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First of all there is nothing like India. It is officially Bharat now.
Favourite argument of leftist who either do not know the history of this nation or they try their so called intellectual gimic to distract innocent people. Now, this is answered on different forum by many intellectuals.
Its always been India and Bharat.

Ecosystem chutyape na kar.

Please talk with facts.

Name me ONE 500 year period when what we know as modern India was a single nation.

Easy to do bakwas on the internet.

Any uneducated jahil with Jio can do.

Are you uneducated jahil with Jio?
 
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Ek period gina de Krishna.
 
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Remember Krishna, mai sirf 500 saal pooch raha hun.

Na ki tera 5000 saal wala hawaii dhishkyauuunnnn.
 
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Its always been India and Bharat.

Ecosystem chutyape na kar.

Please talk with facts.

Name me ONE 500 year period when what we know as modern India was a single nation.

Easy to do bakwas on the internet.

Any uneducated jahil with Jio can do.

Are you uneducated jahil with Jio?

The way you have reacted to do normal debate shows who is Jahil. Wait, I will answer it after reaching the office.
 
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Ok I am jahil.

But you are uneducated.

Let us debate on topic and let people decide who is uneducated on subject matter. Fair enough?
 
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You made a claim.

I asked you to back up 10% of it.

Over to you sir.
 
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Its always been India and Bharat.

Ecosystem chutyape na kar.

Please talk with facts.

Name me ONE 500 year period when what we know as modern India was a single nation.

Easy to do bakwas on the internet.

Any uneducated jahil with Jio can do.

Are you uneducated jahil with Jio?

Doctor Saheb,

I am providing references now which shows India as a nation (a Cultural identity) know as Bharat for thousands of years.

1) VIshnu Puran Referances:
เค‰เคคเฅเคคเคฐเค‚ เคฏเคคเฅเคธเคฎเฅเคฆเฅเคฐเคธเฅเคฏ เคนเคฟเคฎเคพเคฆเฅเคฐเฅ‡เคถเฅเคšเฅˆเคต เคฆเค•เฅเคทเคฟเคฃเคฎเฅ เฅค
เคตเคฐเฅเคทเค‚ เคคเคฆเฅ เคญเคพเคฐเคคเค‚ เคจเคพเคฎ เคญเคพเคฐเคคเฅ€ เคฏเคคเฅเคฐ เคธเค‚เคคเคคเคฟเคƒ เฅคเฅค
he land north of the ocean and south of the Himalayas is called Bharat, where the descendants of Bharata live.โ€
2) เคคเคคเคถเฅเคš เคญเคพเคฐเคคเค‚ เคตเคฐเฅเคทเคฎเฅ‡เคคเคฒเฅเคฒเฅ‹เค•เฅ‡เคทเฅเค—เฅ€เคฏเคคเฅ‡
เคญเคฐเคคเคพเคฏ เคฏเคค: เคชเคฟเคคเฅเคฐเคพ เคฆเคคเฅเคคเค‚ เคชเฅเคฐเคคเคฟเคทเฅเค เคฟเคคเคพ เคตเคจเคฎ (เคตเคฟเคทเฅเคฃเฅ เคชเฅเคฐเคพเคฃ, เฅจ,เฅง,เฅฉเฅจ)
This country is known as Bharatavarsha since the times the father entrusted the kingdom to the son Bharata and he himself went to the forest for ascetic practices.
This means that country was there even before Bharat whose Name changed after Bharat became the king.

Mahabharata (c. 5000 BCE)


  • Uses Bharata Varsha repeatedly.
  • Describes pilgrimages across the entire subcontinent.
  • Kings from Gandhara to Kanyakumari attend common events.

Pan-Indian Sacred Geography (Cultural Unity)​


Pilgrimage Circuit (very ancient)

  • Char Dham: Badrinath, Dwarka, Puri, Rameswaram
  • 12 Jyotirlingas
  • 51 Shakti Peethas

Shakti Peeths are there in Current Day Pakistan and Bangladesh as well.
Adi Shankra Established 4 peets across India 2500 years ago.

Adi Shankaracharya (8th century CE)


  • Established four Mathas in:
    • North (Badrinath)
    • South (Sringeri)
    • East (Puri)
    • West (Dwarka)
Foreign Sources:

Greek Sources

  • Herodotus (5th century BCE) โ€“ โ€œIndiaโ€ as a distinct land and people
  • Megasthenes (Indica) โ€“ describes India as one civilizational entity

Chinese Pilgrims:

  • Fa-Hien (5th century CE)
  • Xuanzang / Hiuen Tsang (7th century CE)
They refer to:
  • A single land called โ€œYin-Tuโ€ / โ€œTianzhuโ€
  • โ€œTianzhuโ€ is a phonetic transcription of the Sanskrit word โ€œSindhuโ€ / โ€œHindu.โ€Tianzhu = India (as a civilization and land)
  • Shared customs, dharma, learning centers

Key Chinese Texts:​

  • Han Dynasty records (2nd century BCE onward)
  • Buddhist scriptures translated into Chinese
  • Travelogues of monks:
    • Fa-Hien (ๆณ•ๆ˜พ) โ€“ 5th century CE
    • Xuanzang (็Ž„ๅฅ˜) โ€“ 7th century CE
They consistently use Tianzhu to refer to:
  • The entire Indian subcontinent
  • Land of the Buddha
  • A unified culturalโ€“religious space

Arabโ€“Persian Writers

  • Al-Biruni (11th century):

    โ€œThe Hindus differ in political kings, but their religion, science, literature, and customs are one.โ€
 
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