[🇧🇩] India Out Campaign in Bangladesh

[Old School]

Yes @Old School bhai, it's distracting Anti Hasina movement which I'd true bhai! But how it is helping BJP? Please elaborate so that others also can have some knowledge about it ( if they want to learn of course) !

It is not a trivial question. BJP's political capital is defending Hindutva Bharat. The bigger the threat to Bharat, the better its claim to be the defender of India is justified. When anti-Indian activities increase in India's neighborhood, BJP's popularity increases. When it's quiet, the BJP ensures there is something to stir up the unrest. It's especially true during election years. More anti-India activities in the neighborhood mean more votes for BJP. If you see, the BNP is not even hurting or targeting the big businesses that are allies of the BJP, like the ADANI or TATA group. BNP targets smaller groups producing toothpaste, hair oils, etc., but enough to get anti-India publicity.
Finally, this campaign is not against the Hasina regime, and the Hasina regime pays a huge amount of money to ADANI groups to keep BJP in line while maintaining a powerful China connection. So, it will also help Hasina to show the Chinese that she is not stopping this anti-India campaign but allowing it to continue. Do you think you can still openly make "Boycott India" videos in Dhaka if Hasina's intel agencies and Police / RAB want to stop it? This campaign benefits Hasina, too.

 

[Vikings]

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It is not a trivial question. BJP's political capital is defending Hindutva Bharat. The bigger the threat to Bharat, the better its claim to be the defender of India is justified. When anti-Indian activities increase in India's neighborhood, BJP's popularity increases. When it's quiet, the BJP ensures there is something to stir up the unrest. It's especially true during election years. More anti-India activities in the neighborhood mean more votes for BJP. If you see, the BNP is not even hurting or targeting the big businesses that are allies of the BJP, like the ADANI or TATA group. BNP targets smaller groups producing toothpaste, hair oils, etc., but enough to get anti-India publicity.
Finally, this campaign is not against the Hasina regime, and the Hasina regime pays a huge amount of money to ADANI groups to keep BJP in line while maintaining a powerful China connection. So, it will also help Hasina to show the Chinese that she is not stopping this anti-India campaign but allowing it to continue. Do you think you can still openly make "Boycott India" videos in Dhaka if Hasina's intel agencies and Police / RAB want to stop it? This campaign benefits Hasina, too.

It looks world and regional politics is much more complicated than common folks can ever imagine! What a nice way to appease both China and India together! Only if BNP ( under zia family) understood that voters are nothing but puppets, they ( BNP) wouldn't have made wrong decisions based on their voter base! The result is , I think they ( or maybe just Zia family) are forever kicked out from politics!

It's clear that Khaleda zia was never a real politician! She should have understood that it's not the voters, but deep state of Bangladesh allowed her to become prime minister 3 times!

So where democracy actually stands in these countries ; specially in South Asia? From a political analyst Gautam das ( Bangladeshi) I heard ( from his talk show , he isn't very famous though among common Bangladeshi folks) that 69 and 90 were both plotted!

However @Old School bhai , I think India also does have a deep state? What say you?

 

[Old School]

However @Old School bhai , I think India also does have a deep state? What say you?

I know Gautam Das, but he misses the crucial details. He works with the Chinese, though. Old KGB files revealed that the KGB funded both Mujib and Bhutto with Soviet oil money during the 1970 election. Major Dalim described in detail how his "Sena Parishad" group made Khaleda Zia win the 1991 election.
Deep states have existed in every state since ancient times. They are a nexus between the oligarchs and the civil-military bureaucracy. Textbooks don’t discuss this aspect of the state because the deep state controls what goes into them. The same goes for the media.
Indian biggest businesses, such as Adani, Tata, Ambani, etc., have long working relationships with their bureaucracy. This nexus is more powerful than any political party. Naive people mistakenly believe that poor and ordinary people elect the government.

 

[Vikings]

I know Gautam Das, but he misses the crucial details. He works with the Chinese, though. Old KGB files revealed that the KGB funded both Mujib and Bhutto with Soviet oil money during the 1970 election. Major Dalim described in detail how his "Sena Parishad" group made Khaleda Zia win the 1991 election.

Yes understood! Thanks for the information!

Deep states have existed in every state since ancient times. They are a nexus between the oligarchs and the civil-military bureaucracy. Textbooks don’t discuss this aspect of the state because the deep state controls what goes into them. The same goes for the media.
Indian biggest businesses, such as Adani, Tata, Ambani, etc., have long working relationships with their bureaucracy. This nexus is more powerful than any political party. Naive people mistakenly believe that poor and ordinary people elect the government.

Since deep state existed from ancient times , so I think India deep state wants BJP to stay in power for longer period of times? Could it be the reason that Pinaki and BNP is triggering Indian people by this boycott drama in Bangladesh to agitate Indian people for purpose? So that BJP win again because they need to defend Bharat?

If that's the case , then I'm not sure what's waiting in future for neighbours of India!

Although they aren't nearly as powerful ( militarily ) as they pretend, but they have deep pockets and lots of oligarchs who are listed among world's top billionaires!

However I think China want stability, hence Bangladesh will not meet the fate of sikkim or Hyderabad! What say you @Old School bhai?

Honestly speaking sometimes my rational mind doesn't work and I fear that India may try to devour Bangladesh; at least a part of Bangladesh, if not fully!

I think their target is Rangpur division! Because it will strengthen their chicken neck!

 

[Old School]

Yes understood! Thanks for the information!



Since deep state existed from ancient times , so I think India deep state wants BJP to stay in power for longer period of times? Could it be the reason that Pinaki and BNP is triggering Indian people by this boycott drama in Bangladesh to agitate Indian people for purpose? So that BJP win again because they need to defend Bharat?

If that's the case , then I'm not sure what's waiting in future for neighbours of India!

Although they aren't nearly as powerful ( militarily ) as they pretend, but they have deep pockets and lots of oligarchs who are listed among world's top billionaires!

However I think China want stability, hence Bangladesh will not meet the fate of sikkim or Hyderabad! What say you @Old School bhai?

Honestly speaking sometimes my rational mind doesn't work and I fear that India may try to devour Bangladesh; at least a part of Bangladesh, if not fully!

I think their target is Rangpur division! Because it will strengthen their chicken neck!

No country wants to burden an additional 180 million people by annexing Bangladesh if they can squeeze out the benefits some other way. Bengalis have nothing to worry about suffering the fate of Sikim or Hyderabad, which were not the same things. India is already a very large country anyway.

Chicken Neck has no military significance because there is no physical wall there saying the Indian army can not enter nearby Bangladesh to defend their territory. I am sure that Indians will manage to get military transit to that area over Bangladesh by mutual agreement. Otherwise, they will use the transit without permission anyway. People who talk about this so-called "Chicken Neck" did not attend a good military college. China and India are both Nuclear power and they are unlikely to go to war. India is a big Chinese market too.

However, Pakistan is another story. It is the birthplace of Hinduism and the Indus civilization, and therefore, Indians have a different approach to Pakistan. We are also the gateway to the Middle East and Central Asia since we have cut off The Wakhan Corridor bordering Gilgit-Baltistan from Indian-occupied Kashmir. Indians are upset about this huge strategic loss. There are other ideological issues, too. Hence, we need a powerful deterrent strategy towards Indian expansionism as far as Pakistan is concerned.

 

[Azad Kashmir]

No country wants to burden an additional 180 million people by annexing Bangladesh if they can squeeze out the benefits some other way. Bengalis have nothing to worry about suffering the fate of Sikim or Hyderabad, which were not the same things. India is already a very large country anyway.

Chicken Neck has no military significance because there is no physical wall there saying the Indian army can not enter nearby Bangladesh to defend their territory. I am sure that Indians will manage to get military transit to that area over Bangladesh by mutual agreement. Otherwise, they will use the transit without permission anyway. People who talk about this so-called "Chicken Neck" did not attend a good military college. China and India are both Nuclear power and they are unlikely to go to war. India is a big Chinese market too.

However, Pakistan is another story. It is the birthplace of Hinduism and the Indus civilization, and therefore, Indians have a different approach to Pakistan. We are also the gateway to the Middle East and Central Asia since we have cut off The Wakhan Corridor bordering Gilgit-Baltistan from Indian-occupied Kashmir. Indians are upset about this huge strategic loss. There are other ideological issues, too. Hence, we need a powerful deterrent strategy towards Indian expansionism as far as Pakistan is concerned.

thats why pakistan needs mandatory military service and mandatory labor service they get free lunch and taxi.
you will have hordes of indian pajeets making their way into pakistan border crossing like zombies scene from movies, therefore automatic machine gun like gatling gun is needed.

 

[Old School]

thats why pakistan needs mandatory military service and mandatory labor service they get free lunch and taxi.
you will have hordes of indian pajeets making their way into pakistan border crossing like zombies scene from movies, therefore automatic machine gun like gatling gun is needed.

The government won't make the military service mandatory. If we ever have a revolution, then may be.

 

[Azad Kashmir]

The government won't make the military service mandatory. If we ever have a revolution, then may be.

then government and military shall fight on the front and that too to the death while rest of us eat kebabs and watch.

 

[Old School]

then government and military shall fight on the front and that too to the death while rest of us eat kebabs and watch.

Most nations in the world do not have conscription or mandatory military service. We have a big pool of military-eligible age population, just like India, the US, and the UK. When the time comes, the government has many options to fill the military ranks. Nothing to worry. It is worrisome for nations with small populations, and they do have compulsory military service.

 

[Saif]

'That Coca-Cola ad' only proves the power of boycott

A global brand trying to tell us that we are immature or ignorant for feeling this way is not acceptable.

www.thedailystar.net

'That Coca-Cola ad' only proves the power of boycott

Visual: Fatima Jahan Ena

A Coca-Cola Bangladesh ad was launched on June 9, before being hidden from their YouTube channel after severe backlash from the audience on social media, after which it was made public again. Meanwhile, the lead actor featured in the ad, who also directed it, had to issue a statement on social media to defend his stance as a staunch supporter of "humanity" and clarify that his involvement was a strictly "professional" engagement. There have been many criticisms and debates regarding the ad being a PR disaster and the overall effectiveness of the Boycott, Divest and Sanction (BDS) movement globally and in Bangladesh. But why did Coca-Cola feel the need to launch an ad clarifying its stance in the first place?

The BDS movement has caught on in many countries across the world to hold brands accountable for their affiliations with Israel and their complicity in Israel's genocide of Palestinians. Inspired by the South African anti-apartheid movement, the BDS movement was launched by 170 Palestinian unions, refugee networks, women's organisations, professional associations, popular resistance committees and other Palestinian civil society bodies in 2005, as a form of non-violent pressure on Israel to end their illegal occupation of Palestine.

The movement recently caught on again in the aftermath of October 7. Soon, pro-Palestine groups in Bangladesh also spontaneously participated in the boycott movement as best as they could. The effectiveness of the boycott movement in Bangladesh was questioned by many, but the fact that Coca-Cola found it necessary to launch an ad addressing this only goes to show that it has worked.

The overall rhetoric of the ad also demands some scrutiny. It begins with a shopkeeper asking one of his regular customers if he wants a Coca-Cola, to which he replies that he has stopped drinking the beverage because it comes from "that country".

The shopkeeper then goes on a quest to identify the source of the information, which happens to be an unreliable Facebook page. He explains how Coca-Cola has been in the business for 138 years in 190 countries, including Turkey and Spain. A nice spin, considering Turkey is a Muslim-majority state and Spain is one of the four latest European countries to recognise the Palestinian state. However, what Coca-Cola conveniently forgot to mention is that Turkey is also the country whose parliament mandated Coca-Cola be no longer sold in the parliament campus, as part of a boycott of companies that "support Israel."

Then the bomb drops. "They also have factories in Palestine," says the shopkeeper, and convinces the entire neighbourhood to start drinking the beverage again. Everyone is happy, their conscience clear. But clear of what exactly?

Not once do they mention Israel or the ongoing genocide committed by the country on Palestine. They are right when they say that they are an American company with factories in Palestine. The National Beverage Company Coca-Cola (NBC) obtained a franchise licence in 1998 to manufacture, package, and distribute Coca-Cola products in the Palestinian market from a Ramallah factory. The business expanded to supposedly create jobs for many Palestinians and accelerate the state's economy. However, how does this information translate to the current context? What good is a factory if the entire area is bombed, with thousands dead and the rest being starved? Who's going to work there?

To read the rest of the news, please click on the link above.​

 

[Bilal9]

Kolkata economy in dire straits because of Bangladeshi tourist boycott, while Indian media is presenting this as a Visa-related issue.

Kolkata's Mini-Bangla Faces Economic Meltdown Amid Visa Restrictions For Bangladeshis | Kolkata News - Times of India

Kolkata's central area, popular with Bangladeshi tourists, sees a 70% drop in business as visa restrictions impact arrivals, leading to widespread losses for hotels and shops.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Bilal9]

 

[Krishna with Flute]

There was a similar boycott campaign in Pakistan. This boycott lasted for one week before Pakistan lifted the ban on Import of Indian medicine. Rest of the things Pakistan stared importing from UAE who imported it from India to sell to Pakistan after adding Margin. Qutar had experiment. There was a crisis in fixing of malfunction of computers and hacking of traffic systems and banking system. Qutar corrected its mistake. They released those 8 Navy officers who were sentenced to death.

 

[Dogun18]

@Bilal9 @Saif @Vikings

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Same way, Pakistan also started boycott India and tried to be befriend with India but that artificial friendship did not last for long and their effort of Roti Beti Rishta ended in Pakistani girls married to Chinese boys ended up in big trouble. Let us see how much BD's experiment successes.