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It is very rare to find such a Pakistani in the USA, which denies his Pakistanhood. However, I have seen here in the USA a few who claim to be Emirati, Omani, Bahrani etc, while they are all from the former FATA agencies.There is also a fifth kind who being a migrant in the west absolutely refuses to admit he's Pakistani in public............This info graphic needs to include this category of 'Disowning his national origin'.........
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yaar don't you remember after 911 how so many of our people just immediately used to say we are 'Indians' to get away from being 'stigmatized' as Al-Qaeda/ talibunny lovers by the hillbilly.It is very rare to find such a Pakistani in the USA, which denies his Pakistanhood. However, I have seen here in the USA a few who claim to be Emirati, Omani, Bahrani etc, while they are all from the former FATA agencies.
Ordinary Americans consider all South Asian to be Muslims and they even beat up hindus and sikhs mistaken for Muslims. They do not understand that Christianity and Jews came to Pakistan a thousand years before Columbus.yaar don't you remember after 911 how so many of our people just immediately used to say we are 'Indians' to get away from being 'stigmatized' as Al-Qaeda/ talibunny lovers by the hillbilly.......I lived in da midwest near Chicago and it was just fear and loathing everywhere. All the arbi started saying dey are Greeks and Assyrian christy X-Tians and our jhaggay turned Indians in no time.
......It got so ugly in the immediate aftermath of 911. Millions left the US in fear of being caught up in da FBI dragnet, if they were illegal. There used to 1.6 million Pakistani's in the US before 911. Today there are less than 600k.
If hendu-pak ain't metro-sexual lookin as in clean cut and bathed/ showered/ decent clothes/ not too dark like Indian and with money/ education presenting himself like an educated westernized migrant, westerners just reject him/ her like they do wid da bhlack peepal. It's very bad! I's seen it in Devon our biggest Pakistani hood in da Chi-Raaq.Ordinary Americans consider all South Asian to be Muslims and they even beat up hindus and sikhs mistaken for Muslims. They do not understand that Christianity and Jews came to Pakistan a thousand years before Columbus.
When I was young, it was not so common to see a Pakistani with an Indian soap opera beard. That has changed. Today, it is very hard to find our guys who do not copy Indian soap opera actors with beards. Try finding a recent wedding picture where the Pakistani groom has no beard. They all now look like Indian soap opera actors/cricketers ( joker).If hendu-pak ain't metro-sexual lookin as in clean cut and bathed/ showered/ decent clothes/ not too dark like Indian and with money/ education presenting himself like an educated westernized migrant, westerners just reject him/ her like they do wid da bhlack peepal. It's very bad! I's seen it in Devon our biggest Pakistani hood in da Chi-Raaq.
When I was young, it was not so common to see a Pakistani with an Indian soap opera beard. That has changed. Today, it is very hard to find our guys who do not copy Indian soap opera actors with beards. Try finding a recent wedding picture where the Pakistani groom has no beard. They all now look like Indian soap opera actors/cricketers ( joker).
I grew up seeing my grandfather, father, and uncles all clean shave every single morning. I still do the same. But I cannot believe my eyes when I look at many others. Some became Tablighi, and others looked like failed soap opera actors with beards.With Turkish dramas, American dramas, Indian Dramas, and our dramas, there is now an odd blend of Pakistani dramas that emulate all of the above.
Our pop in da US been cut down to a third of what it was pre-911. This is how deys operate. Indians now number well over 5 mill....!....Aur 3 million Irani Shahi just in greater LA/ Cali. What political impact could we ever have in da US?When I was young, it was not so common to see a Pakistani with an Indian soap opera beard. That has changed. Today, it is very hard to find our guys who do not copy Indian soap opera actors with beards. Try finding a recent wedding picture where the Pakistani groom has no beard. They all now look like Indian soap opera actors/cricketers ( joker).
So, who is a Hendu-Pak for you? Give an example.This is horrible guys. After 911 hmaray logon ka jo hashar kara hae hillbilly nay. It's just a sad story. Millions got harassed to death and literally frog marched out of the country. I just hope most found refuge in either Canada or UK or Australia or even Mexico. Hendu-pak unfortunately got no standing in da US, even if dey get da money, cuz da Anglo-Waspy society would never accept them, except as Jews. And yous know de old hilljack sayin.......'Jew below da white man'......Aur itthay log tryin to talk about middhal heest and geo-politics?............I just get a chuckle every now n then from our ghareeb deen miskeen.
Subcontinent migrants from India/ Pakistan/ Bangladesh/ AfghanistanSo, who is a Hendu-Pak for you? Give an example.
Do you have these people even as far as in Haripur?Subcontinent migrants from India/ Pakistan/ Bangladesh/ Afghanistan
They put us in dat category in da US no? Dividing line is Iran. If yous irani, yous whhyte, but if yous east of dat border yous hendu-pak......This is a western Yahudi gimmick btw......Yahudi has created dis delineation for US immigration/ perception. Just like in da 10 commandments/ da Mummy back in 1935 Hollywood moulding of perception.Do you have these people even as far as in Haripur?
The South Indians and Chinese seem to be doing better than the American whites. The federal government and top companies have South Indian CEOs and other key positions.They put us in dat category in da US no? Dividing line is Iran. If yous irani, yous whaayte, but if yous east of dat border yous hendu-pak......This is a western Yahudi gimmick btw......Yahudi has created dis delineation for US immigration/ perception. Just like in da ten commandments/ da Mummy back in 1935.
I know......but da racism is yahud/ Zionist inspired cuz he's scared dat if all dem oder colored's come on in in big numbers, he's just goin lose his monopoly in the JDL/ AIPAC and Affirmative action no? Iran needs to create a new lobby in da US led by da colored muzlims.......Its only fair.....If da Jew can pull dis off, den so can we no?The South Indians and Chinese seem to be doing better than the American whites. The federal government and top companies have South Indian CEOs and other key positions.
We are not Iranis after all and Indian lobby will become winner in the end in the US. I can see it every day. That is not a bad thing though as ordinary Americans do not differentiate between Indian and Pakistani. That will be difficult to swallow for many of us but it is not bad strategically. We have much less to concern about xenophobia in the US than many other parts of the world. We have to think about our own interests at the end day.I know......but da racism is yahud/ Zionist inspired cuz he's scared dat if all dem oder colored's come on in in big numbers, he's just goin lose his monopoly in the JDL/ AIPAC and Affirmative action no? Iran needs to create a new lobby in da US led by da colored muzlims.......Its only fair.....If da Jew can pull dis off, den so can we no?
The whole reason for the yahuday for bringing in da coloreds out west is so he can breathe eazy no? He don’t wanna be in da spotlight at all. If Iran dismantles Isra-heel aleh salam, what’s goin happen to 69% of Isra-heli colored middle eastern Jews who look Arab? You think da hillbillies will accept dem on face value as yahuday and not muzz-lim? I don’t think so. Most Isra-heli look colored and dats what it all boils down to. Irans goin have to take in deez colored Knick Knacks and absorb em….cuz in the US/ EU they’d get rejected as usual like Syrian or Al-Turkish or Afghani. And the Arabs would just kill em like in 2 minutes, if they ever stepped foot in muzlim countries.We are not Iranis after all and Indian lobby will become winner in the end in the US. I can see it every day. That is not a bad thing though as ordinary Americans do not differentiate between Indian and Pakistani. That will be difficult to swallow for many of us but it is not bad strategically. We have much less to concern about xenophobia in the US than many other parts of the world. We have to think about our own interests at the end day.
Our ghareeb in NYC/ NJ/ CT tri-state area. I always tell our community to go eat in our Pakistani cabby joints and help out our own community cuz da food is good n fresh, if you have lunch there, not dinner. Keep in mind guys.....if you get in trouble, only your own will help you out.....Trump sahb coming back come Christmas, Its just goin be a nasty racist surprise coming up soon. Everyone bracing for da worst:
I travel a lot. US/UK/Aus/Canada….wherever I go I try supporting our community by eating in our restraunts.Are you still in Japan or have moved to the US?
yaar don't you remember after 911 how so many of our people just immediately used to say we are 'Indians' to get away from being 'stigmatized' as Al-Qaeda/ talibunny lovers by the hillbilly.......I lived in da midwest near Chicago and it was just fear and loathing everywhere. All the arbi started saying dey are Greeks and Assyrian christy X-Tians and our jhaggay turned Indians in no time.
......It got so ugly in the immediate aftermath of 911. Millions left the US in fear of being caught up in da FBI dragnet, if they were illegal. There used to 1.6 million Pakistani's in the US before 911. Today there are less than 600k.
Sindhi to aadhay hindu he honday ne culturally......I's been to a lot of places in interior Sindh. Main khud vekheya se ina nu qareeb say......Daakuan de puter.....lolThose "so many" people mostly consist of Muhajirs & Sindhis. Rest of Pakistanis don't want to associate with India. Long after and long before "war on terror" era, it was Muhajirs & Sindhis who always had a feel for Bharat & Bollywood.
Not to mention how white-washed elite class Muhajirs & Sindhis can be.
Sindhi to aadhay hindu he honday ne culturally......I's been to a lot of places in interior Sindh. Main khud vekheya se ina nu qareeb say......Daakuan de puter.....lol
No lmao they actually don't even follow their own pagan beleifs and I think some Indian migrants from North India brought their "hinduism" there, so they are practicing that, which is historically foreign to our land"Hindu" lol. As if that word has an actual meaning besides one of the Indus.
No lmao they actually don't even follow their own pagan beleifs and I think some Indian migrants from North India brought their "hinduism" there, so they are practicing that, which is historically foreign to our land
Yeah I will try to find a link for you, that culture is foreign to us as much as any other, which also includes holi as being foreign, was never practiced hereI read so on a Pakistani website. Years ago.
Sindhis were originally never considered to be a caste under Sanatana dharma. They were outside the caste system. Therefore, they were not even Hindu or Buddhists. To escape this social dogma they converted to Islam along with their landlords or feudal loads who owned their lands where Sindis used to work as serfs. I also know about the background of Punjabi converts.Yeah I will try to find a link for you, that culture is foreign to us as much as any other, which also includes holi as being foreign, was never practiced here
Sindhis were originally never considered to be a caste under Sanatana dharma. They were outside the caste system. Therefore, they were not even Hindu or Buddhists. To escape this social dogma they converted to Islam along with their landlords or feudal loads who owned their lands where Sindis used to work as serfs. I also know about the background of Punjabi converts.
I'm interested in the Punjabi Convert backgroundSindhis were originally never considered to be a caste under Sanatana dharma. They were outside the caste system. Therefore, they were not even Hindu or Buddhists. To escape this social dogma they converted to Islam along with their landlords or feudal loads who owned their lands where Sindis used to work as serfs. I also know about the background of Punjabi converts.
Sanatan Dharma is as new as the term Hinduism or Hindu (religious sense) and was a product of the 19th century and came out of reform schools during colonial ruleSantana Dharama apparently also has no mention in Vedic or other ancient texts, so this whole thing is a misnomer. However if you go to Wikipedia, even pre-Islamic Sindhi deities are being flagged as "Hindu."
Even the Kalash are now being flagged as "Hindu." Pathetic.
They will eventually claim everything as Hindu it seems even tho these Indian "hindus" viewed these Kalashas as MleechasSantana Dharama apparently also has no mention in Vedic or other ancient texts, so this whole thing is a misnomer. However if you go to Wikipedia, even pre-Islamic Sindhi deities are being flagged as "Hindu."
Even the Kalash are now being flagged as "Hindu." Pathetic.
It doesn't matter. Caste system is part of the Hindus. Sindhis were outcasts similar to Dalits.Santana Dharama apparently also has no mention in Vedic or other ancient texts, so this whole thing is a misnomer. However if you go to Wikipedia, even pre-Islamic Sindhi deities are being flagged as "Hindu."
Even the Kalash are now being flagged as "Hindu." Pathetic.
It wasn't practiced by the vedics yet they claim the vedas as their textsIt doesn't matter. Caste system is part of the Hindus. Send his ere outcasts similar to Dalits.
You will see it from their family names. If the Punjabi Muslims converted from high castes, they kept the caste name as surnames. Otherwise, it became Rehman, Ahmed, Haq etc to hide their low caste backgroundsI'm interested in the Punjabi Convert background
It is not enough to follow the Vedas to be a Hindu. One must follow Gita and Manusamhita etc.It wasn't practiced by the vedics yet they claim the vedas as their texts
Weird question but are the Brahmins aryans like they claim online or not? What makes them superior to the rest if anythingIt is not enough to follow the Vedas to be a Hindu. One must follow Gita and Manusamhita etc.
They are related to the Indus but others are from low land. I have seen real Brahmins ( not fake) who look similar like the White Persians.Weird question but are the Brahmins aryans like they claim online or not? What makes them superior to the rest if anything
Are there any of these in Pakistan?They are related to the Indus but others are from low land. I have seen real Brahmins ( not fake) who look similar like the White Persians.
Yes. Allama Iqbal is an example.Are there any of these in Pakistan?
Most Brahmin never had to convert because they enjoyed high status during Sultani / Mughal / British periods.Yes. Allama Iqbal is an example.
Heard they are great bootlickers, considered mughal emperors avatars of their gods or something around those linesMost Brahmin never had to convert because they enjoyed high status during Sultani / Mughal / British periods.
Family traditions well-educated them. Still, they are. They were ahead of others because they were the first people to adapt to Farsi and English before any low caste convert could do it. Most bureaucrats and admin staff of the Sultan/Mughals/British were, therefore, the Bramins. Even the Sultans relied more on the Brahmins than the native low-caste illiterate converts. Even today, education largely follows the family tradition with few exceptions. If parents are university graduates, the children are more likely to follow suit.Heard they are great bootlickers, considered mughal emperors avatars of their gods or something around those lines
Brahmins make up only three percent of the Indian population, but seven of the nine Indian-born/Indian-origin Nobel laureates are Brahmins. The only Indian to win the Fields award in mathematics is a Brahmin.Family traditions well-educated them. Still, they are. They were ahead of others because they were the first people to adapt to Farsi and English before any low caste convert could do it. Most bureaucrats and admin staff of the Sultan/Mughals/British were, therefore, the Bramins. Even the Sultans relied more on the Brahmins than the native low-caste illiterate converts. Even today, education largely follows the family tradition with few exceptions. If parents are university graduates, the children are more likely to follow suit.
The majority of Brahmins are in Kashmir ( Pundits). However, 99% of the population is Dalits/ Adivasi in South Asia.Indian gubment did a survey in their UP state and it revealed that less than 1% of the pop was true Brahmunds. 5% khatri and 5% banye (shop keeper) Baqi saaray taqreeban 90% dalit.............Aaaahahahaaaaa
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