East Asia Complete Failure of Chinese weaponry in Indo-Pak conflict of 2025

[Sharma Ji]

Not nobody would sell us, it’s just that we don’t got da money baby….

Third rate cheeni maal lay letay hain basically at cost.

Pata chal gya ab k third rate maal kisy kaam ka nahi hae.

Na he lo to behtar hae.

Aik bhee brahmos ya scalp nahi intercepted by hq-9 or hq-16…..

This is very fukked up sharma….

Yes, given a choice they'd have gone for f-17 block 70 or something.

Ek time pe there were discussions at the old old place that they were in talks for Eurofighters but fell through.

Sweden are known to do their own thing, Gripen failed to meet whatever criteria maybe ?

 

[Vsdoc]

Test drive toh hamare pilots ne li thi, technical assessment was our qualified guys' job.

Who knows, kickbacks ki kya kahani hai (historically also)

Jo bhi hai, now we stuck with Rafale.. 40 something Ms now for the Navy.. eventually it'll be the backbone with at least the planned 126, likely more.

Too late now to back out now, we gotta see it through.

Going fwd pata nahi what they'll do with our ageing fleet, it sure is a cause for concern.

We did the same with the French Mirage ages ago.

 

[Vsdoc]

Yes, given a choice they'd have gone for f-17 block 70 or something.

Ek time pe there were discussions at the old old place that they were in talks for Eurofighters but fell through.

Sweden are known to do their own thing, Gripen failed to meet whatever criteria maybe ?

Gripen is the Walmart fighter of the fighter jet club. Great for Sweden and their industry. But ideally that's the role what our Tejas should have filled.

 

[Sharma Ji]

We did the same with the French Mirage ages ago.

They proven to be decent but, right ? Ek time pe they were the designated for nuke delivery.. now I guess they can strap a nuke on a brahmos on multiple platforms.

I think it was also the Mirages, quickly upgraded by the Israelis during Kargil and they did a pretty stellar job.

 

[Sharma Ji]

yup:

How Israel Helped India Win The Air War During Kargil

In 1997, two years prior to Kargil, India had signed a contract for the Israeli pods. Fifteen were to be procured for the Jaguar aircraft and five were meant for the Mirage 2000 squadrons.

www.ndtv.com

 

[Vsdoc]

They proven to be decent but, right ? Ek time pe they were the designated for nuke delivery.. now I guess they can strap a nuke on a brahmos on multiple platforms.

I think it was also the Mirages, quickly upgraded by the Israelis during Kargil and they did a pretty stellar job.

My point was about niche role limited numbers. Letting the Russkies do the heavy lifting.

 

[Sharma Ji]

My point was about niche role limited numbers. Letting the Russkies do the heavy lifting.

We still operating a fleet of 250+ MKIs that will be around for at least a decade.

 

[Vsdoc]

We still operating a fleet of 250+ MKIs that will be around for at least a decade.

How many Mirage 2000s do we operate?

 

[Sharma Ji]

still one of the most advanced flankers anywhere on earth

bested only by the RuAF SU-35s

dunno what China have done with their licence produced ones

 

[Vsdoc]

How many Mirage 2000s do we operate?

50.

That was my point.

Its not the numbers. Its what we do with them.

And we have been operating and refurbishing and modifying and upgrading them since the 1980s.