[🇮🇷] Breaking! Israel has attacked Iran. Live Coverage

[4MikeEcho]

Iran has killed well over 2500 Israeli's since oct 7th last year bhai, and injured multiple times dat number! Hundreds of IDF soldier amputees today from gunshot/ shrapnel injuries from Hamas/ Hezb/ Kataib weaponry. When yous sitting in dat Merkava tank and that Al-Yasin RPG hits you, the concussion seriously messes you up. Your brain not da same afterwords. Many people commit suicide afterwords from PTSD. And I believe the IDF had a plan to take out our Kahuta back in the early 1980's in a joint op with the Indian AF during the Zia era, not 1998.

Assuming 2,500 number is correct, this is not something to be proud off, given the cost to go into kill these. 1-2 million misplaced and 100-200K injured/wounded and orphans.

I don't count the dead Gazans since they were the lucky ones. The survivors and the injured htat got treated with minimal facilities are the ones with lives in hell.

I admire the Iranians for being the only country that Israel thinks of as a threat. So I would like to think that Iranians were not the ones that engineered this given the lives involved, but that Hamas did it on its own. So please be careful of chest thumping on the did Israelis unless you daily watch the Gazans suffer.

 

[4MikeEcho]

We’ve got col McGregor and Scot Ritter as sources along with middleast eye and so many others saying it now. I’m happy to post the articles/ vidz but the truth now is something everyone was unaware of previously. Israel does not have the means nor da oomph to retaliate. Jericho series IRBMs are the only thing in the IDF arsenal with a reach to strike deep in Iran. So why is Israel not using them? I believe you know the answer to dat. My hunch tells me they don’t got enough of em to make any significant impact and more importantly the IDF is scared that Iranian ABM defenses are robust enough to defeat them, cuz theys old. It will be very embarrassing if Isra-heel launched a full on retaliation and it appears like a child tryin retaliate against an adult. Irans already pulled down Israel’s pants in front of da whole world. All Israel can do is assasinate IRGC officers in foreign countries, and even that activity might come under guarded scrutiny from now on within their gubment. Most of the IDF strikes in da Sy-Raaq are like pounding sand. The ammo stores are in deep underground bunkers and tunnels. There’s no real damage. Everyone knows.

I really want Mcgregor and Scott to be right and I want Iranians to have parity with Israel.

But Scott and Mcregor have both been wrong. They though Russians were going to overrun Ukraine since before the invasion and Russians stuck in stalemate and now $61BN going to Ukraine.

May be in this case they are right but we need to be objective about this and not think Israelis are weaker than they are and Iranians are stronger than they are.

None of us (nor Mcgregor) know the details of Israeli/Iranian parity/weakness. Only Iranians and ISraelis know them.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Post exchange analysis from satellite imagery.

Both countries crossed a threshold and demonstrated what they could do to each other IF they had nukes.

For the ballistic missile that hit the Nevatim air base, with a tactical nuclear warhead, it would have eliminated it.

The Israelis that used likely a Air Launched stand-off weapon like Blue Sparrow or Rocks to destroy an S-300 demonstrated that they can fly right up to 300 miles stand-off range unchallenged over Iraq/Syria and launch a weapon to pinpoint a target like an S-300 and have no trouble. With a nuclear weapon they can repeat this.

Both countries have different philosopies. Iran with mass attack to overwhelm and Israel with precision and stealth. Doesn't mean one is better than the other. Both work for each country.

Thats what they respectively proved in this exchange.

I am all for chest thumping for emotional reasons that Iran is great (and more guts and gusto than all other muslim countries COMBINED), but as given this is pkdefense, we should not mix emotion with reality

Satellite image analyzed by AP shows damage after Iranian attack on Israeli desert air base

An Iranian attack on an Israeli desert air base last week as part of Tehran’s unprecedented assault on the country damaged a taxiway.

apnews.com

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — An Iranian attack on an Israeli desert air base last week as part of Tehran's unprecedented assault on the country damaged a taxiway, a satellite image analyzed by The Associated Press on Saturday shows.

The overall damage done to Nevatim air base in southern Israel was minor despite Iran launching hundreds of drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. Israeli air defenses and fighter jets, backed by the U.S., the United Kingdom and neighboring Jordan, shot down the vast majority of the incoming fire.

But the Iranian attack last weekend showed Tehran's willingness to use its vast arsenal of ballistic missiles directly against Israel as tensions remain high across the wider Middle East over the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip. An apparent Israeli retaliatory attack Friday on Isfahan, Iran, and Tehran's low-key response to it suggest both countries want to dial back their long-running shadow war for now — though risks of a wider conflagration in the region remain.

The Planet Labs PBC image, taken Friday for the AP, shows fresh blacktop across a taxiway near hangars at the southern part of Nevatim air base, about 65 kilometers (40 miles) south of Jerusalem. The daily newspaper Haaretz, which published lower-resolution images of the site Thursday, identified the hangars nearby as housing C-130 cargo aircraft flown by transport squadrons.



The satellite image corresponds to footage earlier released by the Israeli military, which showed construction equipment working on the damaged taxiway. A hangar in the background of the video mirrors those seen nearby.

Other images released by the Israeli military showed a crater in the sand and damage under what appeared to be a wall that it said came from the Iranian attack. The little visible damage seen at the air base in the satellite image directly contradicts Iran's efforts to portray the attack as a great victory to a public alienated by the Islamic Republic's cratering economy and its heavy-handed crackdowns on dissent in recent years.

"This operation became a sign of the power of the Islamic Republic and its armed forces," Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said Friday. "It also showed the steely determination of our nation and our wise leader, the commander of all forces."

However, it does show Iran's arsenal has the ability to reach Israel, as the April 13 attack marked the first direct military assault on the country by a foreign nation since Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein launched Scud missiles at Israel in the 1991 Gulf War.

 

[Old School]

It wasn't Black Sparrow but ‘Rampage system’. ISRAEL has successfully hit an Iranian S-300 site in that day near Natanz with the “Rampage’ supersonic air launched missile without being detected.

Report: Israel used air-to-surface missile called ‘The Rampage’ in Iran attack

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Old School]

India also has the Israeli Rampage missile system for its navy.

🇮🇳 - Indian Navy MiG-29 Received Israeli Rampage Missiles which hit Iranian S-300 site

The Indian Navy has increased the lethality of its MiG-29 combat jets with the integration of Israeli-made Rampage missiles. As reported by The War Zone, the carrier-based fighter aircraft was seen carrying the precision-guided weapon under its wings. Another photo on social media showed some...

www.pkdefense.com

 

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Look Israel attacked Iran first. So Iran has a right to retaliate against Israel.

Israel should not have attacked Iran in the first place.

We have to be impartial and honest here.

 

[Lulldapull]

I really want Mcgregor and Scott to be right and I want Iranians to have parity with Israel.

But Scott and Mcregor have both been wrong. They though Russians were going to overrun Ukraine since before the invasion and Russians stuck in stalemate and now $61BN going to Ukraine.

May be in this case they are right but we need to be objective about this and not think Israelis are weaker than they are and Iranians are stronger than they are.

None of us (nor Mcgregor) know the details of Israeli/Iranian parity/weakness. Only Iranians and ISraelis know them.

I believe the Russian war strategy in Ukraine is one of 'submission via attrition', not conquest. The Iranians are successfully using the same strategy against their rivals from Herat to Haifa. It paid off handsomely in Yemen and Afghanistan. It also paid off dividends in da SyRaaq, where Iran's got a quarter million militia members doing its bidding. You wear down your opponents with constant attacks, harassment and putting dem under siege surrounding them with heavily armed well trained and motivated dug in guerilla forces. The Russians too have adopted this cunning tactic when they've made a deep incursion into eastern Ukraine and created fortifications and kill zones which have killed and injured 500k Urainian troops along with thousands of NATO volunteers/ mercs. The area just beyond the Donbas is a gigantic meat grinder where precision artillery/ ATGMs and land attack ballistic/ ALCM's/ ALBM's smash down on the repeated but failed Ukrainian military offensives. This is also been the Iranian tactic in the SyRaaq, successfully used against Daesh/ ISIS and other regional western backed forces. Conquest automatically comes, when your opponent loses his will to fight. And evidently is a very sudden event. So I believe Russia and Iran have the upper hand in all these theaters of operations. War is never fun bro.......but it is what it is. Russia and Iran are motivated and have an imperial agenda (as a culture/ legacy). We in the subcontinent can't relate to this, cuz we've never done any of this nor do we ever plan on doing it. The west is hard pressed to counter Russia and Iran.

 

[Saif]

Khamenei praises ‘success’ of military after Israel attack

Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei praised the country’s armed forces for their ‘success’ in his first public comments since Tehran launched an unprecedented direct attack on Israel last week...

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Khamenei praises 'success' of military after Israel attack
Agence France-Presse . Tehran 21 April, 2024, 23:05

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei praised the country's armed forces for their 'success' in his first public comments since Tehran launched an unprecedented direct attack on Israel last week.

In a meeting with Iranian military commanders on Sunday, Khamenei praised the armed forces for their 'success in recent events', a week after the country's first-ever direct attack on Israel from its own territory.

'The armed forces showed a good image of their abilities and power and an admirable image of the Iranian nation,' Khamenei said. 'They also proved the emergence of the power of the Iranian nation's determination at the international level.'

The remarks from Iran's supreme leader are the first since Iran attacked Israel and since a reported Israeli attack on a military airbase in central Isfahan province on Friday.

'The armed forces' recent achievements have created a sense of splendour and magnificence about Islamic Iran in the eyes of the world,' Khamenei said in quotes posted on his official X account.

The Friday strike, which Khamenei did not mention, was a presumed response to Iran's unprecedented drone and missile attack on Israel which was itself a retaliation for an airstrike on the Iranian consular building in Damascus.

That attack, widely blamed on Israel, levelled the consular annex of the Iranian embassy and killed seven members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, including two generals.

Israel said it intercepted 99 per cent of the more than 300 drones and missiles fired at it, with the aid of the United States and other allies and that those which got through caused only minor damage.

Addressing his country's attack on Israel, Khamenei said 'the issue of the number of missiles fired or the missiles that hit the target' was 'secondary'.

'The main issue is the emergence of the willpower of the Iranian nation and the armed forces in the international arena,' he said, according to his official website.

Iran and Israel appeared to have stepped back from the brink of a broader conflict following Friday's attack, which Iranian foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian appeared to downplay to US media on Saturday.

Speaking to NBC News, he dismissed it as 'no attack' and said the weapons used were 'at the level of toys', adding that if there was 'no new adventure' by Israel then Iran 'will have no response'.

The comments helped to dampen fears of an all-out war between the arch-foes which could spread into a wider regional conflict.​