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These BSF guys have crossed their limits. The home ministry should give shoot at sight order to kill BSF goons.
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These BSF b*stards have crossed their limits. The home ministry should give shoot at sight order to kill BSF goons.
India didn't save us from Pakistan in 1971. We fought alone for 9 months(from 25th March to 3rd December) and the Indian army was nowhere to be seen until December 3rd when they moved in East Pakistan. It is the Indian army who saved the Pakistanis from Mukti bahini by sending the Pakistani prisoners of war to India. Learn the history first before you shoot off your mouth.India should have let Pakistan finish it's job in 71.
Lmao, without BSF arming and training Mukti Bahini, it would not be able to do a thing, and would have been crushed, just like how Pakistan crushed the Sindh issue.India didn't save us from Pakistan in 1971. We fought alone for 9 months(from 25th March to 3rd December) and the Indian army was nowhere to be seen until December 3rd when they moved in East Pakistan. It is the Indian army who saved the Pakistanis from Mukti bahini by sending the Pakistani prisoners of war to India. Learn the history first before you shoot off your mouth.
Don't talk rubbish! You mean to say a paramilitary force, BSF, armed and trained Mukti Bahini against one of the most professional armies in Asia( Pakistan army)? What sorts of training and weapons did BSF had at that time? Were they trained and armed like a professional army? BSF was a paramilitary force who were trained and armed to policing the border. They were not trained or armed like an army. So their training and weapons were not needed by the Mukti bahini. Never dare lecturing me about Bangladesh's history, Okay?Lmao, without BSF arming and training Mukti Bahini, it would not be able to do a thing, and would have been crushed, just like how Pakistan crushed the Sindh issue.
You should learn history first before lecturing me.
Looks like the heavy madrasa education set up by the traitors who killed Mujib has deeply left you misinformed.Don't talk rubbish! You mean to say a paramilitary force, BSF, armed and trained Mukti Bahini against one of the most professional armies in Asia( Pakistan army)? What sorts of training and weapons did BSF had at that time? Were they trained and armed like a professional army? BSF was a paramilitary force who were trained and armed to policing the border. They were not trained or armed like an army. So their training and weapons were not needed by the Mukti bahini. Never dare lecturing me about Bangladesh's history, Okay?
BSF is a paramilitary force and is not trained and armed to face a challenge from a professional army. It is you who need some education about BSF and its capability. Most of the training of Mukti Bahini was conducted by the East Bengal regiment while some training was conducted by the Indian army in Dehradun. The Indian army trained Mujib bahini who never took part in our liberation war. They were given responsibilities of crushing the Mizo rebels in Chittagong Hill Tracts and killing pro-chinese freedom fighters in Bangladesh. India moved in East Pakistan so late because they waited until the Mukti Bahini cornered the Pakistani army by blowing up important infrastructure and severing military supply line within East Pakistan. Another reason for the Indian army to move in East Pakistan so late because of Monsoon. Manekshaw rejected Indira Gandhis proposal to declare a war on Pakistan in April because in Monsoon the rivers in East Pakistan swell and flood the low lying land. Mukti bahini conducted a guerilla war against the Pakistani army but the Pakistani army was not trained to face such a non-conventional military tactic. This is the main reason for the success of Mukti Bahini against the Pakistani army. Had there was no Mukti Bahini, the Indian army would not dare to move into East Pakistan.Looks like the heavy madrasa education set up by the traitors who killed Mujib has deeply left you misinformed.
I would even say BSF is on par with the Pakistani Army, armed to fight them off till heavy reinforcements from the Army would arrive. Your lack of knowledge about BSF speaks volumes as you spread venom of this capable force.
BSF supplied weapons to Mukti Bahini, trained their cadres, crossed into East Pakistan, facilitated important meetings between Awami League and Indian Government leaders, blew up critical infrastructure to aid in your liberation.
If you think you liberated yourself, you are mistaken. Why did it take till India moved into the war that the Pakistanis left. Even the Americans wanted you dead.
If Mukti Bahini was left by itself, the Pakistanis would have crushed it, and continued it's rule of East Pakistan.
It is unfortunate that you have not been educated properly and have fallen for the propaganda of the old Pro-Pakistan Government of Bangladesh. You telling me to never dare lecture you about history speaks volumes of how you wish to remain in your echo chamber believing that your "truth" is the Supreme truth, away from anyone who would challenge you and your claims.
BSF is a paramilitary force and is not trained and armed to face a challenge from a professional army. It is you who need some education about BSF and its capability. Most of the training of Mukti Bahini was conducted by the East Bengal regiment while some training was conducted by the Indian army in Dehradun. The Indian army trained Mujib bahini who never took part in our liberation war. They were given responsibilities of crushing the Mizo rebels in Chittagong Hill Tracts and killing pro-chinese freedom fighters in Bangladesh. India moved in East Pakistan so late because they waited until the Mukti Bahini cornered the Pakistani army by blowing up important infrastructure and severing military supply line within East Pakistan. Another reason for the Indian army to move in East Pakistan so late because of Monsoon. Manekshaw rejected Indira Gandhis proposal to declare a war on Pakistan in April because in Monsoon the rivers in East Pakistan swell and flood the low lying land. Mukti bahini conducted a guerilla war against the Pakistani army but the Pakistani army was not trained to face such a non-conventional military tactic. This is the main reason for the success of Mukti Bahini against the Pakistani army. Had there was no Mukti Bahini, the Indian army would not dare to move into East Pakistan.
The Mukti Bahini's indomitable spirit is evident in the writings of Indian Lt Gen Jacob. "They achieved significant results in occupation of areas in the interior, demolitions and harassment of the enemy even before hostilities started. They completely demoralised the Pakistan Army, lowering their morale and creating such a hostile environment that their ability to operate was restricted and they were virtually confined to their fortified locations. The overall achievements of the Mukti Bahini and the East Bengal Regiments were enormous. Bangladesh can be proud of them. Their contribution was a crucial element in the operations prior to and during full-scale hostilities. Due credit must be given to their dedicated efforts to achieve the independence of their country," Jacob wrote in his book Surrender at Dacca: Birth of a Nation (Pg 94).
You need some serious history lesson before arguing with me. Have a nice rest of the day.
There is actually a whole book written on the BSF activities during 1971 war in East Pakistan - India’s Secret War: BSF and Nine Months to the birth of Bangladesh by Ushinor MajumdarYou are getting ridiculous by just pointing at the fact that BSF is a paramilitary force. You are forgetting that this was the period a large number of Army regulars were a part of BSF. You are the one who is unable to swallow the fact that BSF has done alot for Bangladesh during the war, given your obsession of putting it down for the sake of your own circlejerk.
If there was no Mukti Bahini and Refugees moving to India, why would India care about Pakistanis killing Pakistanis? 3 million were killed when India intervened, more would have died without India.
Your point of Monsoon being brought up here cannot be comprehended as that was militarily sound, and cannot be used as an argument here.
The Indian Army only trained some, as BSF did the heavy lifting, the same force which you hate just because some Bangladeshis crossed the border illegally.
Without India's intervention, despite how much of a good job Mukti Bahini performed in punishing the Pakistanis, Searchlight would have been easily converted to another similar operation, given the likelihood of their assets in the West being freed.
Pulling up Lt Gen Jacob's writing is an effective way of using different information to obscure the main fact of the matter.
India (via BSF) armed and aided Mukti Bahini to ensure it was an effective fighting force. Yes, the regiment did good, but without outside support, it would not be as effective as it would be.
You need to let go off your hatred to even effectively argue.
You are free to glorify BSF's role during our liberation war but the fact remains the same that your lota carrying BSF was not responsible for training and equipping Mukti Bahini. It was the Indian army and RAW who played the pivotal role in training and equipping M,ukti bahini to fight against the Pakistani army.You are getting ridiculous by just pointing at the fact that BSF is a paramilitary force. You are forgetting that this was the period a large number of Army regulars were a part of BSF. You are the one who is unable to swallow the fact that BSF has done alot for Bangladesh during the war, given your obsession of putting it down for the sake of your own circlejerk.
If there was no Mukti Bahini and Refugees moving to India, why would India care about Pakistanis killing Pakistanis? 3 million were killed when India intervened, more would have died without India.
Your point of Monsoon being brought up here cannot be comprehended as that was militarily sound, and cannot be used as an argument here.
The Indian Army only trained some, as BSF did the heavy lifting, the same force which you hate just because some Bangladeshis crossed the border illegally.
Without India's intervention, despite how much of a good job Mukti Bahini performed in punishing the Pakistanis, Searchlight would have been easily converted to another similar operation, given the likelihood of their assets in the West being freed.
Pulling up Lt Gen Jacob's writing is an effective way of using different information to obscure the main fact of the matter.
India (via BSF) armed and aided Mukti Bahini to ensure it was an effective fighting force. Yes, the regiment did good, but without outside support, it would not be as effective as it would be.
You need to let go off your hatred to even effectively argue.
Yes, that is why I mentioned.You are free to glorify BSF's role during our liberation war but the fact remains the same that your lota carrying BSF was not responsible for training and equipping Mukti Bahini. It was the Indian army and RAW who played the pivotal role in training and equipping M,ukti bahini to fight against the Pakistani army.
India did not help us just because 10 million refugees moved into India to save their lives from the Pakistani army. India helped us in our liberation war to gain its strategic goal of dismembering Pakistan.
Follow the link below to read the article about who trained and equipped Mukti Bahini to fight against the Pakistani army. The author of the article is an India army top brass. Here is the link:
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How the Mukti Bahini was trained
On May 1, 1971, General SHFJ Manekshaw issued the Indian Army Operational Instruction No. 52. A structured policy to provide training facilities and logistical and operational support for the liberation of Bangladesh was prepared by Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, General Officer...www.thedailystar.net
If you can just take some cows across the border, or throw a sack over the fence, there is money. The border guards will allow it, and even the police will guard you. But we have to understand that these people are not the kingpins of cross-border smuggling—they are just carriers.
Sir things aren't black and white as many people think! There are multiple stories in the market , let people decide which one they shall believe!India should have let Pakistan finish it's job in 71.
India should have let Pakistan finish it's job in 71.
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Bangladeshi killed in BSF firing at Lalmonirhat border
A Bangladeshi man was killed when he was shot by Indian Border Security Force (BSF) members near the Lohakuchi border in Kaliganj upazila of Lalmonirhat district early on Wednesday. The deceased, identified as Nurul Islam, 30, was from Lohakuchi area, according to a UNB report. According to BGB athefinancialexpress.com.bd
Bangladeshi killed in BSF firing at Lalmonirhat border
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Jun 26, 2024 11:50
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Lalmonirhat border area Photo : UNB
A Bangladeshi man was killed when he was shot by Indian Border Security Force (BSF) members near the Lohakuchi border in Kaliganj upazila of Lalmonirhat district early on Wednesday.
The deceased, identified as Nurul Islam, 30, was from Lohakuchi area, according to a UNB report.
According to BGB and locals, the incident occurred late at night as a group of Bangladeshis attempted to enter Indian Territory with cattle. At that time, the BSF, patrolling the West Chamta camp on the Indian side, allegedly opened fire on the group. Nurul Islam was shot and died on the spot.
Later, his companions managed to retrieve his body under the cover of darkness and brought it back across the border.
On information, on duty police from the Gorol area recovered Nurul Islam's body and took it to the police station.
Lt Col Mofazzal Hossain Akond, commanding officer of Lalmonirhat-15 BGB, confirmed the incident.
Traitor Sheikh Hasina has no love for Bangladeshis. That's why BSF's killings of Bangladeshis do not sadden her.I guess the way it stands, armed attacks against the BSF by Bangladeshis are now sadly, legit action.
BSF behavior completely legitimizes this philosophy.
I don't know why we are always playing nicey-nice with the BSF.
Enough bullets get spent, they will automatically come running.
Then our BGB can throw up their hands and say, "what can we do?"
Just like the BSF leadership does now.
It is also clear why this guy got killed, clearly some BSF commander did not get his legit cut for smuggling cows.
I don't know if this was posted before. But it shows how BGB (BDR) behaves and how BSF behaves, in terms of professionalism. I must say - I am proud of the BGB commanding officer in this case.
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