[🇵🇰] Eight terrorists killed during IBO in North Waziristan:

[Vsdoc]

Doc, you raise valid concerns about foreign interference and the tragic fate of many Middle Eastern nations, no one wants to see Iran broken or exploited. But let’s be clear: The Pahlavis, for all their flaws, were not mere ‘Western plants.’ They built institutions, drove industrialization, and maintained a degree of sovereignty that allowed Iran to be a regional power, not a proxy battlefield. Comparing them to modern Saudi Arabia oversimplifies history; Iran under the Shah had its own agency, even as it aligned with the West during the Cold War.

As for the Revolution, its original ideals whether democratic, nationalist, or even religious were indeed hijacked by hardliners, and the result has been catastrophic for ordinary Iranians. The Islamic Republic’s policies have isolated Iran economically, radicalized its politics, and turned it into a pariah state all while claiming to resist ‘imperialism.’ Yet today, Iran’s regime fuels conflicts abroad and represses its people at home, making it vulnerable to the very foreign exploitation you fear.

No one wants chaos for Iran. But the current regime’s trajectory, militarization, isolation, and internal repression is what risks fracturing the country, not nostalgia for the past. A stable, sovereign Iran would need a government that prioritizes its people over ideology and regional adventurism. As a Pakistani, I’ve seen how the Islamic Republic’s actions have harmed my country too. That’s not anti-Iranian sentiment, it’s a critique of a regime that has failed its own citizens and its neighbors alike.

That being said, the current scion of the Pehlavi dynasty looks like a village idiot compared to his father. On top of that, he's a proven cuck. What a fall eh

Whatever change has to come to Iran, has got to be organic and driven by Iranians.

It is their country.

The US is no one.

 

[Lulldapull]

Doc, you raise valid concerns about foreign interference and the tragic fate of many Middle Eastern nations, no one wants to see Iran broken or exploited. But let’s be clear: The Pahlavis, for all their flaws, were not mere ‘Western plants.’ They built institutions, drove industrialization, and maintained a degree of sovereignty that allowed Iran to be a regional power, not a proxy battlefield. Comparing them to modern Saudi Arabia oversimplifies history; Iran under the Shah had its own agency, even as it aligned with the West during the Cold War.

As for the Revolution, its original ideals whether democratic, nationalist, or even religious were indeed hijacked by hardliners, and the result has been catastrophic for ordinary Iranians. The Islamic Republic’s policies have isolated Iran economically, radicalized its politics, and turned it into a pariah state all while claiming to resist ‘imperialism.’ Yet today, Iran’s regime fuels conflicts abroad and represses its people at home, making it vulnerable to the very foreign exploitation you fear.

No one wants chaos for Iran. But the current regime’s trajectory, militarization, isolation, and internal repression is what risks fracturing the country, not nostalgia for the past. A stable, sovereign Iran would need a government that prioritizes its people over ideology and regional adventurism. As a Pakistani, I’ve seen how the Islamic Republic’s actions have harmed my country too. That’s not anti-Iranian sentiment, it’s a critique of a regime that has failed its own citizens and its neighbors alike.

That being said, the current scion of the Pehlavi dynasty looks like a village idiot compared to his father. On top of that, he's a proven cuck. What a fall eh

Problem though is that the GCC k bhungi all agreed to suck dick along with the turkiyan guppu people too. All their money is deposited in the west and they are only allowed to buy junk eff-sola or third class Chinese weapons which don’t even work bhai. Then big western corporations enter the fray and take up all infrastructure work and suck up all the remaining cash too. The 1000 dalit princes are allowed to have some money for hookers and partying and the Turks allowed to sell liquor and cater to western tourists on budget travel packages. Hendu-Pak slave labor erects tall buildings and keeps streets clean so as long as population is low in the GCC.

Hamain Pakistan main to Kuchh nahi mila ye sub kar k……our country is not even livable anymore due to security reasons.

Iran cannot agree to slavery like the other dalit countries have accepted.

Iranians will hang anyone who accepts slavery as the path forward as suggested by trump sahb.

 

[steppeWolff]

The exact same can be said about the British in undivided India.

Bottom line was that they were planted in place of Mossadegh to get the oil.

The British in India were colonial occupiers, an outright foreign power extracting resources and suppressing local sovereignty for 200 years. The Pehlavis, for all their faults and ties to the West, were an Iranian dynasty that modernized the country, expanded education, and maintained independence in foreign policy, something Mossadegh himself acknowledged when he served as Prime Minister under the Shah.

Yes, the 1953 coup replaced Mossadegh to secure Western oil interests but that doesn’t negate the fact that the Shah’s Iran was still a functioning state with growing infrastructure, universities, and global ties. Compare that to today’s Islamic Republic; a regime that has turned Iran into an international pariah, gutted its economy through incompetence and sanctions, and spends billions on proxies while Iranians starve. If resisting imperialism means making your own people poorer, less free, and more isolated than under a monarchy, then the Revolution has failed on its own terms.

The real tragedy is that Iran today is more vulnerable to foreign exploitation than ever and not because of the Pehlavis, but because the regime’s brutality and adventurism have left it with few allies and a collapsing economy. If you want to prevent Iran’s oil rapine, then the first step is rejecting a government that prioritizes ideological zeal over national survival.

Note: I am in no way a monarchy supporter. I am a critic of the current IRI regime, compared to it, even the Monarchy looks good.

 

[steppeWolff]

Problem though is that the GCC k bhungi all agreed to suck dick along with the turkiyan guppu people too. All their money is deposited in the west and they are only allowed to buy junk eff-sola or third class Chinese weapons which don’t even work bhai. Then big western corporations enter the fray and take up all infrastructure work and suck up all the remaining cash too. The 1000 dalit princes are allowed to have some money for hookers and partying and the Turks allowed to sell liquor and cater to western tourists on budget travel packages. Hendu-Pak slave labor erects tall buildings and keeps streets clean so as long as population is low in the GCC.

Hamain Pakistan main to Kuchh nahi mila ye sub kar k……our country is not even livable anymore due to security reasons.

Iran cannot agree to slavery like the other dalit countries have accepted.

Iranians will hang anyone who accepts slavery as the path forward as suggested by trump sahb.

Okay. Let’s separate the chaff from wheat and the slogans from reality.

The GCC states have transactional relationships with the West but do not pretend that Iran’s "resistance" model has brought prosperity or sovereignty either. Unlike the Gulf, Iran has:

A crumbling currency, with the rial among the world’s worst performing.
A brain drain of millions of educated Iranians fleeing repression.
An economy strangled by sanctions, not because of slavery’l but because the regime prioritizes missiles over markets and proxies over people.

The Gulf monarchies may be flawed, but their people have infrastructure, jobs, and relative stability. Meanwhile, Iranians queue for bread, sell kidneys to survive, and get shot protesting for basic rights. If that’s resistance, then it’s a resistance that only benefits the mullah regime and not the ordinary Iranians.

As for Pakistan, our problems are self-inflicted too but at least we don’t pretend ANYMORE that starving our own people while funding foreign militias is some kind of defiance.

The IRI’s biggest failure is turning Iran, a civilization with 3,000 years of history, into a glorified garrison state.

 

[Vsdoc]

The British in India were colonial occupiers, an outright foreign power extracting resources and suppressing local sovereignty for 200 years. The Pehlavis, for all their faults and ties to the West, were an Iranian dynasty that modernized the country, expanded education, and maintained independence in foreign policy, something Mossadegh himself acknowledged when he served as Prime Minister under the Shah.

Yes, the 1953 coup replaced Mossadegh to secure Western oil interests but that doesn’t negate the fact that the Shah’s Iran was still a functioning state with growing infrastructure, universities, and global ties. Compare that to today’s Islamic Republic; a regime that has turned Iran into an international pariah, gutted its economy through incompetence and sanctions, and spends billions on proxies while Iranians starve. If resisting imperialism means making your own people poorer, less free, and more isolated than under a monarchy, then the Revolution has failed on its own terms.

The real tragedy is that Iran today is more vulnerable to foreign exploitation than ever and not because of the Pehlavis, but because the regime’s brutality and adventurism have left it with few allies and a collapsing economy. If you want to prevent Iran’s oil rapine, then the first step is rejecting a government that prioritizes ideological zeal over national survival.

Note: I am in no way a monarchy supporter. I am a critic of the current IRI regime, compared to it, even the Monarchy looks good.

I am not a Shah supporter. Even though under the Shah Parsis were almost on the brink of moving back to Iranian soil.

Not permanently. But initially as industries and townships. Who knows what after that.

I am definitely not a Mulla supporter. That much is obvious to anyone who knows vsdoc.

 

[Vsdoc]

Coincidentally, the Toad croaks

@Lulldapull

 

[Lulldapull]

Coincidentally, the Toad croaks

@Lulldapull

Iranis are all totally secular. Nobody goes to prayer or worship completely like western countries. Pakistanis are AL-Qaeda people compared to iranis.

 

[Lulldapull]

Okay. Let’s separate the chaff from wheat and the slogans from reality.

The GCC states have transactional relationships with the West but do not pretend that Iran’s "resistance" model has brought prosperity or sovereignty either. Unlike the Gulf, Iran has:

A crumbling currency, with the rial among the world’s worst performing.
A brain drain of millions of educated Iranians fleeing repression.
An economy strangled by sanctions, not because of slavery’l but because the regime prioritizes missiles over markets and proxies over people.

The Gulf monarchies may be flawed, but their people have infrastructure, jobs, and relative stability. Meanwhile, Iranians queue for bread, sell kidneys to survive, and get shot protesting for basic rights. If that’s resistance, then it’s a resistance that only benefits the mullah regime and not the ordinary Iranians.

As for Pakistan, our problems are self-inflicted too but at least we don’t pretend ANYMORE that starving our own people while funding foreign militias is some kind of defiance.

The IRI’s biggest failure is turning Iran, a civilization with 3,000 years of history, into a glorified garrison state.

GCC k dalit are few million sitting on huge oil n gas and totally governed by the west. Trump just went over there and snatched $5.6 trillion from them. Dunya bhar ka slave labor working for a pittance doing the hard yards. Of course they got it good. They are owned and operated by the west as colonial outposts. AL-Turkiya is a Muslim rundi khana where they like I said custom tailored for budget tour deals for the poorer EU crowd. That’s their economy bhai, same in poor old egypt sub saalay hand to mouth dalit k bachay. These are not countries. These are all Muslim colonies under western administrative control. In ka koi future nahi hae bhai. I don’t believe they can even stand on their own.

Iranis despite sanctions got 80 million population with a per capita of $8000. They have good education good medical reasonable infrastructure despite sanctions.

In our country bhai we are on a $3 dollar a day survival mode. Hum to bhookay murr rahay hain. We are truly in dire straits. Our future is seriously up in the air where we can literally disintegrate any moment. Bohot he bura haal hae. I don’t see us making it thru these tough times.

Now our military has been humiliated too and it was a real body blow. I’m actually worried now.

Iran is multiple levels better off than us in every imaginable metric and they actually do have a shot at being a great country.

 

[Vsdoc]

Iranis are all totally secular. Nobody goes to prayer or worship completely like western countries. Pakistanis are AL-Qaeda people compared to iranis.

Being "secular" (actually atheist or at best agnostic) is a shitty place to be in for such a proud race which gave the world its oldest religion.

Its a place which will have Jew and Christian vultures descending on.

That is absolutely not acceptable.

 

[Lulldapull]

Being "secular" (actually atheist or at best agnostic) is a shitty place to be in for such a proud race which gave the world its oldest religion.

Its a place which will have Jew and Christian vultures descending on.

That is absolutely not acceptable.

EU ko dekh lo bhai……I lived in Australia for a decade and if your colleagues found out you went to church, then you were ostracized at work for being low IQ.

The atheist Jew has influenced western society and it’s caught on in Iran too no?

 

[Vsdoc]

EU ko dekh lo bhai……I lived in Australia for a decade and if your colleagues found out you went to church, then you were ostracized at work for being low IQ.

The atheist Jew has influenced western society and it’s caught on in Iran too no?

I have had this discussion too many times ro count bro with overseas clueless Iranis.

They look at us as some sort of fundamentalist mullas or rabbis. But Zarathushti.

 

[Lulldapull]

I have had this discussion too many times ro count bro with overseas clueless Iranis.

They look at us as some sort of fundamentalist mullas or rabbis. But Zarathushti.

Vohi baat hae na bhai........anything western is Hollywood.......aur apnay khud k log lund pe charrhain.

Its an incurable disease.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

Worked with many Irani engineers over the years and its the same story......you ask em that why did you leave your country......its not like yous from a shiit-hole like Egypt or our poor ol Pakistan or Sudan or India......and the answer is always the same.......oh I too wanted that hollywood lifestyle......

 

[Vsdoc]

Vohi baat hae na bhai........anything western is Hollywood.......aur apnay khud k log lund pe charrhain.

Its an incurable disease.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

Worked with many Irani engineers over the years and its the same story......you ask em that why did you leave your country......its not like yous from a shiit-hole like Egypt or our poor ol Pakistan or Sudan or India......and the answer is always the same.......oh I too wanted that hollywood lifestyle......

Sirji it is 1400 years of Islamic revisionism and denialism.

Where Zoroastrianism has been maligned and myths built around it.

Our libraries and texts burned and destroyed.

Our temples converted to mosques.

Their patron deities, gods and goddesses, given Islamic names and histories.

Right from being a messianic faith to being some sort of black sorcery (majoos is basically the genesis of magic) to being the original faith and word of God that was corrupted by power and empires and Emperors.

I've heard it all. I am but one man. I do not have a clue where to begin on an alien population of 60 million.

 

[Vsdoc]

https://swarajyamag.com/culture/the-religion-that-the-iranian-mullahs-fear-most

@Lulldapull you must have read this earlier.

 

[Bagheera0084]

Stand with your brothers. And fight to secede and join Iran.

But Waziristsn is in NWFP. Does NWFP too have links with Iran like Balochistan has?