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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India
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Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.
Krishna with Flute said:
Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.

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~He says that Indian air defence S 400 worked batter than Russian S 400 because of batter integration with other systems
~He said that Air defence of Russia is batter than the AD of Europe and AD of India was batter than that of Russia..
~He said that Pakistan has nothing to show except the pictures from social media to claim victory.
~ He says that there is very low possibility that Pakistan may recover from this attack in near future of few years.
~ He said that Pakistan is in no position to deploy it's nuclear weapons now.
 
Krishna with Flute said:
Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.


~He says that Indian air defence S 400 worked batter than Russian S 400 because of batter integration with other systems
~He said that Air defence of Russia is batter than the AD of Europe and AD of India was batter than that of Russia..
~He said that Pakistan has nothing to show except the pictures from social media to claim victory.
~ He says that there is very low possibility that Pakistan may recover from this attack in near future of few years.
~ He said that Pakistan is in no position to deploy it's nuclear weapons now.
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If India really wants to discredit all Pakistani claims and blow everything out of the water, they should line up all 36 Rafales in a neat row.

And invite that mexican looking Aurangzeb half chief to view it no?
 
Krishna with Flute said:
Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.


~He says that Indian air defence S 400 worked batter than Russian S 400 because of batter integration with other systems
~He said that Air defence of Russia is batter than the AD of Europe and AD of India was batter than that of Russia..
~He said that Pakistan has nothing to show except the pictures from social media to claim victory.
~ He says that there is very low possibility that Pakistan may recover from this attack in near future of few years.
~ He said that Pakistan is in no position to deploy it's nuclear weapons now.
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Definite scope for us being senior partner in development of the next Brahmos (A?) and the S500 with the Russkies.

Get a jet engine from the Russians with complete in house manufacture. Build swarms of local fighter jets.

Pick up the Su57 over the exorbitant Rafale.

Just completely stop fking around now for our defensive offense with anything the West makes.

Till we are actually a military power atmanirbhar in our own right, have Russia 100% with us.

We cannot survive a near peer war or a wider world war (not necessarily great war WWI or WWII scale. But definitely Eurasian) without the protection of one of the two superpowers.

And America will never be that one. No matter how lovingly we suck.
 
Vsdoc said:
Definite scope for us being senior partner in development of the next Brahmos (A?) and the S500 with the Russkies.

Get a jet engine from the Russians with complete in house manufacture. Build swarms of local fighter jets.

Pick up the Su57 over the exorbitant Rafale.

Just completely stop fking around now for our defensive offense with anything the West makes.

Till we are actually a military power atmanirbhar in our own right, have Russia 100% with us.

We cannot survive a near peer war or a wider world war (not necessarily great war WWI or WWII scale. But definitely Eurasian) without the protection of one of the two superpowers.

And America will never be that one. No matter how lovingly we suck.
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The equation in Pakistan is clear. The military decides what it wants, and gets the budget (big or small) for it. Then it works around it. In India babus and gormint decides what military should get and from whom. And it changes every 5 years. So no supplier treats us seriously. We will forever have to live with this khichdi of thought process. The bamman wastes too much time in analysis paralysis, the baniya only wants ROI. Together it is a disaster of a procurement strategy.
 
Krishna with Flute said:
Pakistani media mocks Shabaz sharif for presenting him the 2019 picture of presented as the picture of Operation Sindoor. They advise Shahbaz Sharif that he should have chosen a correct picture which can not easily be identified.

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Note the journalists still buy the Rafale and S400 claims.

In the online trolling world, this phenomenon or technique is valled Gish Gallop.

That is, say so many lies confidently, that eventually some will be bought, just by fact checking fatigue. As the recipient or listener either prioritizes what to cross check (new, more recent lies) or simply gets swamped.

In the real world its the equivalent of flinging potty at a wall. Fling enough of it, long enough, and some of it will stick.
 
Krishna with Flute said:
Modi advices Pakistan youth to stand against terrorism. Sukun ki roti Khao varna meri goli to hai hi.

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It's cringe how it is always 'Main' 'Mera' 'Modi ka' with him. It's never 'us' and 'we'. I understand it was initially a part of a cult building exercise, but now it is simply cringe. Indian Military is simply 'Modi ki goli'? Are they Modi's tattus?
 
Paitoo said:
It's cringe how it is always 'Main' 'Mera' 'Modi ka' with him. It's never 'us' and 'we'. I understand it was initially a part of a cult building exercise, but now it is simply cringe. Indian Military is simply 'Modi ki goli'? Are they Modi's tattus?
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You fkn said it.
 
Paitoo said:
It's cringe how it is always 'Main' 'Mera' 'Modi ka' with him. It's never 'us' and 'we'. I understand it was initially a part of a cult building exercise, but now it is simply cringe. Indian Military is simply 'Modi ki goli'? Are they Modi's tattus?
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Imran Khan always spoke to the nation like a father. He always said "Mera Pakistanio".
 
Vsdoc said:
Israel playbook.

Netanyahu addressing the youth of Iran.

@Lulldapull
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main aap ko bol ra thaa doc......baybasi ka aalam dekho aap bhai......

Tehraan main Shehbaz bichara bettha hae minatain maang ra hae kuchh to day do na.......

Bhai hum kya karain ab?

Pezeshkian gaand na dikha day doc, dill toot jaey ga. Kuchh to day day yaar.

Bhai Shahid 136 drone to day do na? ager hypersonic nahi denay? we can't even hit back man......its a dire situ man.

Trump to hamain kutta bana day ga if we go begging, which we are inevitably heading toward unfortunately.
 
Lulldapull said:
main aap ko bol ra thaa doc......baybasi ka aalam dekho aap bhai......

Tehraan main Shehbaz bichara bettha hae minatain maang ra hae kuchh to day do na.......

Bhai hum kya karain ab?

Pezeshkian gaand na dikha day doc, dill toot jaey ga. Kuchh to day day yaar.

Bhai Shahid 136 drone to day do na? ager hypersonic nahi denay? we can't even hit back man......its a dire situ man.

Trump to hamain kutta bana day ga if we go begging, which we are inevitably heading toward unfortunately.
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Your best bet is to become a full fledged vassal state of the US.

But then you are guaranteed encirclement by 3 enemy states from all sides.

And China gonna go cold.

I do not see a second option.

Give the US air bases and your ports to dock their fleet and nuclear subs.

Admit that Independence for 75 odd years, from gora rule, was an aberration for you.

An experiment that failed.

That you are not a fit people to run a nation. And nowhere close to being ready for self rule.
 
Vsdoc said:
Your best bet is to become a full fledged vassal state of the US.

But then you are guaranteed encirclement by 3 enemy states from all sides.

And China gonna go cold.

I do not see a second option.

Give the US air bases and your ports to dock their fleet and nuclear subs.

Admit that Independence for 75 odd years, from gora rule, was an aberration for you.

An experiment that failed.

That you are not a fit people to run a nation. And nowhere close to being ready for self rule.
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Bilkul.......issy liye hamain banaya bhee gya thaa doc......its come full circle no?

Total neo-colonial outpost.
 
Lulldapull said:
Bilkul.......issy liye hamain banaya bhee gya thaa doc......its come full circle no?

Total neo-colonial outpost.
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Sadly yes.

You were made for Britain to tide over WWII losses and fatigue.

The plan being to come back and take it all. When they had recovered, rebuilt and could.

Unfortunately in the interim Britain became colonized by colludz. And a third world country.

US being the bustard child will however take up the slack.

India was the fly in the ointment.

No one predicted India would survive quick balkanization.

And actually grow to where it is today.
 

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