[🇦🇫] Pakistan watches with caution as old ally Taliban gets closer to India

[Lulldapull]

Where is the question of believing? Taliban has said that repeatedly and India and Taliban has very good relations.

Indians are not our genetic or biological enemies at all.

Our real enemy is the afghani!

Dis I know.

Indian Pakistani overseas stay very happily with one another. No problems….

Same culturally and even linguistically so no real dramay.

Afghani say Hamari nahi banti bhai. They just hate us!

 

[Vsdoc]

It is exclusive to Pakistan. Let them enjoy that. After all it is an Islamic radiation.

Bhai it was a serious post.

Im a medical doctor in my day job.

And Chernobyl and Fukushima were not fiction.

There is literally zero natural barriers between them and us.

And eventually, none will stop radiation poisoning of the land and groundwater.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Bhai it was a serious post.

Im a medical doctor in my day job.

And Chernobyl and Fukushima were not fiction.

There is literally zero natural barriers between them and us.

And eventually, none will stop radiation poisoning of the land and groundwater.

Deleted.

 

[steppeWolff]

Congratulations on declaration of Independence.

We will recognise the nation of Balochistan next, after the Taliban.

Doc you are a funny guy. Ive to give you that.

 

[steppeWolff]

Afghani say Hamari nahi banti bhai. They just hate us!

Its mutual.
If both sides work on it, we can have brotherly relations and our western flank secure. From Chitral to Chaman, people on both sides are the same and daily crossover. Tajiks of Badakshan and Khos of Chitral are very close with each other, people of North Balochistan and South Afghanistan ( Kandhar, Helmand ) are same. Same tribes, same dialects etc.

We already have a massive enemy on our East. We can't be having enemies on our Western flank too.

 

[Mainerik]

Its mutual.
If both sides work on it, we can have brotherly relations and our western flank secure. From Chitral to Chaman, people on both sides are the same and daily crossover. Tajiks of Badakshan and Khos of Chitral are very close with each other, people of North Balochistan and South Afghanistan ( Kandhar, Helmand ) are same. Same tribes, same dialects etc.

We already have a massive enemy on our East. We can't be having enemies on our Western flank too.

Did you not see the amount of support half of them gave to India to overrun us during our latest issue?

 

[steppeWolff]

Did you not see the amount of support half of them gave to India to overrun us during our latest issue?

I did on social media. But the nature of social media is such that you dont know who actually is behind an account. I caught a fake Afghan in some other platform too.

In real life, alot of Afghans were supporting Pakistan and alot ( mostly overseas Afghans were not ). Its a mixed bag.

But tell me this, is it sustainable having enemies on two fronts?

 

[Lulldapull]

Its mutual.
If both sides work on it, we can have brotherly relations and our western flank secure. From Chitral to Chaman, people on both sides are the same and daily crossover. Tajiks of Badakshan and Khos of Chitral are very close with each other, people of North Balochistan and South Afghanistan ( Kandhar, Helmand ) are same. Same tribes, same dialects etc.

We already have a massive enemy on our East. We can't be having enemies on our Western flank too.

Did you see Bilal bhai's (Quwa) post battle report?

We gotta move all our military infra/ Surveillance deep into KPK/ Balochistan, way west of the indus.

There is just no reaction time bro against India.

If we don't do this, India will repeat another May 7th. Modi is already threatening it. They know we are vulnerable on our AB's.

Yesterday the Uki's destroyed all of Russian 'heavy bomber' fleet with saw rupay waali drones, launched from sabzi mandi fruit truck.

Its amazing how fast every things changing.

 

[Mainerik]

I did on social media. But the nature of social media is such that you dont know who actually is behind an account. I caught a fake Afghan in some other platform too.

In real life, alot of Afghans were supporting Pakistan and alot ( mostly overseas Afghans were not ). Its a mixed bag.

But tell me this, is it sustainable having enemies on two fronts?

Of course it isn't but that's the entire point. They were the only country not ro recognize Pakistan in 1947 - and many do and did have dreams of Indja destroying us and 'retaking' this land so they can form akhand bharat and greater loy Afghanistan.


@Krishna with Flute @Paitoo

 

[Lulldapull]

Of course it isn't but that's the entire point. They were the only country not ro recognize Pakistan in 1947 - and many do and did have dreams of Indja destroying us and 'retaking' this land so they can form akhand bharat and greater loy Afghanistan.


@Krishna with Flute @Paitoo

Oh bhai the US almost 2 decade stay in Afghanistan has poisoned the minds of Pashto speakers too. We naively believed that only the badmash Kabuli's hated us.

Now the Afghani pashto mind is also poisoned.

Thanks to humreeka!

 

[Mainerik]

Oh bhai the US almost 2 decade stay in Afghanistan has poisoned the minds of Pashto speakers too. We naively believed that only the badmash Kabuli's hated us.

Now the Afghani pashto mind is also poisoned.

Thanks to humreeka!

This mindset is and was long before the US.

 

[steppeWolff]

There is just no reaction time bro against India.

Our airdefence did quite good.

4-5 Brahmos shot down in Sialkot sector, 1 in Malir, 1 Hammer in Lahore, 1 in Jacobabad and many others etc.
But the nature of saturation attacks is such that there always would be some missiles that would get through. Even the much vaunted Israeli AD got breached.

Our ABs didn't get much damage apart from runway damages ( that can be repaired in some hours ) and a damaged C130 from shrapnel which would easily get repaired too.

And all this is despite PAF having only one battery of HQ9BE. We need more long range SAMs from China, HQ19 is coming. Farooqbhai on PDF told that GIDS LOMADS is already ready. That would further strengthen our GBADs network.

And another factor is, our GBAD network started to get developed in AM Sidhus time which is 3 years till now. So its actually a massive progress.

We gotta move all our military infra/ Surveillance deep into KPK/ Balochistan, way west of the indus.

100% agreed.

We need the Iranian model of bases underneath mountains and we have quite expansive mountains from North to South, west of Indus.

 

[Mainerik]

Our airdefence did quite good.

4-5 Brahmos shot down in Sialkot sector, 1 in Malir, 1 Hammer in Lahore, 1 in Jacobabad and many others etc.
But the nature of saturation attacks is such that there always would be some missiles that would get through. Even the much vaunted Israeli AD got breached.

Our ABs didn't get much damage apart from runway damages ( that can be repaired in some hours ) and a damaged C130 from shrapnel which would easily get repaired too.

And all this is despite PAF having only one battery of HQ9BE. We need more long range SAMs from China, HQ19 is coming. Farooqbhai on PDF told that GIDS LOMADS is already ready. That would further strengthen our GBADs network.

And another factor is, our GBAD network started to get developed in AM Sidhus time which is 3 years till now. So its actually a massive progress.

100% agreed.

We need the Iranian model of bases underneath mountains and we have quite expansive mountains from North to South, west of Indus.

@Krishna with Flute do you still deny this?

 

[steppeWolff]

They were the only country not ro recognize Pakistan in 1947

I know that. That wasn't out of hatred but cause of the issue of durand line.

You can google declassified CIA documents from 1960s, there even was talks between Ayub Khan and Afghan King to form a joint confederations of states. So there is that.

Its a long mix bag of history. In 1980s to early 2000s, Pakistan was very popular in Afghanistan. It changed after we gave NATO the supply route via Karachi Torkham into Afghanistan and airbases like Shamsi, Jacobabad etc.

But I think both sides need to settle issues and they are. In recent trilateral meetings in China, Afghanistan is getting integrated in CPEC and Pakistan and Afghanistan are drafting rail agreements too as we speak. All of that getting implemented is another issue considering the track records.

greater loy Afghanistan.

Most sensible Afghan Pashtuns know it isnt happening. Only if Pakistan alienates its own Pashtuns in some unprecedented way.

Afghanistan isnt Pashtun majority. Pakistan has the largest number of Pashtuns on planet and majority of those wants to do nothing with Afghanistan. The reason Afghans call them "Gul Khans" cause they are patriotic to Pakistan instead of Loy Afghanistan.

 

[Lulldapull]

Our airdefence did quite good.

4-5 Brahmos shot down in Sialkot sector, 1 in Malir, 1 Hammer in Lahore, 1 in Jacobabad and many others etc.
But the nature of saturation attacks is such that there always would be some missiles that would get through. Even the much vaunted Israeli AD got breached.

Our ABs didn't get much damage apart from runway damages ( that can be repaired in some hours ) and a damaged C130 from shrapnel which would easily get repaired too.

And all this is despite PAF having only one battery of HQ9BE. We need more long range SAMs from China, HQ19 is coming. Farooqbhai on PDF told that GIDS LOMADS is already ready. That would further strengthen our GBADs network.

And another factor is, our GBAD network started to get developed in AM Sidhus time which is 3 years till now. So its actually a massive progress.

100% agreed.

We need the Iranian model of bases underneath mountains and we have quite expansive mountains from North to South, west of Indus.

A hundred IAF warplanes flew the 500 mile long and 20 mile wide race track/ figure 8 circuit 50 miles inside the IB, and when our AD was degraded is when they volley launched multiple missiles.

They kept doing this until ran out of missiles.

We had no counter to this.

They are learning from the IDF.

 

[steppeWolff]

@Krishna with Flute do you still deny this?

He's an Indian. Their own Chief of Defence Staff ( CDS ) agreed on live TV that their jets got shot down. And Bhakts were calling him stupid and now are manipulating his words.

Bhakt = *&*&*&*&*&*&.

 

[steppeWolff]

A hundred IAF warplanes flew the 500 mile long and 20 mile wide race track/ figure 8 circuit 50 miles inside the IB, and when our AD was degraded is when they volley launched multiple missiles.

They kept doing this until ran out of missiles.

We had no counter to this.

They are learning from the IDF.

If our AD was degraded, you still gotta give props to our AD that they shot down majority of missiles and soft killing of majority of drones.

India was going for maximum damage. The number of missiles and drones is testament to that. But the damage was minimum at that is testament to our AD.

 

[Lulldapull]

If our AD was degraded, you still gotta give props to our AD that they shot down majority of missiles and soft killing of majority of drones.

India was going for maximum damage. The number of missiles and drones is testament to that. But the damage was minimum at that is testament to our AD.

They used Harops/ Harpy's supplied by Israel to degrade our AD first.....then volley launched the Scalps, Brahmos and Rampage.

Same as the Syria playbook with heavy ECM/ jamming.

In ko Israel train kar ra hae.

Bilal bhai (Quwa) has done a huge assessment of this entire skirmish.

Our short comings/ failures/ damage incurred/ suggestions/ recommendations/ conclusion.

I'll ask him to post his report because its paid subscription/ pay per view.

Don't know if he will appreciate posting it here without permission.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

@Krishna with Flute do you still deny this?

When you couldn't shoot down cheap drones hitting none other than those S**y Chinese AD systems, how could you shoot down Brahmos.
In first major attack, we targetted 9 terrorist camps with our missiles and glide bombs. We fired 23 of them with calibrated warheads. All of them hit targets. In next phase, we took Pakistani Air defence out with cheap drone strike. With what did Pakistan shoot down Brahmos? With the fart of Moonira or with the fart of Shahbaz Sharif?

 

[steppeWolff]

how could you shoot down Brahmos.

Enough evidence of Brahmos debris on X and other social media. Go see it. No one is gonna spoom feed you.

When you couldn't shoot down cheap jets

Your top of the line Rafales got butchered. Indian Armed Forces's CDS is on record to agreeing plus tons of debris videos floating around. Again go see it, no one is gonna spoon feed you.

About your harpy drones, they were falling like bricks from sky. Literally videos of farmers in Lahore shooting down one with their Kalashinkovs.

No one from Pakistan is saying some missiles didn't hit, but there is literally no evidence of substantial damage apart from runways with some holes, a slightly damaged C130.

Can you the say the same after losing billions $$ worth of jets?