[🇵🇰] US imposes sanctions on suppliers to Pakistan’s ballistic missile programme

[Sharma Ji]

No, after 9-11 the US put Pakistan under pressure because of the incident and to get concessions cuz we were running the AQ body shop for global terror. AQ Khan was just a metallurgist who stole centrifuge drawings from Urenco in Holland. What else did he do other than becoming the procurement chief running a small manufacturing workshop?

He just sourced material mainly from China. That's where everything useful came from anyway no? all the Uranium was procured, all the maraging steel for the rotors, all the transformers/ motors from Turkey.

Fissile Mat'l came from Chainda no? Triggers came from Chainda too, same same for the bumm design itself.

Today all our nuke tech comes from Chainda, except these are Plutonium based reactors. What have we done here? other than procurement?

Didn't take them very long (to put it mildly) after Pokhran to set one off their own in Chagai or wherever.

 

[Lulldapull]

Didn't take them very long (to put it mildly) after Pokhran to set one off their own in Chagai or wherever.

Lets get one thing straight. The US uses us to check India and put it in its place using China.

I hope that is not a hard one to understand?

The US and China are in bed together......hard to believe Indians don't understand this?

This is why the Iranis laugh at the hendu-pak toady......lol

 

[Sharma Ji]

Lets get one thing straight. The US uses us to check India and put it in its place using China.

I hope that is not a hard one to understand?

The US and China are in bed together......hard to believe Indians don't understand this?

This is why the Iranis laugh at the hendu-pak toady......lol

Sure, I agree.. China is the US' main adversary, whether its military, or trade, or global influence.

India, given how "yes saar, right away saar" subservient and compliant we are, would be pretty low down on their list of potential rivals or whatever. Big corporations aside, we a poor mess of a mulk too.

Could well be that the device used in quick time after Pokhran 2 came fully assembled, from China, and it is possible US had intel but chose to look the other way.. just speculating, could be anything.

 

[Lulldapull]

Sure, I agree.. China is the US' main adversary, whether its military, or trade, or global influence.

India, given how "yes saar, right away saar" subservient and compliant we are, would be pretty low down on their list of potential rivals or whatever. Big corporations aside, we a poor mess of a mulk too.

Could well be that the device used in quick time after Pokhran 2 came fully assembled, from China, and it is possible US had intel but chose to look the other way.. just speculating, could be anything.

No its pretty darn obvious. Both China and India 100% dependent on US trade......otherwise go back to riding bicycles bhai. It is us in Pakistan, way low down in da pecking order. Yous both far higher than us in the scheme.

 

[Sharma Ji]

No its pretty darn obvious. Both China and India 100% dependent on US trade......otherwise go back to riding bicycles bhai. It is us in Pakistan, way low down in da pecking order. Yous both far higher than us in the scheme.

Bro, everyone is 'dependent' on trade with the US to an extent, say for perhaps the DPRK, who again are kept alive by feeding tubes from China, who make their money from US. Full circle, ouroboros.

 

[VCheng]

You've met him physically on the ground? Interesting. How were your discussions with him?

I worked a few miles outside of Islamabad for a few years in a related field, and knew many of the main characters involved in certain projects. But all that was a long time ago.

One discussion that was frowned upon was about the necessity of having nuclear weapons at the cost of ignoring social development. We can see the results of those decisions more and more starkly today.

 

[Dogun18]

 

[Vsdoc]

I worked a few miles outside of Islamabad for a few years in a related field, and knew many of the main characters involved in certain projects. But all that was a long time ago.

One discussion that was frowned upon was about the necessity of having nuclear weapons at the cost of ignoring social development. We can see the results of those decisions more and more starkly today.

Frowned on has connotations that one can afford to idly speculate about, sitting accross the border far away in India.

I could have understood it being a people or race ir ethnicity thing if it was just Pakistan.

And Bangladesh had bucked the trend.

But most of us are now revising that calculus hastily.

Its got nothing to do with the people, or even those in charge.

 

[Lulldapull]

If we don't get hypersonic missiles, that means our nuke arsenal is blunted with the proliferation of ABM defenses. And it is rather preposterous of the US to assume that Pakistan acquiring ICBMs means it plans on targeting the US.

 

[VCheng]

Frowned on has connotations that one can afford to idly speculate about, sitting accross the border far away in India.

I could have understood it being a people or race ir ethnicity thing if it was just Pakistan.

And Bangladesh had bucked the trend.

But most of us are now revising that calculus hastily.

Its got nothing to do with the people, or even those in charge.

The whole region has to come to some form of consensus in this regards, eventually. Some day, perhaps, but not anytime soon, I think.