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Doc, you raise valid concerns about foreign interference and the tragic fate of many Middle Eastern nations, no one wants to see Iran broken or exploited. But let’s be clear: The Pahlavis, for all their flaws, were not mere ‘Western plants.’ They built institutions, drove industrialization, and maintained a degree of sovereignty that allowed Iran to be a regional power, not a proxy battlefield. Comparing them to modern Saudi Arabia oversimplifies history; Iran under the Shah had its own agency, even as it aligned with the West during the Cold War.

As for the Revolution, its original ideals whether democratic, nationalist, or even religious were indeed hijacked by hardliners, and the result has been catastrophic for ordinary Iranians. The Islamic Republic’s policies have isolated Iran economically, radicalized its politics, and turned it into a pariah state all while claiming to resist ‘imperialism.’ Yet today, Iran’s regime fuels conflicts abroad and represses its people at home, making it vulnerable to the very foreign exploitation you fear.

No one wants chaos for Iran. But the current regime’s trajectory, militarization, isolation, and internal repression is what risks fracturing the country, not nostalgia for the past. A stable, sovereign Iran would need a government that prioritizes its people over ideology and regional adventurism. As a Pakistani, I’ve seen how the Islamic Republic’s actions have harmed my country too. That’s not anti-Iranian sentiment, it’s a critique of a regime that has failed its own citizens and its neighbors alike.

That being said, the current scion of the Pehlavi dynasty looks like a village idiot compared to his father. On top of that, he's a proven cuck. What a fall eh

Whatever change has to come to Iran, has got to be organic and driven by Iranians.

It is their country.

The US is no one.
 
Doc, you raise valid concerns about foreign interference and the tragic fate of many Middle Eastern nations, no one wants to see Iran broken or exploited. But let’s be clear: The Pahlavis, for all their flaws, were not mere ‘Western plants.’ They built institutions, drove industrialization, and maintained a degree of sovereignty that allowed Iran to be a regional power, not a proxy battlefield. Comparing them to modern Saudi Arabia oversimplifies history; Iran under the Shah had its own agency, even as it aligned with the West during the Cold War.

As for the Revolution, its original ideals whether democratic, nationalist, or even religious were indeed hijacked by hardliners, and the result has been catastrophic for ordinary Iranians. The Islamic Republic’s policies have isolated Iran economically, radicalized its politics, and turned it into a pariah state all while claiming to resist ‘imperialism.’ Yet today, Iran’s regime fuels conflicts abroad and represses its people at home, making it vulnerable to the very foreign exploitation you fear.

No one wants chaos for Iran. But the current regime’s trajectory, militarization, isolation, and internal repression is what risks fracturing the country, not nostalgia for the past. A stable, sovereign Iran would need a government that prioritizes its people over ideology and regional adventurism. As a Pakistani, I’ve seen how the Islamic Republic’s actions have harmed my country too. That’s not anti-Iranian sentiment, it’s a critique of a regime that has failed its own citizens and its neighbors alike.

That being said, the current scion of the Pehlavi dynasty looks like a village idiot compared to his father. On top of that, he's a proven cuck. What a fall eh
Problem though is that the GCC k bhungi all agreed to suck dick along with the turkiyan guppu people too. All their money is deposited in the west and they are only allowed to buy junk eff-sola or third class Chinese weapons which don’t even work bhai. Then big western corporations enter the fray and take up all infrastructure work and suck up all the remaining cash too. The 1000 dalit princes are allowed to have some money for hookers and partying and the Turks allowed to sell liquor and cater to western tourists on budget travel packages. Hendu-Pak slave labor erects tall buildings and keeps streets clean so as long as population is low in the GCC.

Hamain Pakistan main to Kuchh nahi mila ye sub kar k……our country is not even livable anymore due to security reasons.

Iran cannot agree to slavery like the other dalit countries have accepted.

Iranians will hang anyone who accepts slavery as the path forward as suggested by trump sahb.
 
The exact same can be said about the British in undivided India.

Bottom line was that they were planted in place of Mossadegh to get the oil.
The British in India were colonial occupiers, an outright foreign power extracting resources and suppressing local sovereignty for 200 years. The Pehlavis, for all their faults and ties to the West, were an Iranian dynasty that modernized the country, expanded education, and maintained independence in foreign policy, something Mossadegh himself acknowledged when he served as Prime Minister under the Shah.

Yes, the 1953 coup replaced Mossadegh to secure Western oil interests but that doesn’t negate the fact that the Shah’s Iran was still a functioning state with growing infrastructure, universities, and global ties. Compare that to today’s Islamic Republic; a regime that has turned Iran into an international pariah, gutted its economy through incompetence and sanctions, and spends billions on proxies while Iranians starve. If resisting imperialism means making your own people poorer, less free, and more isolated than under a monarchy, then the Revolution has failed on its own terms.

The real tragedy is that Iran today is more vulnerable to foreign exploitation than ever and not because of the Pehlavis, but because the regime’s brutality and adventurism have left it with few allies and a collapsing economy. If you want to prevent Iran’s oil rapine, then the first step is rejecting a government that prioritizes ideological zeal over national survival.

Note: I am in no way a monarchy supporter. I am a critic of the current IRI regime, compared to it, even the Monarchy looks good.
 
Problem though is that the GCC k bhungi all agreed to suck dick along with the turkiyan guppu people too. All their money is deposited in the west and they are only allowed to buy junk eff-sola or third class Chinese weapons which don’t even work bhai. Then big western corporations enter the fray and take up all infrastructure work and suck up all the remaining cash too. The 1000 dalit princes are allowed to have some money for hookers and partying and the Turks allowed to sell liquor and cater to western tourists on budget travel packages. Hendu-Pak slave labor erects tall buildings and keeps streets clean so as long as population is low in the GCC.

Hamain Pakistan main to Kuchh nahi mila ye sub kar k……our country is not even livable anymore due to security reasons.

Iran cannot agree to slavery like the other dalit countries have accepted.

Iranians will hang anyone who accepts slavery as the path forward as suggested by trump sahb.
Okay. Let’s separate the chaff from wheat and the slogans from reality.

The GCC states have transactional relationships with the West but do not pretend that Iran’s "resistance" model has brought prosperity or sovereignty either. Unlike the Gulf, Iran has:

A crumbling currency, with the rial among the world’s worst performing.
A brain drain of millions of educated Iranians fleeing repression.
An economy strangled by sanctions, not because of slavery’l but because the regime prioritizes missiles over markets and proxies over people.

The Gulf monarchies may be flawed, but their people have infrastructure, jobs, and relative stability. Meanwhile, Iranians queue for bread, sell kidneys to survive, and get shot protesting for basic rights. If that’s resistance, then it’s a resistance that only benefits the mullah regime and not the ordinary Iranians.

As for Pakistan, our problems are self-inflicted too but at least we don’t pretend ANYMORE that starving our own people while funding foreign militias is some kind of defiance.

The IRI’s biggest failure is turning Iran, a civilization with 3,000 years of history, into a glorified garrison state.
 
The British in India were colonial occupiers, an outright foreign power extracting resources and suppressing local sovereignty for 200 years. The Pehlavis, for all their faults and ties to the West, were an Iranian dynasty that modernized the country, expanded education, and maintained independence in foreign policy, something Mossadegh himself acknowledged when he served as Prime Minister under the Shah.

Yes, the 1953 coup replaced Mossadegh to secure Western oil interests but that doesn’t negate the fact that the Shah’s Iran was still a functioning state with growing infrastructure, universities, and global ties. Compare that to today’s Islamic Republic; a regime that has turned Iran into an international pariah, gutted its economy through incompetence and sanctions, and spends billions on proxies while Iranians starve. If resisting imperialism means making your own people poorer, less free, and more isolated than under a monarchy, then the Revolution has failed on its own terms.

The real tragedy is that Iran today is more vulnerable to foreign exploitation than ever and not because of the Pehlavis, but because the regime’s brutality and adventurism have left it with few allies and a collapsing economy. If you want to prevent Iran’s oil rapine, then the first step is rejecting a government that prioritizes ideological zeal over national survival.

Note: I am in no way a monarchy supporter. I am a critic of the current IRI regime, compared to it, even the Monarchy looks good.
I am not a Shah supporter. Even though under the Shah Parsis were almost on the brink of moving back to Iranian soil.

Not permanently. But initially as industries and townships. Who knows what after that.

I am definitely not a Mulla supporter. That much is obvious to anyone who knows vsdoc.
 

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