[🇨🇳] China vs USA

[Lulldapull]

Iran is too small geographically, population and resource wise to be a superpower. If Iran plays its cards wisely, it could become a regional power by 2050.

This is Iran today bhai:

What is Iran’s ‘axis of resistance’ and why is it uniting in fury against the US and Israel?

The Shia militant groups operating in Iraq, Lebanon and other parts of the Middle East share political and ideological connections, yet they also have their own nationalist goals.

theconversation.com

Iran's already bigger than India. Chinese can't fight, and don't want to either. They are passive/ peaceful businessmen like the Hindus. Not empire builders.

Irans already eclipsed Sawdi Judea, Al-Turkiya and Pakistan combined in geo-politics long ago. These wars you see in the ME are a confirmation of this reality. Soon Iran will make Israel its toady and the muslim world will look on in dismay.

 

[Saif]

US aircraft flies over Taiwan Strait

Beijing said yesterday it deployed air and naval forces to monitor a US military plane as it flew over politically sensitive waters separating China and Taiwan.

www.thedailystar.net

US aircraft flies over Taiwan Strait
China deploys air, naval forces

Beijing said yesterday it deployed air and naval forces to monitor a US military plane as it flew over politically sensitive waters separating China and Taiwan.

"A US Navy P-8A Poseidon transited the Taiwan Strait in international airspace on November 26, 2024 (local time)," the US Navy's 7th Fleet said in a statement.

"The aircraft's transit of the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the United States' commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific."

China said it had monitored the aircraft and condemned the flight for being "openly hyped".

"US remarks distort legal principles, confuse the public and mislead international perception," said Cao Jun, a senior colonel for China's Eastern Theatre Air Force.​

 

[Saif]

China says it ‘firmly opposes’ US military aid to Taiwan

China said Sunday it ‘firmly opposed’ US president Joe Biden’s approval of $571.3 million in defence assistance for Taiwan.

www.newagebd.net

China says it ‘firmly opposes’ US military aid to Taiwan
Agence France-Presse . Beijing 22 December, 2024, 22:18

China said Sunday it ‘firmly opposed’ US president Joe Biden’s approval of $571.3 million in defence assistance for Taiwan.

The White House said Friday that Biden had authorised the drawdown ‘of up to $571.3 million in defence articles and services of the Department of Defence, and military education and training, to provide assistance to Taiwan’.

The White House statement did not provide details of the military assistance package, which comes less than three months after one worth $567 million was authorised.

‘This move gravely infringes on China’s sovereignty and security interests,’ Beijing’s foreign ministry said in a statement, adding it ‘firmly opposes this action’.

China ‘has lodged stern representations with the US at the earliest opportunity’, it said.

The country’s Taiwan Affairs Office said such actions by the US ‘contradict its leaders’ serious commitments’ to not supporting ‘Taiwan independence’.

‘We demand that the US immediately cease arming Taiwan and handle the Taiwan issue with the utmost caution,’ said spokeswoman Zhu Fenglian, according to state broadcaster CCTV.

The United States does not officially recognise Taiwan diplomatically, but it is the self-ruled island’s strategic ally and largest supplier of weapons.

China, which has ramped up political and military pressure on Taiwan in recent years, has repeatedly called for Washington to cease sending arms and assistance to the island, which it claims as part of its territory.

Taiwan received 38 advanced Abrams battle tanks from the United States this week — reportedly its first new tanks in 30 years.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Man nobody takes China seriously. Their whole economy/ existence tied into the corporate capitalist west.

Anybody denying this is a foolish colored person in conflict with himself and uneasy living in western society.....lol

 

[Saif]

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory. The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan
UNB
Published :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42
Updated :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42

The American and Chinese flags wave at Genting Snow Park, Feb. 2, 2022, in Zhangjiakou, China. Photo : AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory.

The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government’s annual defense spending bill, which a Chinese Foreign Ministry statement said “includes multiple negative sections on China.”

China objects to American military assistance for Taiwan and often imposes sanctions on related companies after a sale or aid package is announced. The sanctions generally have a limited impact, because American defense companies don’t sell arms or other military goods to China. The U.S. is the main supplier of weapons to Taiwan for its defense.

The seven companies being sanctioned are Insitu Inc., Hudson Technologies Co., Saronic Technologies, Inc., Raytheon Canada, Raytheon Australia, Aerkomm Inc. and Oceaneering International Inc., the Foreign Ministry statement said. It said that “relevant senior executives” of the companies are also sanctioned, without naming any.

Any assets they have in China will be frozen, and organizations and individuals in China are prohibited from engaging in any activity with them, it said.

U.S. President Joe Biden last week authorized up to $571 million in Defense Department material and services and military education and training for Taiwan. Separately, the Defense Department announced that $295 million in military sales had been approved.

The U.S. defense bill boosts military spending to $895 billion and directs resources toward a more confrontational approach to China. It establishes a fund that could be used to send military resources to Taiwan in much the same way that the U.S. has backed Ukraine. It also expands a ban on U.S. military purchases of Chinese products ranging from drone technology to garlic for military commissaries.

Zhang Xiaogang, a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesperson, said earlier this week that the U.S. is hyping up the “so-called” threat from China to justify increased military spending.

“U.S. military spending has topped the world and keeps increasing every year,” he said at a press conference. “This fully exposes the belligerent nature of the U.S. and its obsession with hegemony and expansion.”

The Foreign Ministry statement said the U.S. moves violate agreements between the two countries on Taiwan, interfere in China’s domestic affairs and undermine the nation’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Taiwan’s government said earlier this month that China had sent dozens of ships into nearby seas to practice a blockade of the island, a move that Taiwan said undermined peace and stability and disrupted international shipping and trade. China has not confirmed or commented on the reported military activity.​

 

[Bilal9]

Man nobody takes China seriously. Their whole economy/ existence tied into the corporate capitalist west.

Anybody denying this is a foolish colored person in conflict with himself and uneasy living in western society.....lol

Aaaaaa - I wouldn't be so quick to characterize it like that. Although I respect your opinion. Hear me out.

After a while (and it has been a while) - China has now mostly absorbed most critical industrial technologies from the West and is now self-sufficient in internal consumption (and technology) and not so much dependent on the West. Their internal markets (for example automobile market alone) - is bigger than that of the US and the largest in the world. They are also far ahead in mfg. and consumption of EV technology.

Automotive industry in China - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They have developed their own passenger airliner (two models COMAC C909 and C919) and will soon go into another model (C929 - equal to a B787), which will all soon be powered by their own turbofan engines.

This new EV model (AITO M9) was a JV between MBZ and Huawei and uses Chinese developed EV tech.

Bangladesh is an interesting market for Chinese luxury automobiles, and although the numbers are small - it is remarkable because former Infiniti and Lexus owners (some of them my friends) are buying these (Haval is one of the brands).

After a while a country like China becomes less and less dependent - for its economy, on outside trade or outside technology. China has passed that threshold sometime ago.

Brother @Jiangnan - would you agree with my assessment?

 

[Lulldapull]

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory. The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

China sanctions 7 companies over US military assistance to Taiwan
UNB
Published :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42
Updated :
Dec 27, 2024 20:42

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The American and Chinese flags wave at Genting Snow Park, Feb. 2, 2022, in Zhangjiakou, China. Photo : AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato

The Chinese government placed sanctions on seven companies on Friday in response to recent U.S. announcements of military sales and aid to Taiwan, the self-governing island that China claims as part of its territory.

The sanctions also come in response to the recent approval of the U.S. government’s annual defense spending bill, which a Chinese Foreign Ministry statement said “includes multiple negative sections on China.”

China objects to American military assistance for Taiwan and often imposes sanctions on related companies after a sale or aid package is announced. The sanctions generally have a limited impact, because American defense companies don’t sell arms or other military goods to China. The U.S. is the main supplier of weapons to Taiwan for its defense.

The seven companies being sanctioned are Insitu Inc., Hudson Technologies Co., Saronic Technologies, Inc., Raytheon Canada, Raytheon Australia, Aerkomm Inc. and Oceaneering International Inc., the Foreign Ministry statement said. It said that “relevant senior executives” of the companies are also sanctioned, without naming any.

Any assets they have in China will be frozen, and organizations and individuals in China are prohibited from engaging in any activity with them, it said.

U.S. President Joe Biden last week authorized up to $571 million in Defense Department material and services and military education and training for Taiwan. Separately, the Defense Department announced that $295 million in military sales had been approved.

The U.S. defense bill boosts military spending to $895 billion and directs resources toward a more confrontational approach to China. It establishes a fund that could be used to send military resources to Taiwan in much the same way that the U.S. has backed Ukraine. It also expands a ban on U.S. military purchases of Chinese products ranging from drone technology to garlic for military commissaries.

Zhang Xiaogang, a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesperson, said earlier this week that the U.S. is hyping up the “so-called” threat from China to justify increased military spending.

“U.S. military spending has topped the world and keeps increasing every year,” he said at a press conference. “This fully exposes the belligerent nature of the U.S. and its obsession with hegemony and expansion.”

The Foreign Ministry statement said the U.S. moves violate agreements between the two countries on Taiwan, interfere in China’s domestic affairs and undermine the nation’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Taiwan’s government said earlier this month that China had sent dozens of ships into nearby seas to practice a blockade of the island, a move that Taiwan said undermined peace and stability and disrupted international shipping and trade. China has not confirmed or commented on the reported military activity.​

Oh bhai please......China is a US toady.......Its fairly obvious no?

Just like Al-Turkiya or Al-Qaeda Arabs too no?

Lets get real.

I never seen one china weapon ever being used against da west no?

Iran far ahead of china in modern weaponry. We see Iranian weapons being used all over with varying degrees of success.

Nobody wanna buy china weapons. And when we saw CH-4/ Wingloongs in action, they all got shot down.

I don't even know what else to say here.

 

[Bilal9]

Oh bhai please......China is a US toady.......Its fairly obvious no?

Just like Al-Turkiya or Al-Qaeda Arabs too no?

Lets get real.

I never seen one china chickunn weapon being used against da west no?

Iran far ahead of china chickunn in modern weaponry.

Nobody wanna buy china chickunn weapons.

I don't even know what else to say here.

Okay - but please explain why you think it is a " US toady"

 

[Lulldapull]

Okay - but please explain why you think it is a " US toady"

Its a US toady because all its economy is tied in with the US......Without western intervention/ assistance, China would've still been smoking da peace pipe no? The West propped em up to counter the USSR.....you know all this no?

Its also a toady because the west allows it access to proprietary technology upon western decisions.

Anybody can see right thru this no?

 

[Jiangnan]

Its a US toady because all its economy is tied in with the US......Without western intervention/ assistance, China would've still been smoking da peace pipe no? The West propped em up to counter the USSR.....you know all this no?

Its also a toady because the west allows it access to proprietary technology upon western decisions.

Anybody can see right thru this no?

MacArthur: Why didn't you become my Chief of Staff at that time?

 

[Jiangnan]

Oh bhai please......China is a US toady.......Its fairly obvious no?

Just like Al-Turkiya or Al-Qaeda Arabs too no?

Lets get real.

I never seen one china weapon ever being used against da west no?

Iran far ahead of china in modern weaponry. We see Iranian weapons being used all over with varying degrees of success.

Nobody wanna buy china weapons. And when we saw CH-4/ Wingloongs in action, they all got shot down.

I don't even know what else to say here.

one example: Beidou Navigation. Iran only uses Beidou navigation.

Didn't you see the link I gave you? Or did you intentionally forget it?

Chinese Laser Anti-Drone System Spotted In Iran

A very high-profile appearance by Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given us a glimpse at some of China's latest counter-drone technology.

www.twz.com

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-helps-iran-supply-drones-to-russia-quickly-investigators-say-dd492264

As for whether Chinese weapons are fighting against the West/Russia.



Now I'm telling you. Chinese Robot dogs can arm both Russian and Ukrainian armies simultaneously.

My question is. You know nothing about modern technology. Or intentionally forgetting certain information?

 

[Lulldapull]

MacArthur: Why didn't you become my Chief of Staff at that time?

Dude, all your economy tied into the western capitalist corporate system. Just like da hendu too no?

Yous both trying yer level best in suckin up.

Its been so long too no?

 

[Lulldapull]

one example: Beidou Navigation. Iran only uses Beidou navigation.

Didn't you see the link I gave you? Or did you intentionally forget it?

Chinese Laser Anti-Drone System Spotted In Iran

A very high-profile appearance by Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given us a glimpse at some of China's latest counter-drone technology.

www.twz.com

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-helps-iran-supply-drones-to-russia-quickly-investigators-say-dd492264

As for whether Chinese weapons are fighting against the West/Russia.



Now I'm telling you. Chinese Robot dogs can arm both Russian and Ukrainian armies simultaneously.

My question is. You know nothing about modern technology. Or intentionally forgetting certain information?

China refuses to deal with Iran outta fear of da west.

Only military customers of China weapons are Pakistan North Korea Tanzania Nigeria and Myanmar.

All of these are harmless countries.

 

[Lulldapull]

MacArthur: Why didn't you become my Chief of Staff at that time?

Japan got nuked twice!.......you were next in 1952........thank god sanity prevailed.

 

[Jiangnan]

Dude, all your economy tied into the western capitalist corporate system. Just like da hendu too no?

Yous both trying yer level best in suckin up.

Its been so long too no?

of course. We are the G-2 Alliance. Same level allies. We can rely on each other or be instantly separated. Always according to our political demands.

and you?

You're just a dish on the table. Why discuss the person who takes utensils?