Janta deluded. Boil more. BLA hitting. Taliban hitting. Boil more.

Frog sitting only. Boiling. Temperature rising. Not jumping.

Cannot jump.

To jump you need weaponry. Money.

It is not just telling that they used 2 ballistic missiles.

But that they used only two. Even after they were intercepted, no further barrage.

Each missile is probably the municipal budget of one of their cities.

They could not even sustain a 4 day war with engagement of only one arm.

 

[Vsdoc]

I'd like very much to believe it but itna damage and losses, jo ye bol raha hai, usko how can you keep hidden ?

1 il76 tanker, 1 saab erieye whatever awacs, 4 f16, 1 mirage, 1 hq9 battery ??

bin saboot nahi maan skte, ye bhi view/subs ki farming kar ra hai.

You've spent so much time on JC, that you've started thinking like them.

Stop your banya ginti. Let authentic banyas like Guru do that.

Think strategic. Think like a bamman.

Chanakya niti.

Not like a teli. Like you know who.

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Fk all that. Do you deny any of the targets hit?

Its not only what was hit.

Its that it WAS hit. And Pakistan could neither prevent nor retaliate.

Paradigm shift. Boiling frog. Janta deluded. Boil more. BLA hitting. Taliban hitting. Boil more.

Frog sitting only. Boiling. Temperature rising. Not jumping.

Cannot jump.

To jump you need weaponry. Money.

It is not just telling that they used 2 ballistic missiles.

But that they used only two. Even after they were intercepted, no further barrage.

Each missile is probably the municipal budget of one of their cities.

They could not even sustain a 4 day war with engagement of only one arm.

One or two questions:

1. Does Pakistan's general public know that Pakistan was badly beaten?

2. If no, when will Pakistan's general public start realising it? 1965, 1999, 2019 and 2025: All conflicts were painted as Pakistan's victories. When will Pakistan's general public start sensing the truth?

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Not like a teli. Like you know who.

Who is like teli?

@Sharma Ji

 

[Vsdoc]

One or two questions:

1. Does Pakistan's general public know that Pakistan was badly beaten?

2. If no, when will Pakistan's general public start realising it? 1965, 1999, 2019 and 2025: All conflicts were painted as Pakistan's victories. When will Pakistan's general public start sensing the truth?

I can tell you what my parents told me of 1971. The fear was palpable. I was a few months old. My dad was at work. Mum was at home alone with me. Complete blackout. Windowpanes with paper/cardboard stuck on them. Air raid sirens.

Now imagine what goes theough the mind of Pakistanis when they see fire from the sky, and the final terminal scream of a missile, and then the spectacular detonation on their most guarded high value sites.

Sites which 99% of them must never have been allowed into.

And here the enemy is reaching out and touching you.

Again and again. Loud. Bright. At night.

No amount of propaganda is going to defeat the viral fear on the ground. Fear helplessness.

A d soon anger and resentment.

When their internal enemies keep hitting them.

And failed generals become Field Marshals .

 

[Sharma Ji]

Fk all that. Do you deny any of the targets hit?

Its not only what was hit.

Its that it WAS hit. And Pakistan could neither prevent nor retaliate.

Paradigm shift. Boiling frog. Janta deluded. Boil more. BLA hitting. Taliban hitting. Boil more.

Frog sitting only. Boiling. Temperature rising. Not jumping.

Cannot jump.

To jump you need weaponry. Money.

It is not just telling that they used 2 ballistic missiles.

But that they used only two. Even after they were intercepted, no further barrage.

Each missile is probably the municipal budget of one of their cities.

They could not even sustain a 4 day war with engagement of only one arm.

Oh sure, we did a full presser here with BDA sat pics clearly showing collapsed hangar domes and radar sites hit, uska no doubt.

but ye, itne saare f16s + mirages + tanker + awacs <- inka saboot wala hisab baaki hai.

like I said, I'd really really love to believe but am choosing to err on the side of caution and not celebrate those, not just yet anyway.

baaki you're right, navy no action, army also limited arty exchange.

 

[Sharma Ji]

just so you know, I've quit JC, place is a cesspool.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Who is like teli?

@Sharma Ji

Nilgiri, I think.