World JF-17 Thunder: Myanmar Takes Delivery Of 6 Russian Su-30 Fighters As China-Pak Jet “Remains Troubled”

[Bilal9]

@Jiangnan what is it that you don't understand?

I hope the pictures are visible.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Myanmar HAS a fleet of 16 JF-17 fighters which were delivered - starting in 2018.

That may be case but for this particular purchase, light weight fighter was not under consideration. No country buys a heavy weight fighter if they have requirement of light weight fighter.

 

[Jiangnan]

@Jiangnan what is it that you don't understand?

I hope the pictures are visible.

sorry. I've been on Xiaohongshu for the last 48 hours. Look at the Chinese and Americans "exchanging secret intelligence”.

I don't understand this fighter at all

 

[Bilal9]

sorry. I've been on for the last 48 hours. Look at the Chinese and Americans "exchanging secret intelligence”.

I don't understand this fighter at all

OK I see.

No issues - all good. Tiktok is officially banned.

I don't have a Xiaohongshu account yet.

Enjoy.

 

[Bilal9]

That may be case but for this particular purchase, light weight fighter was not under consideration. No country buys a heavy weight fighter if they have requirement of light weight fighter.

I think you need a new primer on Air Force fleet roles.

Even for trainer fleet, every Air Force has Ab initio trainers, then Lead-in trainers. Lighter/heavier, faster/slower.

Ditto with heavy and light Fighters - Point defense interceptors and Fighter-Bombers. You need both kinds. You cannot use one kind for the role of another. So - Myanmar ordering both kinds of fighter is not illogical.

This time, for a lighter lead-in trainer, they ordered the FTC-2000G, which is way cheaper than the JF-17.

$8 Million for the FTC-2000G vs. $26 Million for the JF-17. Two platforms are not comparable, different roles.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I think you need a new primer on Air Force fleet roles.

Even for trainer fleet, every Air Force has Ab initio trainers, then Lead-in trainers. Lighter/heavier, faster/slower.

Ditto with heavy and light Fighters - Point defense interceptors and Fighter-Bombers. You need both kinds. You cannot use one kind for the role of another. So - Myanmar ordering both kinds of fighter is not illogical.

This time, for a lighter lead-in trainer, they ordered the FTC-2000G, which is way cheaper than the JF-17.

$8 Million for the FTC-2000G vs. $26 Million for the JF-17. Two platforms are not comparable, different roles.

You are not getting my point. Airforce need all categories of fighters but the do not but heavy weight fighter when there is a tender for light weight fighter. If they want light weight fighter, they will only consider JF17, Tejas, Gripen etc. It will never be a case when they put forward the requirement of light fighter and ends up buying heavy weight fighter.

 

[Guru Dutt]

I think you need a new primer on Air Force fleet roles.

Even for trainer fleet, every Air Force has Ab initio trainers, then Lead-in trainers. Lighter/heavier, faster/slower.

Ditto with heavy and light Fighters - Point defense interceptors and Fighter-Bombers. You need both kinds. You cannot use one kind for the role of another. So - Myanmar ordering both kinds of fighter is not illogical.

This time, for a lighter lead-in trainer, they ordered the FTC-2000G, which is way cheaper than the JF-17.

$8 Million for the FTC-2000G vs. $26 Million for the JF-17. Two platforms are not comparable, different roles.

you said it Trainer is very different from a Strike Fighter bomber ...do you get it ??????

let me explain in real terms

JF17 has very limited cability as a Strike fighter bomber with just 3200Kg on 6+1(POD) pylon and in that too with even full fuel it can have at best 350 to 450Km fighting radius or 30 to 45 Minutes of endurence so it needs to dedicate at least two main pylons for 1200Ltrs fuel tanks which means slashing another 1.6 Tonne to its left with just 1.6T of weapons load and 4 pylons and if on two of them it has twin missile racks say for PL-12 or PL-10 and two for two LGBs or PGMs thats less than 1/4th of what a Su30 ME carries in a single sortie with 2XWVRs and 2XBVRs that too for almost 900 fighting or combat radius of three hours of endurence on internal fuel only

 

[Bilal9]

You are not getting my point. Airforce need all categories of fighters but the do not but heavy weight fighter when there is a tender for light weight fighter. If they want light weight fighter, they will only consider JF17, Tejas, Gripen etc. It will never be a case when they put forward the requirement of light fighter and ends up buying heavy weight fighter.

I think what YOU don't understand is that Myanmar is literally a Banana Republic.

They don't care what they get as long as Aung Hlaing and the other Myanmar Bamar generals get their percentage deposited in the S'pore banks.

AF requirements be damned which are mainly an afterthought.