[🇵🇰] Imran Khan's Return - November 24th Rally Updates

[Vsdoc]

Bhai it was BJP that brought CAA and it was Congress & so called Opposition that oppossed CAA by saying it will pave way to send muslims to pakistan of all muslims that stayed back in 1947... hence they said "KAAGAZ NAHI DIKHAUNGAA"

The Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) aims to protect individuals who have sought refuge in India due to religious persecution.The CAA removes barriers for acquiring Indian citizenship for Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis and Christians from the neighbouring countries of Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan who arrived in India on or before 31 December 2014

CAA was fro non muslim minorities in Bangladesh , Afghanistan and pakistan facing religious prosecution and not from indian side against indian muslims

Who is eligible for CAA?


Who is eligible to apply for citizenship under CAA? The CAA applies exclusively to Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist, Parsi, and Christian foreigners who migrated from three countries – Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan - to India before December 31, 2014, due to religious persecution

problem is or the fact ofthe matter was opposition and its ecosystem mnaged by english media and communists in India confoused or created a confussing smoke screes between NRC (National Citizen Register)& CAA(Citizenship Amendmend Act)


as for DALITs well even owr last President Ram Nath Kovind was a DALIT while PM MODI is a OBC and current president of India is a AADIVASI/TRIBAL Women... unlike Pakistan we cannot use names like Bhangee, churra , chamaar or changarr, mochee , dhobee naee tailee and if we do we will be jailed without bail and even using caste names on cars like jatt, rao rana , rajpoot or bhramin on your car or bike gets you heavy fine from traffic while in pakistan you guys flaunt your so called castes while there is no concept of caste in islam
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Bro slight correction, if I may as a paapi paleed Congressi.

Kagaj nahin dikhaunga was for NRC. Not CAA.

Both tend to be talked about in the same breath. But are actually very very different things. And have different connotations for different groups of Indians.

 

[Guru Dutt]

Bro slight correction, if I may as a paapi paleed Congressi.

Kagaj nahin dikhaunga was for NRC. Not CAA.

Both tend to be talked about in the same breath. But are actually very very different things. And have different connotations for different groups of Indians.

Bhai i live In delhi just 18 Km away from where these protests where organised and one of the main organozers in these protests in my batchmate so please bhai ... aap rehne de mujhe maloom hain i have seen myself what hapenned in shaheen baag had been there myself more than half a dozen times during anty CAA protests

 

[Vsdoc]

Bhai i live In delhi just 18 Km away from where these protests where organised and one of the main organozers in these protests in my batchmate so please bhai ... aap rehne de mujhe maloom hain i have seen myself what hapenned in shaheen baag had been there myself more than half a dozen times during anty CAA protests

I know that. All I'm saying is that people having a problem with CAA was about wholesale entry of unvetted Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Afghans into India. After 7+ decades. Where were the guarantees that a large percentage of these would not be Muslim masquerading as other religions. Plus the security concerns of thousands of aliens. And of course the cribbing of sections of our own Muslims that why not Muslims as well (persecuted terminology expansion for secular equality).

NRC on the other hand is a serious tool open to abuse. And directly impacts the citizenship of Indians already living in India.

Two completely different issues. There is simply no comparison.

And it is naive or blinkered to think that everyone is a fool (except BJP wallas) and does not know the difference.

 

[Lulldapull]

Bhai it was BJP that brought CAA and it was Congress & so called Opposition that oppossed CAA by saying it will pave way to send muslims to pakistan of all muslims that stayed back in 1947... hence they said "KAAGAZ NAHI DIKHAUNGAA"

The Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) aims to protect individuals who have sought refuge in India due to religious persecution.The CAA removes barriers for acquiring Indian citizenship for Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis and Christians from the neighbouring countries of Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan who arrived in India on or before 31 December 2014

CAA was fro non muslim minorities in Bangladesh , Afghanistan and pakistan facing religious prosecution and not from indian side against indian muslims

Who is eligible for CAA?


Who is eligible to apply for citizenship under CAA? The CAA applies exclusively to Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist, Parsi, and Christian foreigners who migrated from three countries – Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan - to India before December 31, 2014, due to religious persecution

problem is or the fact ofthe matter was opposition and its ecosystem mnaged by english media and communists in India confoused or created a confussing smoke screes between NRC (National Citizen Register)& CAA(Citizenship Amendmend Act)


as for DALITs well even owr last President Ram Nath Kovind was a DALIT while PM MODI is a OBC and current president of India is a AADIVASI/TRIBAL Women... unlike Pakistan we cannot use names like Bhangee, churra , chamaar or changarr, mochee , dhobee naee tailee and if we do we will be jailed without bail and even using caste names on cars like jatt, rao rana , rajpoot or bhramin on your car or bike gets you heavy fine from traffic while in pakistan you guys flaunt your so called castes while there is no concept of caste in islam
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Oh bhai I never questioned CAA or its validity or rationale. My posting of that phunny vid was that Indians talking about dalits in Af-Pak when 90% of India itself is dalit.

 

[Guru Dutt]

I know that. All I'm saying is that people having a problem with CAA was about wholesale entry of unvetted Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Afghans into India. After 7+ decades. Where were the guarantees that a large percentage of these would not be Muslim masquerading as other religions. Plus the security concerns of thousands of aliens. And of course the cribbing of sections of our own Muslims that why not Muslims as well (persecuted terminology expansion for secular equality).

NRC on the other hand is a serious tool open to abuse. And directly impacts the citizenship of Indians already living in India.

Two completely different issues. There is simply no comparison.

And it is naive or blinkered to think that everyone is a fool (except BJP wallas) and does not know the difference.

With all deu respect why what and how was India divided in 1947 on basis of MUSLIMS CANNOT LIVE WITH HINDUS & other NON MUSLIMS , thats why they dint spared either bhudists or the sikhs or even the parsis and christians from religious prosecution in whats now Pakistan Bandladesh or Afghnistan

and if you belive that prosection of religious minorities is same scale in India as in Pakistan , bangladesh or adfghanistan if you belive that then its your problem not mine

 

[Guru Dutt]

Oh bhai I never questioned CAA or its validity or rationale. My posting of that phunny vid was that Indians talking about dalits in Af-Pak when 90% of India itself is dalit.

but you were saying as if BJP or current MODI govt had a problem with CAA or NRC while it is other way around ... its the so called sekular lobby @ Congress led opposition I.N.D.I.Allaince parties and its communist ecosystem funded by people like George Soros and Ford Foundation that organised and gave intellectul and international media hype to so called anty CAA & Farm laws protests .... but what hapenned in the end

1. Congress still could not make it in 2024 LS elections and MODI became PM for third time
2. BJP came back to power in centre nd Haryana , Rajasthan , MP and Mahrashtra
3. Congress and its ecosystem got itself exposed yet again deu to infightin and social media

 

[Vsdoc]

With all deu respect why what and how was India divided in 1947 on basis of MUSLIMS CANNOT LIVE WITH HINDUS & other NON MUSLIMS , thats why they dint spared either bhudists or the sikhs or even the parsis and christians from religious prosecution in whats now Pakistan Bandladesh or Afghnistan

and if you belive that prosection of religious minorities is same scale in India as in Pakistan , bangladesh or adfghanistan if you belive that then its your problem not mine

You are simply not getting my point.

And the discussion on NRC and CAA is not relevant to this thread.

Cheers, Doc

 

[VCheng]

And Pakistanis then, as East Pakistanis in 1971, will turn to their Hindu brothers, and the Indian Army.

To deliver them. To save them. To give them back a country of their own.

It might happen, but certainly not likely, at least for a few decades yet. These present troubles will settle down, yet again, in a manner entirely in keeping with the way Pakistan is designed to run by intention: right on the edge of a precipice, where the balance ensures the wellbeing of the few at the cost of many.

 

[Vsdoc]

It might happen, but certainly not likely, at least for a few decades yet. These present troubles will settle down, yet again, in a manner entirely in keeping with the way Pakistan is designed to run by intention: right on the edge of a precipice, where the balance ensures the wellbeing of the few at the cost of many.

Bro the bottom line is who holds the firepower.

All revolutions that succeed, do so when the army either steps aside or joins forces with the protesters and revolutionaries.

As long as the army stands with the status quo, the population, even an armed one, like the US or Pakistan can do nothing.

They are quite simply outgunned. All romantic notions of revolution stop abruptly with a bullet to the head or gut or femoral artery.

For things to change in Pakistan, seedhi si baat hai.

Aapke fauj mein ek hisse ko bagawat karni padegi.

Kyunki fauj is the status quo. And it will never side with the population or stand aside.

 

[VCheng]

Bro the bottom line is who holds the firepower.

All revolutions that succeed, do so when the army either steps aside or joins forces with the protesters and revolutionaries.

As long as the army stands with the status quo, the population, even an armed one, like the US or Pakistan can do nothing.

They are quite simply outgunned. All romantic nations of revolution stop abruptly with a bullet to the head or gut or femoral artery.

For things to change in Pakistan, seedhi si baat hai.

Aapke fauj mein ek hisse ko bagawat karni padegi.

Kyunki fauj is the status quo. And it will never side with the population or stand aside.

Nothing is likely to change for at least several decades yet. Perhaps longer.

I still remember the burger in a video clip crying "agar aap dandein marein gey to hum inqilab kaisey layein gey?". Welcome to the real world honeychile!

 

[Suresh Naresh]

July 23, 2020

Topic: Pakistan and India Must Unite

My Post:

" It is inevitable.

I foresee an attempt by China to colonise and occupy Pakistan.

Misbehave with their public.

A Jallianwallabagh type incident.

And the Indian army streaming in. Willing to fight and move back out when the time came. If the Pakistanis wished. "

I remember that post very well.

But that post is very different from your claim. The difference between your claim and your that post (on original PDF) is explained below:

That post on original PDF meant that there would be problems between Pakistani public and China/Chinese.

Your claim is that you had predicted problems between Pakistani public and Pakistani army.

Thus your claim and your that post on original PDF are very different.

@RayKalm

 

[Lulldapull]

Bro the bottom line is who holds the firepower.

All revolutions that succeed, do so when the army either steps aside or joins forces with the protesters and revolutionaries.

As long as the army stands with the status quo, the population, even an armed one, like the US or Pakistan can do nothing.

They are quite simply outgunned. All romantic notions of revolution stop abruptly with a bullet to the head or gut or femoral artery.

For things to change in Pakistan, seedhi si baat hai.

Aapke fauj mein ek hisse ko bagawat karni padegi.

Kyunki fauj is the status quo. And it will never side with the population or stand aside.

Bhai in order to bring about a revolution yous need to be a nation first. This subcontinent cannot be classified as a nation by any stretch of the imagination.

French brought about a revolution and so did the iranis because their societies are so united. Here we got Punjabi Sindhi Pashto and a handful of balochi…….and in India it’s a 1000 times worse. Nothing in common.

 

[Vsdoc]

I remember that post very well.

But that post is very different from your claim. The difference between your claim and your that post (on original PDF) is explained below:

That post on original PDF meant that there would be problems between Pakistani public and China/Chinese.

Your claim is that you had predicted problems between Pakistani public and Pakistani army.

Thus your claim and your that post on original PDF are very different.

@RayKalm

Yes. My apologies for not chewing the food and regurgitating it into you mouth while you let your gut do the rest and crap it out.

Mea culpa.

 

[Vsdoc]

Bhai in order to bring about a revolution yous need to be a nation first. This subcontinent cannot be classified as a nation by any stretch of the imagination.

French brought about a revolution and so did the iranis because their societies are so united. Here we got Punjabi Sindhi Pashto and a handful of balochi…….and in India it’s a 1000 times worse. Nothing in common.

Bhai I already alluded to the failure to develop a national identity.

But that failure is yours. And yours alone. We share none if it.

I do not believe only ethnicity makes a nation.

I believe any people who identify as one, with a single common future, based on a shared history, including mistakes of the past, and buying into a theme of being one people, under one flag, one name, make a nation.

So please do not include India.

We are a miracle. And that miracle is recognised by the world.

We make the EU look like kindergarten .

 

[Dogun18]

 

[Dogun18]

 

[Dogun18]

@ThunderCat Your thoughts?

 

[ThunderCat]

@ThunderCat Your thoughts?

The journalist arrest? Not a good idea. You just create more saints and support. Dispersing crowds is one thing as long as they're allowed to protest.

But these arrests are a bad idea.

 

[Guru Dutt]

Bro the bottom line is who holds the firepower.

All revolutions that succeed, do so when the army either steps aside or joins forces with the protesters and revolutionaries.

As long as the army stands with the status quo, the population, even an armed one, like the US or Pakistan can do nothing.

They are quite simply outgunned. All romantic notions of revolution stop abruptly with a bullet to the head or gut or femoral artery.

For things to change in Pakistan, seedhi si baat hai.

Aapke fauj mein ek hisse ko bagawat karni padegi.

Kyunki fauj is the status quo. And it will never side with the population or stand aside.

Pakistan was made not for AWAAM but for British Interests in the SUB CONTINENT and MUSLIM ASHRAFIYA Feudal and miltarry elite who had inter related with marriages and had there children in Milatrry civil and FAUJ , Jeudicarry and Police services while had a considrable hold on supply of raw material and factories making uniforms , ammunation and small arms for british army and other empirial projects

same people were promised for to be accomudated with high ranking jobs in new Pakistan for which they used Muslim AWAAM against and created that false nerrative against

1. EVIL & MUSHRIK HINDU
2. HINDU & MUSLIM are very different and cannot live together
3. nation should be divided on basis of HINDU & MUSLIM
4. on 15 August 1946 DIRECT CTION DAY was organised to start a massecrre of hindus in calcutta to provoke asimillar masscrre of muslims to get Pakistan

Direct Action Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Having said that same game was applied on Jinnah once the DEEP STATE got pakistan and after Jinnah was gone his sister was too tortoured to death by same Pak Fauj and they kept doing what they were always trained to do ... BLUNDER PLUNDER & SURRENDER ... koi shakk

 

[Dogun18]