[🇮🇷] Breaking! Israel has attacked Iran. Live Coverage

[4MikeEcho]

Boy, lot of people saying Isra-heel actually don’t even got da means to retaliate against Iran. They fired a missile and it landed in western Iraq in a corn field and it didn’t even explode. Al-Gurdish dissidents flew 3 Walmart quad copters with fire crackers hanging underneath desperately tryin ta target some military warehouse in Isfahan and Irani AI/optical FLIR sentry’s shot dem down in two seconds…..

The emperor’s got no clothes!

What to do now?

Can you site a credible source that claims that Israel does not have the means?

Israel's entire doctrine against non neighboring countries has been based on Israel doctrine.

The emperor no clothes country pretty much can do as it pleases to helpless Palestinians (Gaza or West Bank) and all the way to Syria without a single arab country lifting a finger. And provided it does not kill any further Iranian generals, Iranians too have shown that they are not going to interfere. There must be enough a deterrent that Israelis have that Iranians advertised their attack days before.

 

[Lulldapull]

Can you site a credible source that claims that Israel does not have the means?

Israel's entire doctrine against non neighboring countries has been based on Israel doctrine.

The emperor no clothes country pretty much can do as it pleases to helpless Palestinians (Gaza or West Bank) and all the way to Syria without a single arab country lifting a finger. And provided it does not kill any further Iranian generals, Iranians too have shown that they are not going to interfere. There must be enough a deterrent that Israelis have that Iranians advertised their attack days before.

We’ve got col McGregor and Scot Ritter as sources along with middleast eye and so many others saying it now. I’m happy to post the articles/ vidz but the truth now is something everyone was unaware of previously. Israel does not have the means nor da oomph to retaliate. Jericho series IRBMs are the only thing in the IDF arsenal with a reach to strike deep in Iran. So why is Israel not using them? I believe you know the answer to dat. My hunch tells me they don’t got enough of em to make any significant impact and more importantly the IDF is scared that Iranian ABM defenses are robust enough to defeat them, cuz theys old. It will be very embarrassing if Isra-heel launched a full on retaliation and it appears like a child tryin retaliate against an adult. Irans already pulled down Israel’s pants in front of da whole world. All Israel can do is assasinate IRGC officers in foreign countries, and even that activity might come under guarded scrutiny from now on within their gubment. Most of the IDF strikes in da Sy-Raaq are like pounding sand. The ammo stores are in deep underground bunkers and tunnels. There’s no real damage. Everyone knows.

 

[Lulldapull]

guys Isra-heel has been turned into a neighborhood rundi by da irani’s. Even our own tajziyakar are admitting it as such. What a disgrace Israel has turned out to be. This is in Urdu by Dr shahid masood and he’s right…..it was better had Israel never even bothered retaliating with firecrackers. Netanyahu is finished. He responded by using three Walmart quadcopter drones on a nuke facility buried 100m deep to Irans 300 drones and 200 missiles…

 

[Rebirth]

The event between Iran and Israel is like fixed fight to some extent.

The Iran have failed to avenge killing of it's people by US and Israel, both of response attacks from Iran didn't kill or damage US or Israeli key people or assets so that's a failure.

For those who think Israel can not attack Iran as it doesn't have means are fools, look what tech and support they have available from top militaries of the world and how Muslim countries are ready to keep eye ls closed if their air space is used.

Israel was willing to attack Pakistan in 1998 to stop us from becoming Nuclear power but had to abandon plans due to diplomatic pressure.

 

[Lulldapull]

The event between Iran and Israel is like fixed fight to some extent.

The Iran have failed to avenge killing of it's people by US and Israel, both of response attacks from Iran didn't kill or damage US or Israeli key people or assets so that's a failure.

For those who think Israel can not attack Iran as it doesn't have means are fools, look what tech and support they have available from top militaries of the world and how Muslim countries are ready to keep eye ls closed if their air space is used.

Israel was willing to attack Pakistan in 1998 to stop us from becoming Nuclear power but had to abandon plans due to diplomatic pressure.

Iran has killed well over 2500 Israeli's since oct 7th last year bhai, and injured multiple times dat number! Hundreds of IDF soldier amputees today from gunshot/ shrapnel injuries from Hamas/ Hezb/ Kataib weaponry. When yous sitting in dat Merkava tank and that Al-Yasin RPG hits you, the concussion seriously messes you up. Your brain not da same afterwords. Many people commit suicide afterwords from PTSD. And I believe the IDF had a plan to take out our Kahuta back in the early 1980's in a joint op with the Indian AF during the Zia era, not 1998.

 

[Rebirth]

Iran has killed well over 2500 Israeli's since oct 7th last year bhai, and injured multiple times dat number! Hundreds of IDF soldier amputees today from gunshot/ shrapnel injuries from Hamas/ Hezb/ Kataib weaponry. When yous sitting in dat Merkava tank and that Al-Yasin RPG hits you, the concussion seriously messes you up. Your brain not da same afterwords. Many people commit suicide afterwords from PTSD. And I believe the IDF had a plan to take out our Kahuta back in the early 1980's in a joint op with the Indian AF during the Zia era, not 1998.

Did I mention those events in my post?? I was specific about certain situations in which Iran failed in getting the job done directly or may be they never wanted to inflict damage as they conveyed the msg to their enemy in advance about their upcoming attack.

 

[Old School]

Any general who becomes too powerful and popular in Iran becomes a threat to Ayatullah and his circle. They are afraid of military coups, and those generals are popular among the general public. These generals are not religious, either. So, Irani leadership let them get killed by providing real-time intelligence through back door channels. Similarly, they pretend to avenge the killings while telegraphing the attacks in advance, often even with degraded or dummy warheads. They keep their local population happy this way. It is happening so frequently this way that their actions have become laughing stocks. Remember, the most important objective for the Ayatullah is to stay in power at any cost.

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

Well if Israel attacks Iran, Iran has a right to retaliate against Israel.
Thats only fair.

 

[Lulldapull]

The event between Iran and Israel is like fixed fight to some extent.

The Iran have failed to avenge killing of it's people by US and Israel, both of response attacks from Iran didn't kill or damage US or Israeli key people or assets so that's a failure.

For those who think Israel can not attack Iran as it doesn't have means are fools, look what tech and support they have available from top militaries of the world and how Muslim countries are ready to keep eye ls closed if their air space is used.

Israel was willing to attack Pakistan in 1998 to stop us from becoming Nuclear power but had to abandon plans due to diplomatic pressure.

Iran has killed well over 2500 Israeli's since oct 7th last year bhai, and injured multiple times dat number! Hundreds of IDF soldier amputees today. When yous sitting in dat Merkava tank and that Al-Yasin RPG hits you, the concussion seriously messes you up. Your brain not da same afterwords. Many people commit suicide afterwords from PTSD. And I believe the IDF had a plan to take out our Kahuta back in the early 1980's in a joint op with the Indian AF during the Zia era, not 1998.

Did I mention those events in my post?? I was specific about certain situations in which Iran failed in getting the job done directly or may be they never wanted to inflict damage as they conveyed the msg to their enemy in advance about their upcoming attack.

yaar ye Irani regional dada bun gya hae. Ayatollah's got millions of regional toady jhaggay on his payroll. People are willing to fight to da death for a few hundred dollars per day. Irani's play games with da US. The US will never fight Iran because Iran's going to seriously disrupt global economy and a lot countries economies around da world will collapse. What Iran's managed to do in this escalation is to humble and intimidate Israel. Iran's too big for little ol Israel to fight. Iran has surrounded tiny Israel with a million muzlim toady, who alone are enough for Israel. US/ UK/ France step aside, Israel will be in a lot of trouble. Netanyahu sahb knows this. You know I knew somebody back in Chicago who was in the US army rangers and he survived a massive IED blast in Iraq. He was fine, just had a change of personality. A few years down da road I heard he committed suicide by OD'ing on pain killers. Only that day I understood what PTSD is.

 

[Saif]

Iran, Israel appear to pull back from brink of war

Iran has dismissed as akin to child’s play the reported Israeli retaliation for an unprecedented Iranian strike, as both sides on Saturday appeared to...

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Iran, Israel appear to pull back from brink of war
Agence France-Presse . Ramallah 21 April, 2024, 00:31

A Palestinian man mourns relatives killed in Israeli bombing in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip on Saturday amid the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Hamas movement. | AFP photo

Iran has dismissed as akin to child's play the reported Israeli retaliation for an unprecedented Iranian strike, as both sides on Saturday appeared to step back from wider conflict stemming from the war in Gaza.

But a deadly blast at an Iraqi military base emphasised the high tensions which persist, and witnesses in Gaza reported more strikes there.

Fears of a wider Middle East war escalated this month.

Israel had warned it would hit back after Iran fired hundreds of missiles and drones one week ago in retaliation for a deadly April 1 air strike—which Iran blamed on Israel—that levelled the Iranian consulate in Damascus and killed seven Revolutionary Guards.

The Israeli retaliation appeared to come on Friday, when Iranian media reported blasts in the central province of Isfahan.

Fars news agency reported 'three explosions' close to Qahjavarestan, near Isfahan airport and the 8th Shekari army airbase.

'What happened last night was no attack,' foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian told NBC News in a Friday interview.

'It was the flight of two or three quadcopters, which are at the level of toys that our children use in Iran.'

He added that, 'As long as there is no new adventure on behalf of the Israeli regime against Iran's interests, we will have no response.'

Israeli officials have made no public comment on what, according to a senior United States congressional source who spoke to AFP, were retaliatory Israeli strikes against Iran.

Tensions soared after the attack on Iran's consulate, but violence involving Iran-backed groups had already surged throughout the Middle East alongside the Gaza war.

Officials in Iraq on Saturday said one person was killed and eight wounded in an explosion at an Iraqi military base housing a coalition of pro-Iranian armed groups.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility.

Last weekend, Iran launched its first-ever attack directly targeting Israel.

With the help of the United States and other allies, Israel intercepted most of the more than 300 missiles and drones it said Iran had launched.

Iran said its attack was in retaliation for the April 1 strike on its Damascus embassy consular annex.

The Palestinian Authority will 'reconsider' its relationship with the United States after Washington vetoed a Palestinian bid for full UN membership earlier this week, president Mahmud Abbas said Saturday.

'The Palestinian leadership will reconsider bilateral relations with the United States to ensure the protection of our people's interests, our cause, and our rights,' Abbas told the official Palestinian news agency Wafa.

Wafa said his remarks came 'on the heels of the United States' use of veto power' at the UN Security Council.

Thursday's vote saw 12 countries on the Council back a resolution recommending full Palestinian membership and two — Britain and Switzerland — abstain.

Only the United States, Israel's staunchest ally, voted against, using its veto to block the resolution.

Abbas said the Palestinian leadership will 'develop a new strategy to protect Palestinian national decisions independently and follow a Palestinian agenda rather than an American vision or regional agendas'.

He said Palestinians would 'not remain hostage to policies that have proven their failure and have been exposed to the entire world'.

And he said the stance of the US government had 'generated unprecedented anger among the Palestinian people and the region's populations, potentially pushing the region towards further instability, chaos and terrorism'.

Gaza's civil defence agency said Saturday an overnight Israeli strike killed nine members of a Palestinian family including six children in the southern city Rafah.

Five children aged one to seven and a 16-year-old girl were among the dead, along with two women and a man, according to the city's Al Najjar hospital.

'Nine martyrs including six children were pulled out from the rubble after Israeli air forces struck a house of the Radwan family in Tal al-Sultan in Rafah,' Gaza Civil Defence agency spokesman Mahmud Bassal said in a statement.

Outside the hospital an AFP journalist saw people grieving over small body bags. A woman stroked a dead boy's forehead as planes rumbled overhead.

'People were sleeping peacefully,' said neighbour Abu Mohammed Ziyadah.

'As you can see, there were no militants, not even male adults, except for the head of the family. They were all women and children.'

Soon after the war in Gaza began on October 7, Israel told Palestinians living in the north of Gaza to move to 'safe zones' in the territory's south such as Rafah.

But Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has since vowed to invade the city, where around 1.5 million people — more than half the territory's population — are sheltering.

Israel has for two months threatened to send troops in against Hamas militants, but even without such an operation Rafah is under regular bombardment.

Bassal said the Israeli army struck several areas in Rafah overnight, including Salam neighbourhood where one person was killed and several wounded. He said the army hit a house and a nursery school.

'It has been a very hard night on Rafah,' he said.

In the north of the occupied West Bank, the Israeli army said Saturday troops had killed 10 militants in an ongoing raid around Nur Shams, a refugee camp.

AFP journalists heard gunshots and saw houses hit by blasts as Israeli drones flew overhead and armoured vehicles moved through the camp.

Since early last year, violence has flared in the West Bank, which Israel has occupied since 1967. It has escalated further since war broke out in Gaza on October 7.

The Palestinian health ministry said it had confirmed 11 wounded in the Israeli raid, seven of them 'wounded by live gunshots'. It said a paramedic shot while trying to get to the wounded was among them.

The health ministry said medics had been alerted to 'a number of killed and injured' inside the camp, but said the army was 'denying them access to tend to the wounded'.

An AFP journalist said paramedics had tried to enter the camp but had been refused access by the army.

Israeli forces say their frequent raids target Palestinian militants, but civilians are often among the dead.

On Friday the health ministry said 16-year-old Qais Fathi Nasrallah was killed by Israeli troops in the nearby Tulkarem refugee camp.

The official Palestinian news agency Wafa said he died after being 'shot in the head by Israeli live gunfire'. It was unclear exactly when he died.

A 30-year-old man, Salim Faisal Ghanem, was 'killed by Israeli troops' on Friday in the Nur Shams camp, Wafa said.

Residents contacted by AFP on Saturday said there was no electricity in the camp and food was running short, saying nobody was allowed to enter or leave.

Minister Muayad Shaaban, head of the Palestinian Colonisation and Wall Resistance Commission, said residents were suffering from the 'destruction of homes, shops, the electricity grid, the sewerage, the water network and infrastructure.'

Around 480 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli troops or settlers in the West Bank since the Hamas assault on Israel triggered the Gaza war, according to Palestinian official sources.​

 

[4MikeEcho]

Iran has killed well over 2500 Israeli's since oct 7th last year bhai, and injured multiple times dat number! Hundreds of IDF soldier amputees today from gunshot/ shrapnel injuries from Hamas/ Hezb/ Kataib weaponry. When yous sitting in dat Merkava tank and that Al-Yasin RPG hits you, the concussion seriously messes you up. Your brain not da same afterwords. Many people commit suicide afterwords from PTSD. And I believe the IDF had a plan to take out our Kahuta back in the early 1980's in a joint op with the Indian AF during the Zia era, not 1998.

Assuming 2,500 number is correct, this is not something to be proud off, given the cost to go into kill these. 1-2 million misplaced and 100-200K injured/wounded and orphans.

I don't count the dead Gazans since they were the lucky ones. The survivors and the injured htat got treated with minimal facilities are the ones with lives in hell.

I admire the Iranians for being the only country that Israel thinks of as a threat. So I would like to think that Iranians were not the ones that engineered this given the lives involved, but that Hamas did it on its own. So please be careful of chest thumping on the did Israelis unless you daily watch the Gazans suffer.

 

[4MikeEcho]

We’ve got col McGregor and Scot Ritter as sources along with middleast eye and so many others saying it now. I’m happy to post the articles/ vidz but the truth now is something everyone was unaware of previously. Israel does not have the means nor da oomph to retaliate. Jericho series IRBMs are the only thing in the IDF arsenal with a reach to strike deep in Iran. So why is Israel not using them? I believe you know the answer to dat. My hunch tells me they don’t got enough of em to make any significant impact and more importantly the IDF is scared that Iranian ABM defenses are robust enough to defeat them, cuz theys old. It will be very embarrassing if Isra-heel launched a full on retaliation and it appears like a child tryin retaliate against an adult. Irans already pulled down Israel’s pants in front of da whole world. All Israel can do is assasinate IRGC officers in foreign countries, and even that activity might come under guarded scrutiny from now on within their gubment. Most of the IDF strikes in da Sy-Raaq are like pounding sand. The ammo stores are in deep underground bunkers and tunnels. There’s no real damage. Everyone knows.

I really want Mcgregor and Scott to be right and I want Iranians to have parity with Israel.

But Scott and Mcregor have both been wrong. They though Russians were going to overrun Ukraine since before the invasion and Russians stuck in stalemate and now $61BN going to Ukraine.

May be in this case they are right but we need to be objective about this and not think Israelis are weaker than they are and Iranians are stronger than they are.

None of us (nor Mcgregor) know the details of Israeli/Iranian parity/weakness. Only Iranians and ISraelis know them.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Post exchange analysis from satellite imagery.

Both countries crossed a threshold and demonstrated what they could do to each other IF they had nukes.

For the ballistic missile that hit the Nevatim air base, with a tactical nuclear warhead, it would have eliminated it.

The Israelis that used likely a Air Launched stand-off weapon like Blue Sparrow or Rocks to destroy an S-300 demonstrated that they can fly right up to 300 miles stand-off range unchallenged over Iraq/Syria and launch a weapon to pinpoint a target like an S-300 and have no trouble. With a nuclear weapon they can repeat this.

Both countries have different philosopies. Iran with mass attack to overwhelm and Israel with precision and stealth. Doesn't mean one is better than the other. Both work for each country.

Thats what they respectively proved in this exchange.

I am all for chest thumping for emotional reasons that Iran is great (and more guts and gusto than all other muslim countries COMBINED), but as given this is pkdefense, we should not mix emotion with reality

Satellite image analyzed by AP shows damage after Iranian attack on Israeli desert air base

An Iranian attack on an Israeli desert air base last week as part of Tehran’s unprecedented assault on the country damaged a taxiway.

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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — An Iranian attack on an Israeli desert air base last week as part of Tehran's unprecedented assault on the country damaged a taxiway, a satellite image analyzed by The Associated Press on Saturday shows.

The overall damage done to Nevatim air base in southern Israel was minor despite Iran launching hundreds of drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. Israeli air defenses and fighter jets, backed by the U.S., the United Kingdom and neighboring Jordan, shot down the vast majority of the incoming fire.

But the Iranian attack last weekend showed Tehran's willingness to use its vast arsenal of ballistic missiles directly against Israel as tensions remain high across the wider Middle East over the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip. An apparent Israeli retaliatory attack Friday on Isfahan, Iran, and Tehran's low-key response to it suggest both countries want to dial back their long-running shadow war for now — though risks of a wider conflagration in the region remain.

The Planet Labs PBC image, taken Friday for the AP, shows fresh blacktop across a taxiway near hangars at the southern part of Nevatim air base, about 65 kilometers (40 miles) south of Jerusalem. The daily newspaper Haaretz, which published lower-resolution images of the site Thursday, identified the hangars nearby as housing C-130 cargo aircraft flown by transport squadrons.



The satellite image corresponds to footage earlier released by the Israeli military, which showed construction equipment working on the damaged taxiway. A hangar in the background of the video mirrors those seen nearby.

Other images released by the Israeli military showed a crater in the sand and damage under what appeared to be a wall that it said came from the Iranian attack. The little visible damage seen at the air base in the satellite image directly contradicts Iran's efforts to portray the attack as a great victory to a public alienated by the Islamic Republic's cratering economy and its heavy-handed crackdowns on dissent in recent years.

"This operation became a sign of the power of the Islamic Republic and its armed forces," Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said Friday. "It also showed the steely determination of our nation and our wise leader, the commander of all forces."

However, it does show Iran's arsenal has the ability to reach Israel, as the April 13 attack marked the first direct military assault on the country by a foreign nation since Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein launched Scud missiles at Israel in the 1991 Gulf War.

 

[Old School]

It wasn't Black Sparrow but ‘Rampage system’. ISRAEL has successfully hit an Iranian S-300 site in that day near Natanz with the “Rampage’ supersonic air launched missile without being detected.

Report: Israel used air-to-surface missile called ‘The Rampage’ in Iran attack

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Old School]

India also has the Israeli Rampage missile system for its navy.

🇮🇳 - Indian Navy MiG-29 Received Israeli Rampage Missiles which hit Iranian S-300 site

The Indian Navy has increased the lethality of its MiG-29 combat jets with the integration of Israeli-made Rampage missiles. As reported by The War Zone, the carrier-based fighter aircraft was seen carrying the precision-guided weapon under its wings. Another photo on social media showed some...

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