[🇦🇫] Pakistan watches with caution as old ally Taliban gets closer to India

[Dogun18]

Date of Event: Jan 13, 2025

Source : https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/13/pakistan-watches-with-caution-as-old-ally-taliban-gets-closer-to-india Short Summary: While some analysts say Pakistan need not worry, others warn that Indian influence in Afghanistan could further strain Islamabad’s ties with Kabul amid existing tensions.

Islamabad, Pakistan – When the Taliban took over Kabul in August 2021, then-Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan famously said the Afghan group had “broken the shackles of slavery” as they returned to power for the first time since 2001.

Taliban’s ascension was seen as a boost to the regional influence of Pakistan, long regarded as the patron of the Afghan group in pursuit of “strategic depth” for Islamabad.

This doctrine reflected Pakistan’s military interest in maintaining a strategic hold over Afghanistan through the Taliban and using it as leverage against India, its traditional adversary.

Three years later, that calculation appears to have flopped, instead leaving Pakistan’s officials fuming at ties with Kabul even as the Taliban edges closer to an unlikely partner: India.

India’s Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri met acting Afghan Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in Dubai last week, marking the highest-profile public engagement between New Delhi and the Taliban. That meeting followed a series of steps taken by both sides that suggest a dramatic break from a quarter century of animus and distrust rooted in Pakistan’s support of the Taliban.

 

[Lulldapull]

Yeah........a sombre sigh from us is all we can say about Afghanistan. Total waste of our time and resources. And Iran don't wanna touch em either because they are basically hateful ethnic fascists.

 

[Guru Dutt]

Pakistan started making trouble in Afghanistan way back after supporting these crazy Tribal mullahs against the liberal and western progressive regimes that were ruling afghanistan in mid 1970s so to get STRATEGIC DEAPTH against India in Future WAR after humiliating defete in 1971 WAR

now even Saudies& its allies like UAE, Bahrain , Quatar & Kuwait did not wanted Central Asian Crude and Irani or Iraqi crude to be sold in indiaernation markets hence they found it intersteing prospect to fund insurgency in afghanistan to control central asia and iran collectivelly

whileWar funded by OIL Rich Arab Nations it was great money making prospect for corrupt pakistani Civil & jeudicarry related beurocracy and its Military and political elite

and for that they sold DEOBANDI & WAHABBI ISLAM to Pakhtoons & Punjabies so they could reject there more accomudating Tribal Pkhtoonwalli code and sufi islam of punjab and result of the same after almost 50 years and two genrations in highly intoxicated and confused and intollerrent genrations who niether know about there past nor have any future plan and only think Jihad and Shaaddat & akhtrat is the only reason for a true muslim and for that they have made there nation and Afghanistan hell

so now Afghans blame Pakistanies and specially Punjabi pakistanies and PAK FAUJ for the current situation in Afghanistan even though pakistan first made an enemy in USSSR/Russia and then USA & NATO nations for same Tallibunnies who are hell bent to wipe off pakistanies from face off the earth

MIYA KI JUTTI MIYA KE SIR

NA TU KARWAA/Democracy& devlopment in Pakistan HI MILLA NA WASAL E SANAM/Ummah ki Thekkdaarri NA IDHAR/Indian sub continent KE RAHE NA UDHAR/US or Russia-China camp KE AL BHIKARISTANI .....

 

[Sharma Ji]

caution or trepidation ?

Hindi - Afghani bhai bhai !

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Taliban had repeatedly said that they don't consider India and enemy even when India was helping Northern alliance government. Pakistan thought that they can use Taliban for their geopolitical interest but , Taliban used them rather till US was on Afghanistan soil. Soon as US left Afghanistan and Taliban came to power, they started settling the score with Pakistan.

 

[steppeWolff]

Taliban had repeatedly said that they don't consider India and enemy

Yes please. Keep believing that

 

[Mainerik]

@Krishna with Flute

 

[Vsdoc]

 

[Vsdoc]

 

[Vsdoc]

Yes please. Keep believing that

Congratulations on declaration of Independence.

We will recognise the nation of Balochistan next, after the Taliban.

 

[Vsdoc]

@Jiangnan

How much has your side invested in Bagram?

 

[Lulldapull]

Doc hamara hashar dekh bhai......sub k saamnay putloon uttar dee hae, this ain't right.

Ghareeb ko ab kya iss tarha bay izzat karna yaar?

Trump nay hamain bachaa liya doc, vurna 2 ya 3 din aur......hum to waqaee gaey thay!!!!

This is horrible man because we haven't done jack shiit in Pehlgaam either. Economic haalat dekho hamari....

How I see dis bhai is k India sensed extreme weakness aur India hum per charrh dorra.....

Sharma knows this too, and dis my theory.

 

[Vsdoc]

Doc hamara hashar dekh bhai......sub k saamnay putloon uttar dee hae, this ain't right.

Ghareeb ko ab kya iss tarha bay izzat karna yaar?

Trump nay hamain bachaa liya doc, vurna 2 ya 3 din aur......hum to waqaee gaey thay!!!!

This is horrible man because we haven't done jack shiit in Pehlgaam either. Economic haalat dekho hamari....

How I see dis bhai is k India sensed extreme weakness aur India hum per charrh dorra.....

Sharma knows this too, and dis my theory.

Bhai jhooth nahin bolunga.

9th night der se soya.

Paani peene ke liye utha. Kutte tamasha kar rahe the. Checked on them. Came back inside. Did susu, before getting back in bed.

Around 330-4 am. 10 tareekh ki subah.

Checked my phone. The Indian bharat forum.

O bc!

Made coffee. Watched most of the hits live.

Ayesha bibi. Andar chalo ....

Alla alla alla alla ...

Paijaan nur khan base pe attack hia hai.

Majja aa gaya bhai.

Fak. So gutted when we pulled the pin.

Was at my college rock show (Agni) with my kids and their friends when the news came in ...

Rond ke rakh dena tha tumhare mulk ko.

 

[Lulldapull]

Bhai jhooth nahin bolunga.

9th night der se soya.

Paani peene ke liye utha. Kutte tamasha kar rahe the. Checked on them. Came back inside. Did susu, before getting back in bed.

Around 330-4 am. 10 tareekh ki subah.

Checked my phone. The Indian bharat forum.

O bc!

Made coffee. Watched most of the hits live.

Ayesha bibi. Andar chalo ....

Alla alla alla alla ...

Paijaan nur khan base pe attack hia hai.

Majja aa gaya bhai.

Fak. So gutted when we pulled the pin.

Was at my college rock show (Agni) with my kids and their friends when the news came in ...

Rond ke rakh dena tha tumhare mulk ko.

Doc......bhai ye sahih nahi hae iss tarha sub k saamnay beizzati ker dena.......

I'm just wondering k what triggered dis?

You know trump nay hamain bacha liya, or else we were fukking done!

I'm not ashamed to say it, cuz we can't hide this embarrassment no more.

Wtf did we do man?.......hamari haalat dekho, living couple billion bailout every 4 months.

Hamara dimagh kharab hua hae hum pungay laingay?

I think ye sub trump nay karvaya hae.......I gotta bad feeling......china ko nunga karnay k liye.....

 

[Vsdoc]

Doc......bhai ye sahih nahi hae iss tarha sub k saamnay beizzati ker dena.......

I'm just wondering k what triggered dis?

You know trump nay hamain bacha liya, or else we were fukking done!

I'm not ashamed to say it, cuz we can't hide this embarrassment no more.

Wtf did we do man?.......hamari haalat dekho, living couple billion bailout every 4 months.

Hamara dimagh kharab hua hae hum pungay laingay?

I think ye sub trump nay karvaya hae.......I gotta bad feeling......china ko nunga karnay k liye.....

You have a motormouth extremely slimy COAS for one.

He played into our hands.

The Americans are now openly an enemy state. Its just not Doc braying about it to the numbwitted sanghi parade (of Trump mandir fame) anymore.

Israel and to a limited (where the chinks are concerned) extent Russia are the only friends we have now.

Iran is no one's. Only Iran's.

 

[Sharma Ji]

 

[Lulldapull]

You have a motormouth extremely slimy COAS for one.

He played into our hands.

The Americans are now openly an enemy state. Its just not Doc braying about it to the numbwitted sanghi parade (of Trump mandir fame) anymore.

Israel and to a limited (where the chinks are concerned) extent Russia are the only friends we have now.

Iran is no one's. Only Iran's.

Hamain nunga kar diya trump nay India k saath mill kar doc!

Hum zaleel ho gaey hain…..aur China key military industry nungi ho gaeee…..

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran hamain aik hathyaar nahi day ga doc, they are very secretive about their tech……fukk they didn’t even share it with Assad and only gives downgraded things to hoosi’s and even hezb…..

Wishful thinking on my part k hamain kuch day Iran…..

They blunted a full on US and Israeli attack. They’ll never share their ABM or hypersonics or drones with us.

 

[Vsdoc]

Hamain nunga kar diya trump nay India k saath mill kar doc!

Hum zaleel ho gaey hain…..aur China key military industry nungi ho gaeee…..

I dont buy your opinion on the Chinese military industry.

At best you have hardware that is one to two generations old.

They will never give you their best. No country does.

But can the Chinese fight a hot war.

There I have my reservations.

 

[Mainerik]

I dont buy your opinion on the Chinese military industry.

At best you have hardware that is one to two generations old.

They will never give you their best. No country does.

But can the Chinese fight a hot war.

There I have my reservations.

@Jiangnan

 

[Vsdoc]

Iran hamain aik hathyaar nahi day ga doc, they are very secretive about their tech……fukk they didn’t even share it with Assad and only gives downgraded things to hoosi’s and even hezb…..

Wishful thinking on my part k hamain kuch day Iran…..

They blunted a full on US and Israeli attack. They’ll never share their ABM or hypersonics or drones with us.

What I said about the Chinese.

Or anyone else.

 

[Jiangnan]

@Jiangnan

Let's tell a joke, Indians ask if the world's strongest industrial country can fight a hot war?

 

[Vsdoc]

Let's tell a joke, Indians ask if the world's strongest industrial country can fight a hot war?

You guys are essentially a nation now of nerds and workers.

Can you fight?

When did you fight last?

 

[Mainerik]

You guys are essentially a nation now of nerds and workers.

Can you fight?

When did you fight last?

Ten captured Indian soldiers released by China as evidence grows Beijing planned Ladakh ambush

Indian intelligence agencies identified unusual Chinese troop movement as far back as February

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Vsdoc]

@Jiangnan

Plus you are aging fast now.

Remember

It took 4 days to destroy the myth of the Pakistani military might.

When you fall, the crash will be big.

Bigger.

 

[Vsdoc]

Ten captured Indian soldiers released by China as evidence grows Beijing planned Ladakh ambush

Indian intelligence agencies identified unusual Chinese troop movement as far back as February

www.telegraph.co.uk

Yaar bas kar.

Jhande theek se laga.

 

[Lulldapull]

What I said about the Chinese.

Or anyone else.

Issy liye Iran Kuchh nahi khareedta China say except appliances or laptops.

Aik weapon nahi khareeda 30 saal ho gaey bhai.

I guess they just know right….

Aur idher hamain dekho…..80% do numbri China maal aur sub fail…..

Total fail aur saath saath turkish k chutiya drones bhee bilkul junk maal….

Dis a real watershed event bhai. What a disaster for us no?

It’s all over from my pov.

Sub expose ho gya and I wonder who really benefited from this other than the US?

 

[Vsdoc]

Issy liye Iran Kuchh nahi khareedta China say except appliances or laptops.

Aik weapon nahi khareeda 30 saal ho gaey bhai.

I guess they just know right….

Aur idher hamain dekho…..80% do numbri China maal aur sub fail…..

Total fail aur saath saath turkish k chutiya drones bhee bilkul junk maal….

Dis a real watershed event bhai. What a disaster for us no?

It’s all over from my pov.

Sub expose ho gya and I wonder who really benefited from this other than the US?

The turkish drones came as no surprise.

Unless you'd been drinking the jihadi koolaid on the other forum.

The Ukraine war has been going on long enough no Lull bhai?

 

[Vsdoc]

The Turks seriously fkd up big time.

India is often likened to an elephant, when you put an animal to a nation.

Elephants live long, and have really long memories.

 

[Lulldapull]

The turkish drones came as no surprise.

Unless you'd been drinking the jihadi koolaid on the other forum.

The Ukraine war has been going on long enough no Lull bhai?

Abhi kal imam Putin launched literally 500 Irani drones on zalintsky and hundreds dead and infra destroyed and thousands injured.

He’s doing it every week now doc…..I mean kuttay billi key tarha maar ra hae imam Putin it’s a blood bath bhai.

Bilkul pagal ho gya hae Putin. He’s totally ruthless man and Iran even double his ruthlessness dabaa k drones day raha hae Iran…..

It’s a massacre there bhai.

Ye sub India Pakistan are puppu chickunn in front of these iranis and Russian log…..hazaron ko maar daaltay hain vo log doc, we could never do anything like that.

 

[Vsdoc]

Abhi kal imam Putin launched literally 500 Irani drones on zalintsky and hundreds dead and infra destroyed and thousands injured.

He’s doing it every week now doc…..I mean kuttay billi key tarha maar ra hae imam Putin it’s a blood bath bhai.

Bilkul pagal ho gya hae Putin. He’s totally ruthless man and Iran even double his ruthlessness dabaa k drones day raha hae Iran…..

It’s a massacre there bhai.

Ye sub India Pakistan are puppu chickunn in front of these iranis and Russian log…..hazaron ko maar daaltay hain vo log doc, we could never do anything like that.

This is the bottom line between India Pakistan.

We lack the genetics to go mongol on each other's population.

Partition also was a continental level communal riot. Nothing more.

 

[Mainerik]

This is the bottom line between India Pakistan.

We lack the genetics to go mongol on each other's population.

Partition also was a continental level communal riot. Nothing more.

Lack the genetics to go mongols? Pakistanis are winning and dominating both Indians and Afghans at boxing and ufc/mma by a long shots..

 

[Vsdoc]

Lack the genetics to go mongols? Pakistanis are winning and dominating both Indians and Afghans at boxing and ufc/mma by a long shots..

Bhai, our Muslims are best used for peeling potatoes by the ISIS when they risk life and family and go there to fight.

The subcontinent has always been a land blessed with plenty.

The best fighters in the world come from crapall lands.

Jinke paas ghar par kuch nahin hota. Aur sabki bund mein ghuste hain.

 

[Mainerik]

Bhai, our Muslims are best used for peeling potatoes by the ISIS when they risk life and family and go there to fight.

The subcontinent has always been a land blessed with plenty.

The best fighters in the world come from crapall lands.

Jinke paas ghar par kuch nahin hota. Aur sabki bund mein ghuste hain.

Yes but Pakistanis are a fighting nation. 100s million of Pakistanis will fight for their country and they are strong. Stronger than many Middle Easterners!

 

[Vsdoc]

Yes but Pakistanis are a fighting nation. 100s million of Pakistanis will fight for their country and they are strong. Stronger than many Middle Easterners!

We have the numbers.

Man on man we are probably not in the top 20 of world fighters.

 

[Lulldapull]

Lack the genetics to go mongols? Pakistanis are winning and dominating both Indians and Afghans at boxing and ufc/mma by a long shots..

Oh bhai we got humbled just a few days ago. And every one took notice no? Clear as day now that the fog of war has cleared out.

Not only did India violate our sovereignty but it also totally trashed our nuclear deterrent or what’s left of it.

Dont be surprised if China gets asked now to remove nukes from Pakistan and secure them on its territory.

You need to understand the gravity of the situation.

 

[Vsdoc]

Oh bhai we got humbled just a few days ago. And every one took notice no? Clear as day now that the fog of war has cleared out.

Not only did India violate our sovereignty but it also totally trashed our nuclear deterrent or what’s left of it.

Dont be surprised if China gets asked now to remove nukes from Pakistan and secure them on its territory.

You need to understand the gravity of the situation.

I am genuinely worried about the radiation moving to our norther and north western population.

Land. Water. Air.

No one is saying anything yet.

I hope our nuclear strategic command that looks at spills and accidents is on the ball.

Kirana Hills us literally 400 km from Chandigarh.

I can ride there in less than half a day on my bike.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Yes please. Keep believing that

Where is the question of believing? Taliban has said that repeatedly and India and Taliban has very good relations.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I am genuinely worried about the radiation moving to our norther and north western population.

Land. Water. Air.

No one is saying anything yet.

I hope our nuclear strategic command that looks at spills and accidents is on the ball.

Kirana Hills us literally 400 km from Chandigarh.

I can ride there in less than half a day on my bike.

You seem to be a bike enthuse. However, go somewhere else and avoid going there.

 

[Vsdoc]

You seem to be a bike enthuse. However, go somewhere else and avoid going there.

Ji motabhai

 

[Lulldapull]

Where is the question of believing? Taliban has said that repeatedly and India and Taliban has very good relations.

Indians are not our genetic or biological enemies at all.

Our real enemy is the afghani!

Dis I know.

Indian Pakistani overseas stay very happily with one another. No problems….

Same culturally and even linguistically so no real dramay.

Afghani say Hamari nahi banti bhai. They just hate us!

 

[Vsdoc]

It is exclusive to Pakistan. Let them enjoy that. After all it is an Islamic radiation.

Bhai it was a serious post.

Im a medical doctor in my day job.

And Chernobyl and Fukushima were not fiction.

There is literally zero natural barriers between them and us.

And eventually, none will stop radiation poisoning of the land and groundwater.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Bhai it was a serious post.

Im a medical doctor in my day job.

And Chernobyl and Fukushima were not fiction.

There is literally zero natural barriers between them and us.

And eventually, none will stop radiation poisoning of the land and groundwater.

Deleted.

 

[steppeWolff]

Congratulations on declaration of Independence.

We will recognise the nation of Balochistan next, after the Taliban.

Doc you are a funny guy. Ive to give you that.

 

[steppeWolff]

Afghani say Hamari nahi banti bhai. They just hate us!

Its mutual.
If both sides work on it, we can have brotherly relations and our western flank secure. From Chitral to Chaman, people on both sides are the same and daily crossover. Tajiks of Badakshan and Khos of Chitral are very close with each other, people of North Balochistan and South Afghanistan ( Kandhar, Helmand ) are same. Same tribes, same dialects etc.

We already have a massive enemy on our East. We can't be having enemies on our Western flank too.

 

[Mainerik]

Its mutual.
If both sides work on it, we can have brotherly relations and our western flank secure. From Chitral to Chaman, people on both sides are the same and daily crossover. Tajiks of Badakshan and Khos of Chitral are very close with each other, people of North Balochistan and South Afghanistan ( Kandhar, Helmand ) are same. Same tribes, same dialects etc.

We already have a massive enemy on our East. We can't be having enemies on our Western flank too.

Did you not see the amount of support half of them gave to India to overrun us during our latest issue?

 

[steppeWolff]

Did you not see the amount of support half of them gave to India to overrun us during our latest issue?

I did on social media. But the nature of social media is such that you dont know who actually is behind an account. I caught a fake Afghan in some other platform too.

In real life, alot of Afghans were supporting Pakistan and alot ( mostly overseas Afghans were not ). Its a mixed bag.

But tell me this, is it sustainable having enemies on two fronts?

 

[Lulldapull]

Its mutual.
If both sides work on it, we can have brotherly relations and our western flank secure. From Chitral to Chaman, people on both sides are the same and daily crossover. Tajiks of Badakshan and Khos of Chitral are very close with each other, people of North Balochistan and South Afghanistan ( Kandhar, Helmand ) are same. Same tribes, same dialects etc.

We already have a massive enemy on our East. We can't be having enemies on our Western flank too.

Did you see Bilal bhai's (Quwa) post battle report?

We gotta move all our military infra/ Surveillance deep into KPK/ Balochistan, way west of the indus.

There is just no reaction time bro against India.

If we don't do this, India will repeat another May 7th. Modi is already threatening it. They know we are vulnerable on our AB's.

Yesterday the Uki's destroyed all of Russian 'heavy bomber' fleet with saw rupay waali drones, launched from sabzi mandi fruit truck.

Its amazing how fast every things changing.

 

[Mainerik]

I did on social media. But the nature of social media is such that you dont know who actually is behind an account. I caught a fake Afghan in some other platform too.

In real life, alot of Afghans were supporting Pakistan and alot ( mostly overseas Afghans were not ). Its a mixed bag.

But tell me this, is it sustainable having enemies on two fronts?

Of course it isn't but that's the entire point. They were the only country not ro recognize Pakistan in 1947 - and many do and did have dreams of Indja destroying us and 'retaking' this land so they can form akhand bharat and greater loy Afghanistan.


@Krishna with Flute @Paitoo

 

[Lulldapull]

Of course it isn't but that's the entire point. They were the only country not ro recognize Pakistan in 1947 - and many do and did have dreams of Indja destroying us and 'retaking' this land so they can form akhand bharat and greater loy Afghanistan.


@Krishna with Flute @Paitoo

Oh bhai the US almost 2 decade stay in Afghanistan has poisoned the minds of Pashto speakers too. We naively believed that only the badmash Kabuli's hated us.

Now the Afghani pashto mind is also poisoned.

Thanks to humreeka!