[🇨🇳] China vs USA

[Saif]

China is a US client state.

Are you sure?

 

[Lulldapull]

Are you sure?

Of course it is. The US and China doing $800 billion in annual trade yaar. Everything else takes a backseat no?

China supports Pakistans military junta and the one in Myanmar. Both brutal military dictatorships.

China also supports the entire GCC architecture and never confronts the US.

Taiwan issue is just a gimmick to fool everyone that there’s discord.

It’s all about the money. Nothing else.

 

[Saif]

It’s all about the money. Nothing else.

Do you really believe China puts money over sovereignty when it comes to dealing with the USA?

 

[Lulldapull]

Do you really believe China puts money over sovereignty when it comes to dealing with the USA?

Of course! What has China done on Taiwan yet?

Nothing!

Without the US transferring its manufacturing to China 30 years ago, China’s rise would not be possible.

China was also at odds with the former USSR, hence became a natural ally of the US. The US outsourcing its manufacturing over to China was its reward for opposing the USSR.

 

[Saif]

Of course! What has China done on Taiwan yet?

Nothing!

Without the US transferring its manufacturing to China 30 years ago, China’s rise would not be possible.

China was also at odds with the former USSR, hence became a natural ally of the US. The US outsourcing its manufacturing over to China was its reward for opposing the USSR.

The world was different during cold war. In 2024, China considers America as their number one enemy. All of Chinese military preparations are aimed at defeating the US armed forces in South China sea. The reason China doesn't engage with the USA in a war is because of its limitations in power projection capabilities. China has a grand plan to surpass the US in military might within 2050. We will see USA as a declining power 2050 onwards.

 

[Lulldapull]

The world was different during cold war. In 2024, China considers America as their number one enemy. All of Chinese military preparations are aimed at defeating the US armed forces in South China sea. The reason China doesn't engage with the USA in a war is because of its limitations in power projection capabilities. China has a grand plan to surpass the US in military might within 2050. We will see USA as a declining power 2050 onwards.

Oh bhai, let’s get real here. Chinese are an introverted civilization since their beginnings from 3 millennium ago no?

They are businessmen, not an empire! Never were and never will be.

Leave the empire building to the iranis. They are challenging the US along with Russia, not China. China does exactly what the US says.

 

[Saif]

Oh bhai, let’s get real here. Chinese are an introverted civilization since their beginnings from 3 millennium ago no?

They are businessmen, not an empire! Never were and never will be.

Leave the empire building to the iranis. They are challenging the US along with Russia, not China. China does exactly what the US says.

Iran is too small geographically, population and resource wise to be a superpower. If Iran plays its cards wisely, it could become a regional power by 2050.

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran is too small geographically, population and resource wise to be a superpower. If Iran plays its cards wisely, it could become a regional power by 2050.

This is Iran today bhai:

What is Iran’s ‘axis of resistance’ and why is it uniting in fury against the US and Israel?

The Shia militant groups operating in Iraq, Lebanon and other parts of the Middle East share political and ideological connections, yet they also have their own nationalist goals.

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Iran's already bigger than India. Chinese can't fight, and don't want to either. They are passive/ peaceful businessmen like the Hindus. Not empire builders.

Irans already eclipsed Sawdi Judea, Al-Turkiya and Pakistan combined in geo-politics long ago. These wars you see in the ME are a confirmation of this reality. Soon Iran will make Israel its toady and the muslim world will look on in dismay.