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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India

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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India
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Short Summary: The remarks come two days after India and Pakistan announced halting of military action from both sides, following the Indian DGMO being approached his Pakistani counterpart amid the intensifying conflict between the two nuclear-powered countries.
Lull pai, suing for surrender would be the best option.

Eventually Pakistan ka wohi hona hai jo Russia Ukraine ka kar raha hai bhai.

Our people do not need to die like that.

Indians anyways have always shown they do not jave the DNA to go mongol.

Dhando and ekanami will prevail.

Water will flow.

Dams will be built. Schools. IITs. Hospitals.

You lost your bamman brains with partition. Those we used.

Pakistan is always was and always will be an artificial construct.

No matter how you game it, a crash land is inevitable.
Museebat akhir ko aa he gaee na doc?......bud hawaas ho ker western parrosion key taraf bhaagay no?

Did you notice dat?

Dat is a very keen observation of mine.......

Dill ko sukoon nahi mill ra doc......jhootti US aur uss k pitthu China key tasaliyon say no??

I'm goin deep here.......you know k we've taken a mortal hit......despite US and pitthu China backing.

Confidence k lund lugg gaey na ab........
 
During IK's time there was this very apparent strategic shift he was trying to get done.. away from west and into China's lap, full.

Bajwa sb, then COAS, and the rest of the top brass ko bilkul hazam nahi hui ye cheez.. ki ab retire kahan honge ? .. clearly, they prefer California and Florida to Xinjiang or Shenzen :P
China don't want to own us bhai.......They know better......

lenay k denay purr jaen gay China ko.
 
Museebat akhir ko aa he gaee na doc?......bud hawaas ho ker western parrosion key taraf bhaagay no?

Did you notice dat?

Dat is a very keen observation of mine.......

Dill ko sukoon nahi mill ra doc......jhootti US aur uss k pitthu China key tasaliyon say no??

I'm goin deep here.......you know k we've taken a mortal hit......despite US and pitthu China backing.

Confidence k lund lugg gaey na ab........

Yup. Jab maut aati hai, bhai ko khojte hain.

Not burger or chowmein.
 
Gents, horrid details of the reality are surfacing every other day now. I knew two weeks ago, we've been had and it was over.

Sharmeela honay say ab kuchh ne hona and anybody in denial is just sadly lying to himself.

We need to accept our failure and learn from it:



@Sharma Ji @Paitoo @Vsdoc @Krishna with Flute @Bilal9 @Saif @PakistanProud @RayKalm

We need to have a frank chat with the Iranis and get their proven/ tested weaponry.......ab aur koi chara nahi bacha. Its really a fukked up time for us.


Every military conflict has a take away of its own. The biggest take away of this conflict was that how Chinese weapons will perform in actual conflict. Whole world was watching that with lots of eagerness. China was emerging as an alternate of west so far as weapon supply was concerned. India was not considered as a big player in this area. This 4 day conflict established that Chinese weapons are far inferior to what they were advertised. Chinese BMD and AD performance was totally a disaster. India knew that it can take those Chinese systems with Brahmos strike. However, Brahmos strike was not needed as low cost drones did it duty.

India's AD and BMD performed far beyond the expectation. It hit the targets with far batter accuracy than anything to date what world has seen. To date, what best what was seen was iron dome performing against Hamas and Hizballah rocket. Indian systems performed far batter on a long border with far batter efficacy protecting much larger theater. None of the missile fired or drone fired could reach the target. All of them were taken out with minimum cost and almost Zero collateral damage. The only thing to take consolation on the part of Pakistan was that It could make some harm to Indian aircrafts. It is believed to have been caused by F 16 missile with the help of SAAB AWA&C. India dominated overwhelmingly. Brahmos was superstar so as Akash, MRSAM and S 400.

This conflict established India as a very reliable defense stuff manufacturer. Chinese weapons exposed completely. Some experts in US are saying now that US need to learn from India for low cost solutions of defense stuff rather than making those costly impractical weapons.

What India has bought to table is something unique, specific, low cost and effective. This small conflict advertised Indian weapons like anything and which could not have been done by spending a big big amount. Armenia is very happy. China, Azarbaijan and Turkey are worried. Turkey is very much worried as its so much advertised drones were shot down very easily like a target practice.

This conflict also proved that India has only one true friend in international diplomacy and that is Israel. US and west are fake friends.

Now India is positioned favorably in relative strength matrix. Coming decade shall be very important. We aim to be a 10 BN USD economy and a great military power.

We are on the verge of developing many next generation technologies which will put India ahead of many countries and just behind US in a decade or 2 to come. Laser, Scramjet and other technologies. We have achieved a great sensor fusion capability unique in many way in the form of Akash Teer. What we have to do is to keep voting nationalist government to power and rest of the things will be taken care automatically. Indian Hindus are doing great wherever they are. Things are happening our favor in big way. It is nothing but the reward paid by almighty for being fair and honest. Mahakal Ki kripa hai. Nothing else.
 
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It looks like mushroom. I do not know what secondary mushroom is.
secondary explosion

ek to aapne jo bomb feka hai uska primary explosion

and if you hit their ammo storage or something, then waha ka explosion would be secondary

anyway, I doubt nukes work this way.. its not barood.. ye nahi na, ki maachis ki teeli le kat garam kar do to phat jaega :LOL:
 
Hmm, not an expert but.. how ?

I imagine the first dhamaka will make smithereens of the dabba its cased in, no ? Kis cheez ka secondary karoge fir ?
Lots of stuff on the net.

In effect you get a dirty bomb.

Worst case, you get a very powerful dirty bomb.

Both do bad stuff to soil air and people. For a very long time. And it does not remain localised.
 
Lots of stuff on the net.

In effect you get a dirty bomb.

Worst case, you get a very powerful dirty bomb.

Both do bad stuff to soil air and people. For a very long time. And it does not remain localised.
Hmm, Chernobyl still has those huge encased buildings and an exclusion zone around it.

Tour pe bhi jaate hain log, under supervision of course, Geiger counters clickity-clacking away like mad in some spots.

 
Gents, horrid details of the reality are surfacing every other day now. I knew two weeks ago, we've been had and it was over.

Sharmeela honay say ab kuchh ne hona and anybody in denial is just sadly lying to himself.

We need to accept our failure and learn from it:



@Sharma Ji @Paitoo @Vsdoc @Krishna with Flute @Bilal9 @Saif @PakistanProud @RayKalm

We need to have a frank chat with the Iranis and get their proven/ tested weaponry.......ab aur koi chara nahi bacha. Its really a fukked up time for us.


No you are wrong. Pakistan has declared its victory. Moonir is promoted to field marshal. All is good. No need to change.
 

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