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- Elected with a decisive 53% of votes
- He is 69 years old and a cardiac surgeon
- He is not a mullah and wants to make Iran a "normal" country

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Man, they are far more secular than our society in a lotta ways. No irani does suicide bombing. We never hear shia sunni fighting there despite 20% sunni population. We also never hear Christy X-Tian fighting mainstream muslim and they got like 2 million Armenians living there. Same on anti-Jewish violence. Never heard of it.@Old School @Lulldapull @Malang @Mkesath @Azad Kashmir @ThunderCat @LegionnairE
What do you think? Will Iran change into a secular nation now?
Man, they are far more secular than our society in a lotta ways. No irani does suicide bombing. We never hear shia sunni fighting there despite 20% sunni population. We also never hear Christy X-Tian fighting mainstream muslim and they got like 2 million Armenians living there. Same on anti-Jewish violence. Never heard of it.
The main issue in Iran is this hijab issue and no bars/ alcohol and night clubs/ casinos and all the fun things to do, so the tourists don't wanna go there.
I just saw pics of my friends trip to Egypt, and the nice areas of Cairo/ Alexandria those ferry trips on the nile boats down to Abu Simbal.......Damn bro, Egypt has done an awesome job on its tourism sector.
I would choose Egypt over Iran in two milli seconds if I were to choose where to vacation.
Yes Sir I agree with you. Egypt has developed tourism. Many Europeans love to go Sharm al Sheikh, the boat ride in river Nile, Alexandria, Pyramids of Giza and the Cairo city.Man, they are far more secular than our society in a lotta ways. No irani does suicide bombing. We never hear shia sunni fighting there despite 20% sunni population. We also never hear Christy X-Tian fighting mainstream muslim and they got like 2 million Armenians living there. Same on anti-Jewish violence. Never heard of it.
The main issue in Iran is this hijab issue and no bars/ alcohol and night clubs/ casinos and all the fun things to do, so the tourists don't wanna go there.
I just saw pics of my friends trip to Egypt, and the nice areas of Cairo/ Alexandria those ferry trips on the nile boats down to Abu Simbal.......Damn bro, Egypt has done an awesome job on its tourism sector.
I would choose Egypt over Iran in two milli seconds if I were to choose where to vacation.
your assessment is correct ..the new President can not change the "ISLAMIC" and Mullah driven nature of government but look at the results of this election and it is an eye opener and way of the future:Dr. Masoud Pezeshkian is a reformist. The question is if his reformist agenda also include the de-mollafication of Iran. His appointment is linked to improve relations with the US and EU as mollah regime needs money and business. Iran can not change into a secular state in one day based on the reality. It will take many gradual steps to get rid of the mollah regime. Can Dr. Masoud Pezeshkian start the de-mollafication process ? Only the time will tell. My assesment is that Dr. Masoud Pezeshkian will become the soft face of the mollahs to extract deals from the west. Nothing more.
Iran's path to a secular state will be a gradual and peaceful evolution. Iran has a very large, well, and highly educated population, unlike other Muslim countries. They know that, historically, all revolutions are doomed for failure. On the other hand, evolution is durable. Islam, as we know, exists due to the overwhelming illiterate and semi-educated population in Asia and Africa. Most Muslims can not understand "critical English" writing, as 99% of the world's knowledge is written in English. Once they do, Islam will collapse by itself.your assessment is correct ..the new President can not change the "ISLAMIC" and Mullah driven nature of government but look at the results of this election and it is an eye opener and way of the future:
Iran will be a secular nation in a decade..question is will it happen gradual and peaceful or the 85% unhappy population will rebel against the 15% who are in power now...time will tell!!.
- 51% of Iranian eligible voter population boycotted the election because they outright reject "Islamic Republic" as a way of governance in Iran
- of the remaining 49% who accept Islamic system, 53% do not agree with the current policies and voted for Dr Pezeshkian (vote for change)
- only 13 million representing less than 15% of voter population voted for hardline mullah driven system..
Iran is never going to be secular unless there is a revolution bigger than the revolution of Khamenei.Iran's path to a secular state will be a gradual and peaceful evolution. Iran has a very large, well, and highly educated population, unlike other Muslim countries. They know that, historically, all revolutions are doomed for failure. On the other hand, evolution is durable. Islam, as we know, exists due to the overwhelming illiterate and semi-educated population in Asia and Africa. Most Muslims can not understand "critical English" writing, as 99% of the world's knowledge is written in English. Once they do, Islam will collapse by itself.
When you study history, you will see that revolution doesn't work in religious affairs because you can not force someone to be religious, nor can you force them to be secular. The Iranian Islamic revolution didn't make people religious as 90% of Iranian consider themselves to be atheist. Europe did not need a revolution to eliminate the church authority during the Enlightenment. They slowly became secular. Pakistan and South Asians have no chance to be secular, as 99% of these people suffer from jahiliyyat. The majority of Iranians do not have this issue. Iranians were already very much secular with a strong secular base. Jahils are more prone to typical religions, while you see that secular followers come from the educated class.Iran is never going to be secular unless there is a revolution bigger than the revolution of Khamenei.
The Iranian Islamic revolution didn't make people religious as 90% of Iranian consider themselves to be atheist.
No Sir I disagreePakistan and South Asians have no chance to be secular, as 99% of these people suffer from jahiliyyat. The majority of Iranians do not have this issue. Iranians were already very much secular with a strong secular base. Jahils are more prone to typical religions, while you see that secular followers come from the educated class.
Oh paa G dunya di secular tareen qaum hae gee Irani turani!No Sir I disagree
While there are secular in every society including Pakistan and Iran, the majority of Iranians are religious and very emotional people. You cannot debate with Iranian people as you will always fear of personal attacks if you disagree with their views.
This is going to be a very long discussion if we discuss in detail by comparing various aspects of secularism with Iran so I would respectfully disagree and move on.
Iran would need a revolution to soften its policies first then a gradual process of reform will begin and requires decades if not centuries to change the public opinion from Islamist to liberal or secular.
At the Pakistani military intelligence school, all officers must learn the difference between a coup and a revolution and history in depth in their curriculum. They are not the same regular forum people (whose guns are bigger !) or journalists you have seen in the last 15-20 years.No Sir I disagree
While there are secular in every society including Pakistan and Iran, the majority of Iranians are religious and very emotional people. You cannot debate with Iranian people as you will always fear of personal attacks if you disagree with their views.
This is going to be a very long discussion if we discuss in detail by comparing various aspects of secularism with Iran so I would respectfully disagree and move on.
Iran would need a revolution to soften its policies first then a gradual process of reform will begin and requires decades if not centuries to change the public opinion from Islamist to liberal or secular.
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