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[Lulldapull]

Are you forgetting the Mughals?

No bhai, Mughals were central Asian people. They largely kept to themselves and just fleeced the fuuck out of our subcontinent. Just a foreign invader dynasty ruling over us ghareeb. They were backed by Iran, spoke Persian and had Irani intellectuals as their advisors/ intelligentsia and were very racist to our people. Their armies were all Irani Afghani Uzbek/ Tajik log and they never talked to our people.
At least I'm being honest bhai.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Completely wrong and we recognise the sign of bullshit Hindutva narrative losing when words like leftist, commie, etc. start to come in.

China. A nation for most of its history.

Persia/Iran. A nation for most of it history.

Greece. An ancient nation state.

Rome. An ancient nation state.

Russia. A nation for most of its history.

Egypt. A nation for most of its history.

India, like Europe, like South America, has never ever been a single nation for most of its history.

You continue to confuse geography and a civilization with nationhood.

This is common obfuscation of the Hindu revisionist brain.

So mahabharat name was given by sanghis 7000 years ago, location of Bharat as mentioned mentioned in vishnu pran was written by Sanghis. When commies argue, they put their brain in cold storage.

 

[Vsdoc]

Last guy to unite the country was Ashok, and that was 2000 years ago doc. And because of him, the Indians use his 3 headed lion as a National symbol.

40 years.

Not 5000.

 

[Vsdoc]

Are you forgetting the Mughals?

Nobody is forgetting the Mughals.

Already mentioned in my list.

Before the Marathas and the British.

Point is clear.

Mauryas.

Guptas.

Mughals

Marathas.

British.

Add them all together, you wont total more than 700 years of pan India dominion.

Even that will not be close to modern India in terms of borders. With much of the south and north east not included.

So this "nation for 5000 years" is a load of Hindutva crock.

Sorry. You were never a nation.

You were a civilization state.

You were a geographic entity.

You were NEVER a nation.

 

[Afhan]

No bhai, Mughals were central Asian people. They largely kept to themselves and just fleeced the fuuck out of our subcontinent. Just a foreign invader dynasty ruling over us ghareeb. They were backed by Iran, spoke Persian and had Irani intellectuals as their advisors/ intelligentsia and were very racist to our people. Their armies were all Irani Afghani Uzbek/ Tajik log and they never talked to our people.
At least I'm being honest bhai.

Nobody is forgetting the Mughals.

Already mentioned in my list.

Before the Marathas and the British.

Point is clear.

Mauryas.

Guptas.

Mughals

Marathas.

British.

Add them all together, you wont total more than 700 years of pan India dominion.

Even that will not be close to modern India in terms of borders. With much of the south and north east not included.

So this "nation for 5000 years" is a load of Hindutva crock.

Sorry. You were never a nation.

You were a civilization state.

You were a geographic entity.

You were NEVER a nation.

Here here doc

 

[Vsdoc]

Same is true for India or what you say about other nation is wrong.

No it is most definitely not true for India.

No central rule or single ruler.

No single political entity.

No single flag.

No single central army.

People never identified as one and fought a common enemy under one banner.

You fail all the basics of a nation state.

You are a civilization state. Much as Europe is a western civilization state.

Of multiple nations.

Races. Ethnicities. Languages.

 

[Vsdoc]

You said:​

Which were main empires of India in the time of Aurangzeb

ChatGPT said:​

During the time of Aurangzeb (r. 1658–1707), India was politically dominated mainly by the Mughal Empire, but several strong regional powers existed or emerged during his reign. Here are the main empires and major powers of that period:

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1. Mughal Empire (Largest Power)​

• Aurangzeb ruled almost the entire Indian subcontinent.
• The empire extended from Afghanistan to Tamil Nadu and from Bengal to Gujarat.
• It was the largest Mughal Empire in history in terms of land area.

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2. Maratha Empire (Rising Power)​

• Led initially by Shivaji Maharaj (coronated in 1674).
• After Shivaji, the Marathas expanded rapidly under leaders like Sambhaji, Rajaram, and Tarabai.
• Became the main military challenger to Aurangzeb.
• Fought the long 27-year Mughal–Maratha war (1680–1707).

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3. Ahom Kingdom (Assam)​

• An old northeastern kingdom, never fully conquered by the Mughals.
• Famous Battle of Saraighat (1671) where Lachit Borphukan defeated the Mughal army.

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4. Sikh Confederacy (Later Sikh Empire Seeds)​

• Under Guru Gobind Singh, rising political-military power (Khalsa founded in 1699).
• Not yet an empire, but a major resistance force in Punjab.
• Later became the Sikh Empire under Maharaja Ranjit Singh (much later).

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5. Rajput Kingdoms​

Rajputana had several strong states:

• Mewar (Udaipur)
• Marwar (Jodhpur)
• Amber (Jaipur)
  Some cooperated with Mughals, some rebelled (notably Mewar & Marwar).

These were not “empires,” but powerful regional kingdoms.

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6. Bijapur Sultanate​

• Ruled by the Adil Shahi dynasty.
• Strong Deccan Sultanate until Aurangzeb annexed it in 1686.

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7. Golconda Sultanate​

• Ruled by the Qutb Shahi dynasty.
• Extremely rich (Kohinoor diamond mines) until annexed by Aurangzeb in 1687.

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Summary Table​

Region	Name	Status during Aurangzeb
North India	Mughal Empire	Dominant empire
Western India	Maratha Empire	Rising power, major opponent
South India	Bijapur & Golconda	Independent until 1686–87, then annexed
Rajasthan	Rajput Kingdoms	Partly allied, partly rebellious
Punjab	Sikhs (Guru Gobind Singh)	Growing military resistance
Northeast	Ahom Kingdom

No bhai, Mughals were central Asian people. They largely kept to themselves and just fleeced the fuuck out of our subcontinent. Just a foreign invader dynasty ruling over us ghareeb. They were backed by Iran, spoke Persian and had Irani intellectuals as their advisors/ intelligentsia and were very racist to our people. Their armies were all Irani Afghani Uzbek/ Tajik log and they never talked to our people.
At least I'm being honest bhai.

Doesnt matter.

Mughal India still qualifies as a nation state. At least the later ones who were Indian born.

 

[Vsdoc]

So mahabharat name was given by sanghis 7000 years ago, location of Bharat as mentioned mentioned in vishnu pran was written by Sanghis. When commies argue, they put their brain in cold storage.

There was definitely a Bharat. Who is denying that?

It was a geographical construct.

A loose cultural construct, basis the native (mixed with imported Vedic) religion.

It was not a nation.